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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/09 20:08:55 (permalink)
Because interest rates are too high already but inflation remains stubborn. Housing rates are exhorbitant, and the Fed is contemplating another .25% increase. Some economists and some big time investors, (companies that invest billions, not hundreds) are also calling for the Fed to begin lowering rates before the market collapses under a credit crunch. If oil went back to $40 a barrel and gas was $2.40 per gallon, the economy would really pick up and prices on everything else would start to drop, though those prices aren't ever going back to pre-pandemic prices, and we still have supply chain issues. It's not just the price of gas. Other than mortages and rent, energy is our biggest expense, then everything else we need to live is way up. They're sayin' we need another $900 per month to live at the same rate as early '22. Did all you guys get a $900 a month raise? Keep in mind folks have already drained their checking and savings and now they're livin' on credit cards, some of which have reached 25% interest rates. Folks are in arrears of the mortgage and credit card payments, and business bankruptcies are goin' up and are gonna get worse. It's a very bad time to be in debt.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/09 20:44:00 (permalink)
Article was from January 2020, when Trump was in office. He was always trying to get the Fed to lower. They were not 0%. He was telling them they were killing the economy for how high the rates were then.

$40 barrel oil was during the pandemic when people were told to stay home, all over the world. Last time before that was 2001. I think $60-$70 would be more realistic. If it weren’t for Russia, they very likely would be.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/10 08:26:20 (permalink)
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https://www.reuters.com/w...cks-israel-2023-10-09/

Something tells me the US will figure out a way to tie up these funds in International court or other way. Just as they were able to do so in the Korean banks in the first place. I would bet a case of beer that this agreement was filled with clauses that at the very least could be grounds to be tied up in courts for years. Our banks do it to us for $10k loans.

If these funds aren’t able to be tied up, then I agree with Nikki Haley. But I doubt Iran is able to use these even as described for years.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/10 10:24:43 (permalink)
I’m not sure this money is anything more than a right wing talking point. If Iran wants to direct resources to Hamas or other terrorist organizations, they are going to do it. Even if it means their people starve.

How about the fact that we have no ambassador to Israel right now because republicans in the senate are playing games with Biden’s nominees?

How about getting a relief bill through the House? What’s that gonna look like with the republican dysfunctional mess in that chamber?

It would be nice to have a functioning federal government in situations like this, but republicans in congress either don’t want to, or they are incapable of governing. All they want to do is obstruct and play games and shiit all over everything. And then they go on Fox News and point and say “look what democrats did”, and half of the voters in this country believe them.

And that’s not to mention the fact that this attack was surely motivated, at least in part, because Palestinians and Iran don’t like normalization of relations between Israel and the Arab world. The way trump propped up israel while simultaneously treating Iran like a kicked dog was not a very smart long term strategy. It was only going to be a matter of time before Iran lashed out.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/10 11:40:49 (permalink)
It won't matter if Iran gets the $6b immediately or not. When the administration took off the sanctions 2 1/2 years ago, they've been selling oil by the billions of barrrels, so they have plenty of cash.
Do you guys not understand that there has been a democratic movement in Iran for the past 8 ro 9 years, and the sanctions were strangling the Islamic leadership and keeping them in check against the people? Now they're free to quash the demonstrations with IRG violence and in some cases murder.
Another very interesting point is that the man in charge of the Iranian negotiations is being investigated by the FBI as being an agent of Iran, ( ie a double agent working against American interests for years), and that it goes back to the Obama administration. This is really serious.
Another thing about that situation in the Mid East is that it's being said that Egypt actually warned Israel that "something big" was being planned. I could understand that our intelligence services were in the dark about that, (giving that even in the Trump administration it was found that their service was less than stellar, and you do remember the Afghanistan debacle, don't you), but how could the Moussad not know? We already know that at least 9 Americans were killed in the Saturday attacks, and that some are still missing. Hostages? We'll be paying big time again for that.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/11 13:54:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby psu_fish 2023/10/12 08:06:49
Mitchell you are wasting your time there are a few brain washed libs on this forum that no matter what its repubs or maga's fault.There is one in particular that his head is so far up his Well you know what!!
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/11 15:24:31 (permalink)
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Mitchell you are wasting your time there are a few brain washed libs on this forum that no matter what its repubs or maga's fault.There is one in particular that his head is so far up his Well you know what!!


What do you think ICE NIT, how long is it gonna take ya boys to get a speaker up in this piece? Looks like they are going with Scalise.

Or maybe a better question is - What would you consider to be an “acceptable” or reasonable amount of time that a competent group of legislators should take to accomplish this task?

Would it be reasonable to expect this to be accomplished by the end of the day (Wednesday)?

The end of the day Thursday?

By the end of the week?

By the end of next week?

I’ll go on record and say I’ll be impressed if they get it done by the end of the day tomorrow. But if I was a betting man, I wouldn’t put money on it getting done until the weekend.

Anybody else wanna guess?
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/11 15:25:34 (permalink)
 
I know, IceNut. But sooner or later enough **** is gonna come out about this administration that it would be near impossible not to believe it. Only the super hardcore democrat ideologs could ignore it. At least that is my hope.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/11 16:04:21 (permalink)
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I know, IceNut. But sooner or later enough **** is gonna come out about this administration that it would be near impossible not to believe it. Only the super hardcore democrat ideologs could ignore it. At least that is my hope.


You mean like the MAGA cultists should be doing with tRump and all his indictments by now? jus ask'IN
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/11 16:58:56 (permalink)
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You mean like the MAGA cultists should be doing with tRump and all his indictments by now? jus ask'IN

Was thinking the same. But I guess all is excusable because Hunter Biden is a dirtbag.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/11 21:07:46 (permalink)
That's interesting info Mitch. Where'd you hear these things - I'd like to know more. 

I'm out of the loop on a lot of this stuff, only what I can catch on the Tube around dinner.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 08:09:23 (permalink)
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You mean like the MAGA cultists should be doing with tRump and all his indictments by now? jus ask'IN

Was thinking the same. But I guess all is excusable because Hunter Biden is a dirtbag.



 
Plenty have moved away from Trump. I have. I moved on after Nov 2020. Libs cant stop thinking, talking about the man. Yinz need the man to form an argument to deflect. RENT FREE. 
 
 
And PS, Hunter is a giant dirtbag and criminal. His father collected millions of dirty dollars too. Cope. 
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 08:45:06 (permalink)
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Plenty have moved away from Trump. I have. I moved on after Nov 2020. Libs cant stop thinking, talking about the man. Yinz need the man to form an argument to deflect. RENT FREE. 
 


Plenty? He’s almost a lock to be the nominee in 2024. He’s polling as high as he did in 2016, if not higher.

Nearly every elected Republican in the country has to kiss the ring or they end up like Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney.

Right wing media is still treating him like a god.

And even the republicans who might vote for somebody else in the primary will GLADLY vote for trump in the general.

The Republican Party has not “moved away” from trump. Not even close. Trump owns the party, just like he has for the last 8 years.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 09:05:35 (permalink)
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Plenty have moved away from Trump. I have. I moved on after Nov 2020. Libs cant stop thinking, talking about the man. Yinz need the man to form an argument to deflect. RENT FREE. 
 
 
And PS, Hunter is a giant dirtbag and criminal. His father collected millions of dirty dollars too. Cope. 

How is the guy polling well ahead of everyone else in the GOP if plenty have moved on? The guy should be page 10 newsworthy. Only reason he stays front page is the support of the brainwashed 35% of the country and another 10-12% that will end up voting for him.

Agree, giant dirtbag and criminal.

Hasn’t there been a Trump appointed special counsel investigating Hunter and ties to Joe for what, 4-5 years now? If there is proof, lock him up. Just like the other dirtbags Menendez, Santos and any others. Don’t matter the party. If they are serving themselves and not their country, they need weeded out.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 09:09:21 (permalink)
Gator, most of what I see comes across my phone on the MSN homepage. With a grain of salt, there are a few contributing sites that actually report news for the reality, many that report news as long as they can inflect an anti-Trump sentiment, and some far left sites that report with complete spin. You'll have to glean what you read, but depending on your ideology, you'll likely believe those that agree with you.

Whenever you want to know what the Democrats are up to, watch what they accuse the other side of doing.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 09:20:01 (permalink)
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Plenty have moved away from Trump. I have. I moved on after Nov 2020. Libs cant stop thinking, talking about the man. Yinz need the man to form an argument to deflect. RENT FREE. 
 


Plenty? He’s almost a lock to be the nominee in 2024. He’s polling as high as he did in 2016, if not higher.

Nearly every elected Republican in the country has to kiss the ring or they end up like Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney.

Right wing media is still treating him like a god.

And even the republicans who might vote for somebody else in the primary will GLADLY vote for trump in the general.

The Republican Party has not “moved away” from trump. Not even close. Trump owns the party, just like he has for the last 8 years.



Social Media is not reflective of real life. Trump might win the nomination, cause there is a lot of stupid people in this country, but he wont get same vote total as 2020. Some will simply stay home or vote 3rd party. I'll vote Trump over Biden if forced too, but prefer someone else to win the nomination, cause Joe is that bad. Joe would be a lock to lose to about anyone but Trump, he will trounce Trump sadly. 
 
We would be better off with a single day national primary election, much like a general in Nov, but hold it early May.   
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 09:40:56 (permalink)
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Social Media is not reflective of real life. Trump might win the nomination, cause there is a lot of stupid people in this country, but he wont get same vote total as 2020. Some will simply stay home or vote 3rd party. I'll vote Trump over Biden if forced too, but prefer someone else to win the nomination, cause Joe is that bad. Joe would be a lock to lose to about anyone but Trump, he will trounce Trump sadly. 
 
We would be better off with a single day national primary election, much like a general in Nov, but hold it early May.   

Not sure about the social media, I personally stay away from it. This site, if considered social media would be my most used.
Everything else is pretty much spot on how I see it. Swap the “I’d vote for Trump over Biden if forced to”. I find them both horrible candidates. I find Trump to be a horrible human being as well. Not that I find Joe to be a good person, but much higher on the morality board for me.

I’d support Haley or Scott over each. Not a fan of Haley’s view on blasting public school teachers though. But other than that, I could get behind her.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 10:05:05 (permalink)
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Plenty have moved away from Trump. I have. I moved on after Nov 2020. Libs cant stop thinking, talking about the man. Yinz need the man to form an argument to deflect. RENT FREE. 
 


Plenty? He’s almost a lock to be the nominee in 2024. He’s polling as high as he did in 2016, if not higher.

Nearly every elected Republican in the country has to kiss the ring or they end up like Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney.

Right wing media is still treating him like a god.

And even the republicans who might vote for somebody else in the primary will GLADLY vote for trump in the general.

The Republican Party has not “moved away” from trump. Not even close. Trump owns the party, just like he has for the last 8 years.


💯🎯@MyWar... jus say'IN
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 12:31:00 (permalink)
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It won't matter if Iran gets the $6b immediately or not. When the administration took off the sanctions 2 1/2 years ago, they've been selling oil by the billions of barrrels, so they have plenty of cash.
 


I wouldn't say that it's a windfall by any means based on the historical numbers for oil export sales. 
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IRNNXGOCMBD
 
Also...
https://www.washingtonpos...an-oil-fund-us-israel/
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 15:28:30 (permalink)
I figured this would be the case with the Iran funds. Some sort of way to legally tie it up.


https://www.cbsnews.com/n...-iranian-oil-revenues/
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/12 22:26:02 (permalink)
Aaaaaaand Scalise taps out. And seriously who can blame him?

So would it be more hilarious if we end up with (1) McCarthy again? Or (2) Hakeem Jeffries? I say both outcomes are equally hilarious but I am just an indoctrinated brain dead liberal so what do I know about comedy.

In all seriousness though… they don’t have to be an elected member of congress so maybe somebody like Kid Rock or Ted Nugent? Kevin Sorbo? Elon Musk? How about OJ Simpson? I think Trump would totally support any one of these guys.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/13 01:47:59 (permalink)
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Gator, most of what I see comes across my phone on the MSN homepage. With a grain of salt, there are a few contributing sites that actually report news for the reality, many that report news as long as they can inflect an anti-Trump sentiment, and some far left sites that report with complete spin. You'll have to glean what you read, but depending on your ideology, you'll likely believe those that agree with you.


Ah thanks. 

I always try to get some news I don't agree with. Echo chambers are an awful thing, especially now. 

Also, you guys still engage with PSU? Remember when he went after a posters' teenager daughter here because he was upset about politics? Shameful.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/13 21:07:29 (permalink)
And Jim Jordan steps up to the plate.

Seriously this guy doesn’t have a chance. Right? He’s way too nutty for the moderate republicans.

And even if he somehow manages to get the votes he would be a god awful speaker. He’s an attack dog, not a speaker of the house.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/13 21:37:06 (permalink)
Do you mean Wrestling Coach/ sexual assault enabler Jim Jordan? He'd make a great speaker🙄.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/13 22:30:50 (permalink)
ALLEGED sexual abuse enabler Jim Jordan

ALLEGED
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/15 08:57:31 (permalink)
JoePa???
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/16 08:38:30 (permalink)
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Gator, most of what I see comes across my phone on the MSN homepage. With a grain of salt, there are a few contributing sites that actually report news for the reality, many that report news as long as they can inflect an anti-Trump sentiment, and some far left sites that report with complete spin. You'll have to glean what you read, but depending on your ideology, you'll likely believe those that agree with you.


Ah thanks. 

I always try to get some news I don't agree with. Echo chambers are an awful thing, especially now. 

Also, you guys still engage with PSU? Remember when he went after a posters' teenager daughter here because he was upset about politics? Shameful.



I am glad you are finally admitting that this forum has turned into an msnbc, CNN talking point....bastion of socialism.  The echoes do ring loudly in here.  I am sure most of you probably support HAMAS too which wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/16 09:11:47 (permalink)
I call it LIBBY Lane same for or five dimwits over and over and yes I'd bet they all support Hamas
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Re: Trump 2024 2023/10/16 10:30:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby fishin coyote 2023/10/16 13:12:40
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same for or five dimwits over and over

Thanks for proving your own point…
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