joebaker79
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 16:03:53
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ORIGINAL: Cold Agreed. I particularly like it when I find a product that provides a level of quality or benefit out-of-proportion to its cost. Craft store tying supplies and the like. Two things that really helped me this past year were knot-tying aids. When I started to tie and use perfection loops in my setup, I was having trouble passing the one loop through the other. A 98 cent knitting pick was an easy way to reach through the loop, hook the other loop, and pull it back through. I've since improved to the point that I dont need to carry it with me anymore, though. Another aid I still use is to help tie nail knots. I just keep a piece of heavy line, with a loop tied in the end of it in a vest pocket. I wrap my nail knot wraps around the loop, keeping the end of it out past the wraps, then pass the tag through the loop and pull the loop out from under the wraps, carrying my tag end with it. This method results in smaller wraps than the tool I tried, making it easier for me to tighten down. It's also more or less free. You're into some serious tying. I am only a jig tyer. Much easier. Much quicker to create new stuff. I do float egg patterns and san juan worms (try both 8 inches from eachother, dynomite) but thats hardly tying. I do go through a lot of size 14 bead head pt nymphs....too small for me to bother. I'm only using fly patterns when I've jigged my arm off for 4 hours. Or in quicker water where I can't jig effectively. Although floating jigs in quick water has been a new presentation for me the last few years. 1/16 oz jigs floated in heavy flow with a lot of flash and color. I'm convinced our steelhead will go after anything that can fit in their mouths that is drifted properly or worked in a triggering action (jigs, flatfish, spoons at the mouths). I remember the first few years when I would only fish large holes with tons of fish. If I saw 1-2 fish by themselves I never could get them to even look so I didn't bother. Now 1-2 fish by themselves are a target, and I'm often catching 1 of them before I move on. It's the calculations of every situation, every fish, that keeps me coming back. Man made, overstocked, small streams....the complaints of native chasing purist flyrodders never stop. For me it's just too much fun to think of the downsides or how it's too easy to be real steelhead fishing. 1-2 fish days on the West Coast? You can have them. I'll take Erie and not apologize for it. Where else 2 hours away can I catch 40 fish on a balls cold December day, 20-30"?
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BIGSLICK
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 16:04:02
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ORIGINAL: pxatim what a **** lol..........
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 16:54:08
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ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK ORIGINAL: pxatim I call BS... unless you were there to see which way it flopped on the ground This is true, the curling of the tail and the way that it flops are vital peices of information to identify the ever elusive bowfinbrown trout..... I bet if we drop it on paul's hillbilly neighbors camper, it will curl left and if we drop it on Nuke's picnic table it will curl right. And don't forget the Redneck War games or whatever they were called that had ppl in Elk around 10 pm with flashlights...i think they were trying to shine the fish!!
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 17:20:33
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ORIGINAL: carcus1211 ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK ORIGINAL: pxatim I call BS... unless you were there to see which way it flopped on the ground This is true, the curling of the tail and the way that it flops are vital peices of information to identify the ever elusive bowfinbrown trout..... I bet if we drop it on paul's hillbilly neighbors camper, it will curl left and if we drop it on Nuke's picnic table it will curl right. And don't forget the Redneck War games or whatever they were called that had ppl in Elk around 10 pm with flashlights...i think they were trying to shine the fish!! Shhhhh if you talk about the hillbillies they will come...
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 18:54:26
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ORIGINAL: Split Shot I never heard of a "fricken" brown. Do they come into the creeks earlier than the regular browns?ORIGINAL: clearwater fricken browns are in full tilt too got this today???? come on ppl give it till at least the end of setember they are the ones they put in this yeah the grow fricken fast and return to the streams fricken quick got this one to day at the nut at man hole gotta love the free hand lotion
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 21:16:02
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Okay you doubters.... check out the link... I am #3 http://www.fish.state.pa.us/bigfish.htm TROUT, STEELHEAD Angler Hometown Water Date Bait Weight Length (inches) Girth (inches) William C. Reay Herminie Elk 10/18 Jig 14 lb. 8 oz. 32 19 Eric C. Rupert Cheswick Elk Creek 11/22 Suckerspawn 14 lb. 6 oz. 32.50 19.50 Nathan Lechene Bolivar 20 Mile Creek 10/16 Egg Sac 14 lb. 3 oz. 35 18.75 John Pulice Bridgeport, WV Walnut Creek 12/25 Minnow 14 lb. 2 oz. 33 18.25 William Rethi Marion Center Walnut Creek 11/15 Minnow 13 lb. 13 oz. 33 19 And honest to God, that is not a photo shopped pic. That is the setup I have used for the last 3 years. I bought a nice baitcaster in March that I used up there and it is definately better than the zebco, but only because the drag is light years better. It doesnt help that the zebco has hundereds of hours on it and dozens of dunkings without any oil or grease. lol. And the fish scale is accurate. I was gonna release my big fish till I took a closer look at the scale it showed a weight just above 14 pounds. haha, it is only a 15 pound scale, so maybe I can top it out this year!!! I let a 13+ pounder go in late march... word the thick souled sistas - I wanna get witcha
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pxatim
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 21:20:17
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you used Egg Sac to catch that fish???
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kingnuke32
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 21:27:32
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Whos doubting you? Nice fish for an Erie trib, but dont hurt yourself patting your back that you caught it on a snoopy rod. A lot of people never get a 14# out of Erie. Congrats. i kOt A tEn pONder wIf a stEEk in wulNutz eaZeE dUuD
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 21:30:40
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i still call BS... i want to see a shot with both the fish and weight better luck this year
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hiclassHilbilly
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/28 21:42:11
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ORIGINAL: KJH807 i still call BS... i want to see a shot with both the fish and weight better luck this year hmmm I am not sure how to make that happen.... That would require some photoshopping, which would, in turn, cast suspicion on my entire claim and have the exact reverse effect of what i desire. You are crafty one there KJH... nice try, but you gotta get atleast half a beer into me before I lose my ability to think straight. haha
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Noplacelikehome
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 06:56:44
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Hillbilly, I have guys telling me that I lie all the time about size of fish, numbers of fish, I could care less. I fish for fun. NOT to brag. I give fishing reports only because other guys and girls ASK me to. I am always glad to help out. I never carry a camera because I know I would drop it in the water or lose it. Don't wate your time on ignorant people. I will tell you one example. I was slaying walleye, bass and a few musky this winter in a river.(I caught MANY limits, for months) I took one of my doubting co-workers along one evening. He didn't do to good. I asked him to help me land a 26 inch walleye(on 4 lb test). I obviously proved that I was telling the truth. Now the guy won't even talk to me! HIS loss not mine. Good Luck! Nice Steely! KJH is only expressing his opionion, I don't think he's that bad of a guy.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 15:14:07
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ORIGINAL: Noplacelikehome Hillbilly, I have guys telling me that I lie all the time about size of fish, numbers of fish, I could care less. I fish for fun. NOT to brag. I give fishing reports only because other guys and girls ASK me to. I am always glad to help out. I never carry a camera because I know I would drop it in the water or lose it. Don't wate your time on ignorant people. I will tell you one example. I was slaying walleye, bass and a few musky this winter in a river.(I caught MANY limits, for months) I took one of my doubting co-workers along one evening. He didn't do to good. I asked him to help me land a 26 inch walleye(on 4 lb test). I obviously proved that I was telling the truth. Now the guy won't even talk to me! HIS loss not mine.  Good Luck! Nice Steely!     KJH is only expressing his opionion, I don't think he's that bad of a guy. lYaR straYt mUnChR
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 17:00:27
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South Ripley but that will be a while.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 17:07:31
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ORIGINAL: hiclassHilbilly You are crafty one there KJH... nice try, but you gotta get atleast half a beer into me before I lose my ability to think straight. haha An erie trip for me entails a fifth of southern comfort... first drink around 6 am.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 17:38:55
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ORIGINAL: pxatim you used Egg Sac to catch that fish??? wow did you get that fricken brown out of the tribs this week heard the browns are runing like crazy now..... i even got a king the other day you see my pic.....
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 18:08:30
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 19:08:44
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[image] [/image] this was the hot fly today
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 19:59:28
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Some should probably check their data... When was the state record brown in PA caught and where? I am sure that a few fish are visiting the creeks at night.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 20:17:09
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ORIGINAL: griffon Some should probably check their data... When was the state record brown in PA caught and where? I am sure that a few fish are visiting the creeks at night. July 4th, 2000. Caught in Lake Erie, Casting from the end of the channel into the Lake from The Walnut Creek Access Area....
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 21:12:30
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Slick, some would tell you that fish was caught up in the channel. You live there so you probably have better knowledge than I, as I can only live vicariously through the words of others sometimes. Regardless, still no reason to believe that fish couldn't be pushing up in a bit at night, particularly with the cooler than normal temps.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 21:17:15
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I wouldn't doubt that there is some there at night. lol, if someone would have told me in May that I would be able to go out in late July and catch walleye's in less than 25 foot of water, I would have laughed....Hard....But I did it just the other night. Water temp is cool enough that I wouldn't doubt that there is some lurking around at night....
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 22:30:50
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It's really hard to believe that it's only the end JULY !! and this thread on slimer's has reached 3 pages !!!
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 22:49:23
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ORIGINAL: CRANKMASTER It's really hard to believe that it's only the end JULY !! and this thread on slimer's has reached 3 pages !!! With over 2000 hits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 22:58:44
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lol I've been drinking...
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/29 23:34:05
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ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK July 4th, 2000. Caught in Lake Erie, Casting from the end of the channel into the Lake from The Walnut Creek Access Area.... Really?? I though in Poor Richards it said Stop Sign Hole. Oh well.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/30 08:27:15
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ORIGINAL: joebaker79 Old one is still in use, put so many fish on it guides needed to be resealed a bit. Need help with that let me know, be happy to do it for you.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/30 10:45:51
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ORIGINAL: flyfishermanPA ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK July 4th, 2000. Caught in Lake Erie, Casting from the end of the channel into the Lake from The Walnut Creek Access Area.... Really?? I though in Poor Richards it said Stop Sign Hole. Oh well. From the PF&BC Website of State Record Fish... A brown trout weighing nearly 20 lbs has been named as the new state record for the species by the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission. The 19 lb., 10 oz. trout was landed July 4th from Walnut Creek by Fazle Buljubasic of Erie. Buljubasic was using a minnow while casting from the shoreline wall at the Commission’s Walnut Creek Access when the big fish hit. It took him about 20 minutes to land the fish, which measured 32 1/4 inches long with a 22-inch girth. The new record fish easily surpasses the former mark for brown trout. Leroy Patterson of Huntingdon had held the record since 1993 with a 17 lb. 14.5 oz. brown trout he caught in the Raystown Lake spillway. To be considered for state record certification, a fish must be caught using legal means, in season, from Pennsylvania waters open to the public without charge or fee. Fish taken from farm ponds, fee-fishing lakes, ponds or streams or in waters restricted to use by club members or their guests do not qualify. Potential record fish must exceed the established benchmark by at least one ounce, as weighed on a certified scale. The Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission is the only entity that can certify a new state record fish in the Commonwealth.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/30 10:46:20
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ha even for an old shakespeare intrepid? it's still usable but the bottom two guides are really pushing out of the seal. suppose they could be taken off and replaced with new ones? ORIGINAL: Loomis ORIGINAL: joebaker79 Old one is still in use, put so many fish on it guides needed to be resealed a bit. Need help with that let me know, be happy to do it for you.
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RE: How far up are the steelies?
2009/07/30 11:58:49
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