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2023/08/19 20:53:21 (permalink)

2023 NFL Season

Well it's upon us already. 

I'm going 11-6 for the Steelers. I think the browns will be the browns, and the rest of the division will be a dogfight. 

Super Bowl Prediction - Cin Vs. Philly with a Philly win.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/08/19 22:10:41 (permalink)
Stillers starters looked pretty good against Bills starters. Bills looked really sloppy, coaches have to be pretty outraged. Take away the sloppy play and I think Stillers are right with them.

I don’t know what other teams did in off season, but hard to go against KC. SB is theirs to lose. What the Stillers did in off season, on paper could contend, preseason is making it look possible.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/08/20 08:17:04 (permalink)
How about the Steelers back-up center. What's his name, Kendrick, I think. Former 3rd rounder who didn't play at all last year, looked bad against Tampa last week, and even worse against Buffalo. On shotgun plays, Rudolph was reachin' right, left, and over his head for the ball, and on one play, he snapped when neither Rudolph nor the running back were even ready. Maybe he just missed the snap count, but the ball sailed past Rudolph, Buffalo recovers on the 2 and one play later they score. That ain't the way to gain Tomlin's favor.

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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/08/20 22:49:15 (permalink)
They were talking about him at fullback last week. Would have been nice to see that. Most likely a bad draft pick (I called it on these boards back then, but what do I know). A long with many others. Third round, might as well give him a shot at FB for how much invested. But if not doing it in preseason, have him as guard depth and cut ties when it sounds best for cap/contract. Disclaimer, I have no idea what OL in college wil be good, they just needed to go OL way earlier than 3rd round with Green and almost karma that it is failing.

I hope things keep looking the why they point for the Stillers. If even half of what looks good pans out, we might be pointing some middle fingers at Kevin Colbert in years to come of what could have. Granted, he did not do horribly. But IMHO, he wasted the last few years of Ben’s career, not rebuilding the line with high end picks sooner. That would have them without Watt and Harris now though, so what do I know. On paper and early preseason returns, Khan is a flipping NFL guru... There is only one guru on this site, so I fully expect many of Khan’s decisions to not age as well as they have. But as of now, holy cow. If it keeps going and does it for another year or two, this team can be dominant. Obviously, reality will set in at some point. He can very well be a GM genius, but the majority of the others aren’t idiots.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/08/21 08:48:14 (permalink)
I'm just can't wait for another season of "Tomlinisms". 
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/08/24 19:57:42 (permalink)
Keeping it up…
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/10 11:48:59 (permalink)
Tough test to start the season! Not sure what to think. Stillers looked great in preseason, but preseason is like Presidential polls 14 months out from an election. SF is undeniably a top five team, arguably #1 after KC debacle. Top defense and dangerous weapons on O. Purdy is really their only question mark. Stillers have same question mark and a few others. Home field advantage is 3 points. Not sure if I can confidently say Stillers are within 3 points of SF. It might be close, but would be pleasantly surprised if Stillers pull it off.

KC should right their ship with Kelce back. But like most teams, once that QB is established and paid, less weapons, protection or top defensive players they can pay as well. It isn’t all that surprising that they have WRs that drop balls. One nice thing about the salary cap.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/10 16:35:42 (permalink)
THUD!!!
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/10 17:09:16 (permalink)
Yesterday watching Pitt on dvr, I kind of had the feeling Stillers game was going to be similar. I didn’t think Stillers were going to give their uniforms to Pitt. Seriously looked like a college team vs a pro team in first quarter. Watt played well, that was about it. Not sure if anyone else on that team won their battles. Heyward injury was the only reason I knew he was there. Defense has a ton of money in it and looked nothing like a top level crew. Offensive line overhaul looked like any compliment of Khan should be retracted. Pickett looked like beginning of year last year Pickett. No doubt 69ers are a contender, Stillers proved early to be a pretender. Long season, but that was about as bad as could be.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/10 17:53:35 (permalink)
Yeah, it was ugly. I was sucked in by all the hype for the past 10 days having read nearly everything written by the pundits, (including Steelers Nation) and was really startin' to believe, but I watched all the NFL shows starting from 9AM on, and found myself rather apprehensive just before game time. The Steelers 1st two possessions sealed the deal for me. Frisco was just too good and outplayed 'em for the entire game. Lucky it wasn't worse.

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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/10 19:50:36 (permalink)
49ers gonna make a run to the Super Bowl if they stay healthy.
But, How bout them Browns!
 
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/10 21:00:35 (permalink)
I'm glad we went to Morgantown today to see the oldest perform in the Wind Symphony. I only got to watch a few minutes at end when we took her to eat.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/10 21:17:49 (permalink)
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49ers gonna make a run to the Super Bowl if they stay healthy.
But, How bout them Browns!
 
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The Stillers game reminded me a lot of the Stillers/Browns playoff game two years ago. At least the first quarter/half.
Good to see the Bungles get crushed, not so good to see the Browns being the one to dominate them. Not looking good for the Stillers next week.
Giants are doing their best impression of the Stillers.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/11 11:14:28 (permalink)
Took the family to the PSU game on Saturday and met up with my brother up there.  Long day...drove up, halfway to stop and drop off the dog at the inlaws, then off to Happy Valley....watch them crush DE, visit in the parking lot for awhile, then pick the dog back up and back home by 830pm.  Was looking forward to relaxing in the recliner and maybe watching a close game between the Squealers and the Niners...midway through the second, told my son to make a tee time and we were on the course for a quick 9 at 3pm.  Turns out it was a GREAT choice!  Looks like that will be my Sundays from here on out, until the weather permits.  
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/11 15:26:06 (permalink)
Took Pickett 5 full years to "pop" at Pitt, Canada got fired after one season at LSU as OC, but Tomlin see something in both of them. NFL is offense heavy. Pickett might develop into a serviceable QB like Andy Dalton was, but they wont win a SB with him or Canada. 
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/11 16:12:23 (permalink)
Pickett is still too young to make that call, but most likely correct. He turned things around last season. I expect him to do the same this season. Will he be a Super Bowl winner, probably not, the vast majority of NFL QBs aren’t. Even the most highly touted guys coming out of college fair low odds. Many more Andy Dalton’s than Tom Brady’s. No one can accurately predict which will be which or everyone would have one. The knocks that some have on him (arm strength, long pass accuracy) was what he specialized in college. Look it up…. You can say it was Addison or other WRs, but he had one of the higher deep ball completion percentages. His accuracy yesterday was bad, but 67% completion percentage is not horrible. Garbage time helped in that. They were dominated in all aspects besides TJ Watt yesterday. Kenny didn’t help, but he wasn’t the O line, RBs, D line, secondary, special teams, or coaching. If he were put on the 49ers, he would look just fine. Stillers are far from 49ers.

Off season moves were aggressive and we are not used to that here. Aggressive doesn’t always work. The O line likely needs a few games to gel, possibly D line too. They likely would have been better off with who they had last season to start the season on O line. I do think this group will be better. Devin Bush was likely watching with a grin as it seemed like every replacement LB looked like they were imitating Bush…. Stillers likely going to do similar as last year. Make a late season run and miss out on the playoffs.

If so, they really need to put Tomlin on a hot seat by now. I thought the end of Ben’s career would have been a good time to move on and still agree. I was never a Tomlin hater, but if no playoffs this season, he should be playing for his job next. Canada, I am still scratching my head over how he is back this year.

If the next few games are even remotely close to this one, then obviously, changes will need to be made.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/11 16:17:42 (permalink)
Ben Johnson in Detroit is going to be a hot commodity in the off-season. He will be the next young gun OC to HC.
 
Steelers love loyalty with three coaches in 54 years, but you gotta have the goods on offense. 
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/11 17:03:06 (permalink)
I wonder if Khan will have a say?  He seemed to do great on paper with the offseason moves.  Paper seemed to be missing yesterday though...  But it was only one game against a team that I think everyone knew was better.  I don't think most thought it would be that bad though.  I can't see all phases of their team being that bad all season.  I would have to think that some of the offseason moves had to be as good as they seemed or at least close.  I don't recall anyone saying anything negative of the Seumalo pick up.  Most others had some sort of question mark.  I couldn't imagine they swung and missed on that many?  
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/11 18:32:59 (permalink)
OL was a B grade on pass protection, Pickett was just bad. Cam maybe going on IR is going to be a tuff one.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/11 19:06:00 (permalink)
I read that SF D line graded A+ and LBs an A. Not sure how OL would grade B, considering all they did was pass block. They ran like 10 times total and a few of those was Kenny running for his life. Beyond Watt, there wasn’t another Stiller that would have received more than a C from what I saw. Kenny probably D and would do same for OL.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/11 21:18:31 (permalink)
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/12 14:13:37 (permalink)
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I wonder if Khan will have a say?  He seemed to do great on paper with the offseason moves.  Paper seemed to be missing yesterday though...  But it was only one game against a team that I think everyone knew was better.  I don't think most thought it would be that bad though.  I can't see all phases of their team being that bad all season.  I would have to think that some of the offseason moves had to be as good as they seemed or at least close.  I don't recall anyone saying anything negative of the Seumalo pick up.  Most others had some sort of question mark.  I couldn't imagine they swung and missed on that many?  




 
Doubtful Khan would. Rooney's are super loyal to HC's. If anything, Canada will be gone after this season, and then maybe Tomlin's neck is on the line for 2024.  
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/13 12:46:47 (permalink)
I don't foresee Tomlin getting a pink slip as long as the Roony's are running the Steelers. 

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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/13 16:14:47 (permalink)
Look at the bright side of things We could be NY Jet fans…LOL

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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/13 22:03:29 (permalink)
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Look at the bright side of things We could be NY Jet fans…LOL

Might not be laughing at the end of the season. Jets will probably have a better record than the black & gold.

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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/19 08:16:28 (permalink)
At least the Stillers didn’t pay the ransom for Pickett that the Browns did for Watson. They both looked pretty awesome, for backups maybe? Matt Canada is easily the worst OC in the NFL and Steelers history. If I see another reverse or designed QB sneak that isn’t inches, I may break my TV. I am all about a QB taking off if there is a hole while dropping back to pass. If you can’t get a hole for the RBs? O line looked better this week against a really good Browns D line. But couldn’t open up a running lane. Pickett had a little time on about half of his drop backs, instead of pressured on just about every drop back against SF. Both games the defense made them one dimensional and always advantage defense, unless elite passing offense, which Pickens would be the only Stiller to fit that bill. Got to get Muth and Robinson more involved. Having games against two of the best d lines to start the season for a “new” O line was a bit of a challenge. Hopefully they show improvement. Raiders and Texans “projected” defensive rankings were low coming into the year. Hard to really know how they actually are this early in the season, but doubt they are as good as the Dawgs or Niners.

No doubt the Browns win that game with Chubb. Such a shame the NFL’s structure has RBs undervalued (in comparison). The position has to be one of the most injury prone, whether like this one that will likely end his season and possibly alter his HOF trajectory he was on, but most likely taking more high impact head shots than any other position.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/19 11:18:38 (permalink)
Might end Chubb's career.  Looks like the same injury he had at GA.  Not sure a knee can handle that twice and be fully functional again.  Coming from someone who has bad knees and has had surgeries, that did make me cringe and when I tried to search the replay and then saw his GA injury...double cringe.  Not for the faint of heart.  Wish him a speedy recovery but I have my doubts on him playing at a high level again.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/19 12:03:23 (permalink)
They only showed the replay once on the big screen lastnight. Not sure if you could see on the TV side, but that whole end of the stands, especially the end zone, went almost totally silent. As they carted him off, the crowd all gave him a standing ovation. You never want to see that happen to any player. It reminded me of the Willis McGahey injury. At 28 years old, hopefully Chubb can get back on the feild by next season. With it being the same knee he blew up in 2015 at Georgia, like Eyes said, it could be the end of a career that was cut very short.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/19 12:05:01 (permalink)
He is past the prime of his career, although playing at prime level (28 years old). Full rehab from something like this would be a year minimum to get in the shape he was and confidence on it. He has a contract through next season. I’d be shocked if he plays again. He will collect this year and next on IR regardless. No one is going to give him the money he wants at 30, unless he came back next season at the same level. I don’t see that happening. But what do I know. These guys are ultra competitive people that mostly look past their health for the chance to be considered one of the best ever. Hopefully he has enough of a resume to put him in consideration for HOF, but not sure he does.
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Re: 2023 NFL Season 2023/09/19 12:06:30 (permalink)
Oh ya, I know this is a NFL thread BUT...... Eat 💩 Pitt!!
Lets Gooooooo Mountain-eerssssss!!!!!
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