Republicans are sad face because Manchin double crossed McConnell on the budget reconciliation bill with all the climate stuff.

It’s probably the first time I can ever recall democrats playing hardball and beating McConnell at his own game. And it’s perhaps the first noble thing manchin has ever done in his life.

Of course republicans are gonna be all “but the democrats made us vote against veterans!!” But cmon, that’s gonna be a hard one to sell. They’ll have to eventually cave on this one.

ICE NUT
They got a watered down version of the build back Broke bill Whoopie .NowAfter all there isn;t a recession  the demorats will get off of his back. After all there isn't a recession,inflation is under control,interest rates are low,prices are great,the border is functioning just the way it should,the police are respected and doing fine now that crime is under control.The windmills will look great hope we all can get one for our yards!!   LOL LOL The dimwits want to dump their savior the one responsible for all the above mess and get one whose even dumber than sleepy Joe.LMFAO

Thought provoking, insightful analysis, as always. Not even Herschel Walker could’ve said that better.

What’s even weirder is that apparently this semiconductor bill (that republicans had to be tricked into voting for) actually has some pretty good ideas, *and it initially came from people like Pompeo and others in the Trump administration*.

As for the reconciliation package… you can call it “watered down BBB” if you want. It’s incremental nuts and bolts stuff that will actually move the country forward, albeit at a snails pace. Although sinema could still tank it.

It’s just too bad republicans are punishing veteran burn pit victims for McConnell’s naïveté.

Looks like the GOP understood how insanely stupid it was to vote down Veterans bills. Taking their ball and going home backfired, and the flipped SO HARD on that PACT Act. 
Good to see they "came to their senses" and passed it. 

Think about that you Vets on here. They voted down a bill designed to support our Military Veterans - for nothing but spite. Knowing it would help VETERANS - their childish spite was more important than helping. Incredible.

ICE NUT
Gator did you read the bill? It was loaded with unrelated pork 2/3 of the money went for unrelated pork NOT the veterans.If you actually believe those millionaires in congress from both parties actually care about veterans you are sadly mistaken.
  

Ice Nut is 100% correct.

MyWar

It’s downright disgraceful that republicans pulled this stunt and then tried to justify it with this weak, flawed reasoning. But I’m glad they finally got shamed into caving.

This crap happens all of the time by both sides. Doing whatever they can to disrupt the other side from any sort of win, instead of thinking to work together for a real win for us all. As soon as the GOP gets control again, the Dems will do the same. That is the disgraceful thing about this all.

This doesn’t even come close to that attention seeking clown Pelosi did this week. Asked by the White House and DOD to not do it, the real disgrace of this week, did it anyway. She needs to be pushed out. Her and Biden are just too old and stupid to be in any position of influence. There should be legislation that anyone over 65 needs to retire from politics. Should probably test anyone over 65 to be sane to vote. Why we end up with so many clowns to choose from.

Taiwan is becoming a hornets nest. One major problem is that the US is calling our relationship with Taiwan "strategic ambiguity". Therein lies the BS. How can you say that the US will defend the "nation" but still not call them our ally. As far as I'm concerned, there are two Chinas. The Communist Peoples Republic of China, and the free democratic Republic of China. The PRC thinks they own everything in the South China Sea. BTW, wasn't Taiwan formerly called Formosa? It's been many years since my grade school geography classes but I thought that was settled in '49 or so; after the war?
 

EMitch
but the 'Crats pulled the old last minute switcheroo that would have enabled them to use the money for anything they wanted.

That is not correct. Republicans are lying to you about this. See the link I posted above.

Moving the funds to mandatory spending means this money could be spent without going through appropriations, but that doesn’t mean it would get spent on something else other than veterans care.

The claim is that there now could be more future discretionary spending, which could be spent on other things. But that spending is absolutely not part of this bill.

Actually, I’ll add that Toomey, to his credit, did voice the same concerns about the mandatory spending language in the first bill back in June, and he voted against it.

Here is toomey giving a speech about it on the senate floor on June 23

https://www.toomey.senate...amendment-floor-speech

So the language was DEFINITELY in the first bill. And although I don’t buy his argument against the bill, he is at least being consistent.

But you can’t say the same for other 20 R senators that flipped their votes and suddenly had the same concerns as toomey.

Did they hire Yunguru to do the subtitles on that video?

Porktown

MyWar

Ok but when tho? Like do you have any specific examples of when democrats have opted to play politics instead of passing legislation that helps people?

the Dem party held the infrastructure bill as hostage to try to further their far left agenda. Look back a few years when GOP had more control. Trump was the biggest chit eater that has ever stepped foot in the Oval Office, but some of the policy passed under him was good for the vast majority of the country.

The progressive caucus (not the entire D party) did want support for climate legislation in exchange for support of the infrastructure bill. That is true. Progressives were also completely transparent and honest about their motivations from day one. Progressives never voted Y then changed their vote to N and made up some elaborate bullshiit story to cover their @sses. They said they wanted climate legislation all along because they thought they were gonna get screwed (and up until very recently it looked they would be proven correct).

Now you may not agree with their policy goals, but that’s not what we are talking about here. We are talking about conducting themselves with integrity. So I’m having a hard time seeing “same” with this example.

Also, isn’t this kind of how compromise in public policy is supposed to work? Like you negotiate terms that mutually beneficial to all parties? Republicans don’t even try to negotiate, they just obstruct and then lie about it.

What specific super awesome republican legislation did democrats deliberately and hypocritically sabotage under trump, and then lie about? Funding for the wall?

Also… Look at this inflation reduction budget bill. Bernie sanders tried to get some stuff in there, his amendment got voted down, but he was completely honest his intentions and supported the bill anyway. And it’s gonna pass the house without any further amendments because democrats know it has to get done.

Republicans on the other hand nixed the $35 cap on insulin. I guess you can add diabetics to the list of people that republicans don’t give a shiit about.

I’m not really seeing “both sides” here unless you mean manchin and sinema stubbornly acting like republicans, but that’s not really the same thing.

Mar-A-Lago residence raided.

pensfan1
FBI is looking for classified documents that were not supposed to leave the Whitehouse. My question is, why would tRump take them? He's never read anything in his life.

Obviously, he prefers old documents over Charmin for his wiping.

That’s it guys I’ve had it. This is the final straw. The woke mob communist DemonRats have finally gone too far.

I’m now a Republican. I’m gonna sell all my fishing gear and give the money to the Trump Legal Defense Fund.

They find alot more if they raided Hunter's or sleepy Joes's beach house but then again the same FBI that couldn't or wouldn't find Hillary's emails.