Ending doe season?

Deer are in the city not out in the rural areas they shood be.

No
 
And it has nothing to do with the deer wars.
 
Take a look around the country and see how many states have done away with seasons on animals in hopes of rebounding populations only to have the anti's come in when the season is re-introduced and quash them.
 
You only have to look one state east to New Jersey and their bear dilema to see how they work.
 
 
 
 
 

yea and where the deer populations are you cannot gain access to hunt them in the city/suburbs....lol
 
Ill be buyin my doe license and shredding them next year in the wmu's i hunt...

ORIGINAL: Carpet Bagger
Ill be buyin my doe license and shredding them next year in the wmu's i hunt...

 
I understand the logic behind this idea, but it is dangerous and will only cause more does to be killed in the future.  Here's how.  You buy a tag that will financially support the PA Game Mismanagement Commission, which is what they are all about, so no great affect there, but to tell them that folks are still interested in killing does because they buy the license.  Next, you don't kill a deer that they want you to kill, so next year they believe that more tags are necessary to kill a certain amount of does, so they up the amount of tags yet again, which means that someone that will actually try to kill a doe will get a tag this time and may actually see and kill a doe.
 
In all honesty, if you really want to send a message to the PA Game Mismanagement Commission, boycott them.  If every hunter who is dissatisfied (from what I have seen and heard this is a majority, not a minority) with the job they have done did this, they would be on their knees begging us to financially support them and then maybe they would finally listen.  The truth is that they are more influenced by the money they receive through the sale of licenses than they are by hunters who complain, but continue to fork out the money. 
 
As long as we continue to pay them to hunt we are sending the message that we are okay with what they are doing.  If a great number of hunters said through their one year lack of financial contribution that we are not okay with what is happening in our woods, things would change.
 
It will suck in the short term, but I am willing to give up hunting in Pennsylvania for a year to have things better than they are now.
 
The second phase of this plan is for us as hunters to not go to our hunting camps so we do not support the businesses in those areas.  The business owners will put up a fuss and this will cause changes too (to support the business owners we need to patronize them at non-hunting times to make up for this).  The PA Fish and Boat Commission has made several decisions based on this issue because the business owners squawked about lack of business due to lower than normal amounts of fishermen in the area due to "unfavorable" (in their eyes anyway) regulations on certain waters.  This included them stocking over strong populations of wild trout to get the meat fishers into the area.
 
As much as I hate it, it's all about money and we are in control of it.

make it so a hunter can only kill one buck and one doe a year. no more and have this statewide. if the hunter chooses to take a doe then let it be

Tear up all you want.  When the harvest is not there, more will be issued next year for those of us that are willing to do our part in deer management. 

Antlered harvest is managed by season length.  Antlerless by allocations, not season length.

No state agency will claim exact numbers on any game animal, period.  They are all estimates.

The way the PGC estimates deer harvest is statistically valid.  It is reliable data.

The PGC is moving towards less deer as a whole.  Much less in some areas, untill the habitat recovers.  Get used to it.  If you do not like it, or don't support it, do not buy a license period.  Go fishing.
 
Drive to where the deer are in better numbers.  I do not blame the PGC because there are no bears to hunt in Washington County.  I drive to where the habitat to support them is.  I used to drive 3 hours to hunt deer because few existed where I lived when I started hunting. 
 
Many expect and demand deer in thier back yards.  It is not reality these days.  It will get worse before it gets better so you might as well prepare for the long haul.
 
This year I saw fewer deer but noticed more browse, grapes and hard mast.  Saw a few grouse which were far and few between before. 
 
It is not only about the deer guys and girls.

Shutting seasons done is only fuel for the antis. 

if the hunting lisc. go up in cost i'll be one of the first to give up a year of hunting and go fishing instead. the price will only go up because of the lack of funds, like someone said, when it hurts the pgc in the pocket book they'll change there way of thinking and doe allocations. still want to hear how the antler restriction is so good towards the fact why is a 6 point not mature enough in one area to shoot at and mature in another? there is no factual data that says all 6 points will develope into an 8 point no matter what feed is avaliable!! how many trophy 6 points will die and go to waste in the restricted areas? AND THIS IS GOOD PGC MANAGEMENT? i just don't get it!!!

ORIGINAL: Carpet Bagger
Im not really your most experienced hunter, but i think its pretty obvious PA has declared war against the Whitetail Deer...lol

 
They did to a certain extent in many areas.  When the habitat recovers to support deer and other wildlife, allocations will be altered.

That opinion may hold to be true if you hunt private unpressured land where you can walk up and pet your deer and give him a handful of corn before you lay into him with your 30.06...Come on out in the big woods and try to find one....

Hard to see them 4.5 year old buck with every1 slinging lead at everything that moves...lol

ORIGINAL: Carpet Bagger
Hard to see them 4.5 year old buck with every1 slinging lead at everything that moves...lol

Hard to see them on private property as well because few exist .

ORIGINAL: pghmarty

Deer are in the city not out in the rural areas they shood be.

I've hunted in meadville, Girard, Washington county. And the MOST deer I've seen was in my buddys woods in pittsburgh off 279 camp horne road exit.

How about dem apples?

Ohh and i shot nothing!

DC--
 
I happen to think the closed mind thought process of "everything is about me and my deer" is pretty greedy.
 
PGC manages 466 species, not just YOUR deer.

I vote license increase. 

A license increase in the face of hunter dissatification at the present time would end up costing more in lost licenses than would gain in the increase in my opinion.

Probably the people who lease the land from the government .  (We call ourselves Land owners of course). Atleast I'll have another $75.00 that'll plant atleast two more acres of winter wheat for all game.