Which guy are you referring to ? Me? Not sure what you mean when you say HIS way .

ORIGINAL: retired guy

Wish I lived where you could leave a stand out and not lock the house. Have had burglary- stuff stolen from the yard and several stands long gone.
AHHHH but I digress-if that guy posting earlier gets his way stands will be illegal. I wonder what else he does not participate in that must be highly improper for the rest of us to do.
Unfortunately that attitude seems to be going around. The antis love it- we fight amongst ourselves. I wonder exactly whos idea of the RIGHT way to hunt will be the one left. I gotta know so I dont buy stuff that will become illegal.

Hey Outdoor-
  No not you- a guy bearing a handle of Noodle One wrote it on 2/17 on this thread.
    I keep reading negative opinions from guys about stuff they themselves dont do and am very concerned about the cumulative effect of such logic.
  There all too commonly seems to be a statement about those things not becoming or continuing to be legal. Its kind of the ME generation coming alive in outdoor sports. My way or the highway kind of stuff.
   Its too bad in MHO cause we are all enjoying the same thing in similar but different ways. Should it ever come down to a showdown about restricted hunting in general ( not a completley out of touch scenario considering some of what we read here) I would wonder exactly whos description of HUNTING would prevail.
  Like my Cousin with the Bear Plots says " we are probably the last generation in our family to be able to do this". We have hunted over  hounds since the old ones came over from Europe -they did it there too.
   Personally I would never sit in another guys stand, or begrudge his rights to have it.

A CDI# is so the PGC can identify the owner. Any type of identification is substantial for proving it belongs to you. Your initials only is proof enough for prosecution.I would identify with initials and last four digits of SS #. This type of ID is better because it not limited to PA. I would contact the state police before the PGC on this issue in case of theft. Past experience with the PGC has left me high and dry. A big waste of time.

Think I,m going Ohio way. hunted 37 years here . PGC 1-B 9 years later was more than enough for me. 

Are you kidding... hang and then sit in a dead tree that may fall at any time ????

surely you are joking ????

Not that I would Doc, just a philosphical question. What constiutes damage to a tree? If the tree is dead, is there any damage? If it falls and no one is around to hear it fall, does it make a noise?...WF

At the rate the PGC is going you will not be allowed to kick the leaves out from around the base of the tree to stand there. One other thing, does a ground blind (not attached to a tree) have to be removed at seasons end ? It's not a tree stand.

CID# is exactly what you said, so the PGC knows who it belongs to. Trust me you don't want to let them know who the owner is by your CDI#. PGC can then fine you for even the slightest violation like if it happens to break the bark on the tree even it it occurs from the wind blowing and rubbing the bark off.If The PGC sees someone carrying a stand first thing they ask for is the persons ID. Drivers license, etc.What about a friend removing a stand for physically challenged friend or what ever? Do you really think someone who is stealing a stand would give you their CDI# ? The person who does not remove their stand off of GLs in the time allocated will be subject to a fine. Betting the fine is more than the replacement cost of the stand. Another reason not to put your CDI# on it. How about a ground blind does the same laws apply to ground blinds as well ? Ever wonder why less people are hunting now of days. Maybe perhaps the are just getting fed up !!!

ORIGINAL: RSB

ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures

A CDI# is so the PGC can identify the owner. Any type of identification is substantial for proving it belongs to you. Your initials only is proof enough for prosecution.I would identify with initials and last four digits of SS #. This type of ID is better because it not limited to PA. I would contact the state police before the PGC on this issue in case of theft. Past experience with the PGC has left me high and dry. A big waste of time.

I don’t care if it doesn’t have any identification on it. It was only a suggestion because when we encounter someone carrying a stand out of the woods and the CID number doesn’t match we could probably prevent a person from loosing their property. If it doesn’t have something we can quickly call in to determine ownership then it will be assumed to belong to the person in possession of it.
 
People who don’t have any reason to hide their identity around their hunting site would probably benefit from having their equipment marked with some form of easily traced identification.
 
Those that leave their stand up on the game lands outside the two week periods on each end of the season will have it removed by the Game Commission. Then they can either call to get it back or it will be surrendered as abandoned equipment.
 
R.S. Bodenhorn

You knew what I meant TROUT !! The wind causes the tree to sway, in turn the tree rubs the stand down past the bark. You need some pictures to understand that Dr Trout ??? This tree stand law in only the beginning. Soon the PGC will sell permits for the use of stands on Game Lands. Then after that they will sell a permit to access the Game Lands as well. It's coming a little at a time. It's just a matter of time. Just one more way to get into your pockets.

ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

then fine you for even the slightest violation like if it happens to break the bark on the tree even it it occurs from the wind blowing and rubbing the bark off

Interesting..

I have NEVER seen the wind remove the bark from a tree down to the Cambium layer.. how does the wind "rub" the bark off ????? Must have some sharp wind in OA's area

If it's actually the wind blowing the tree stand that does the damage... then YES... that is against the law... it should result in a fine...

Can you damage a dead tree?

WOW that's intersting, it has never caused damage when I have climbed one in the past ?????

I love pines and hemlocks, but rarely find where I do not have to do some trimming of branches and that's a no-no on SGL... but I agree it's easy to break up your outline..

The new tree stand law is not about damaging trees (there has always been law for that) but leaving a stand on Game Lands property during the so called off season.I see no difference leaving a blind vs a tree stand. It's up to the owner if they want to leave either as either one could be possibly stolen.When asking the PGC about a stand that was removed from game lands once, their reply was you shouldn't of left it there. So if anyone thinks the PGC will assist you in recovering a stand stolen from Game Lands think again. Can't leave a tree stand but you can leave a blind. I see no difference between the two as far as one being legal and one not. The PGC can try and sugarcoat this law all they want but its only reason is so they can flex their muscle.Can anyone give an example where a tree stand has "interfered" with the PGC as far as being a problem on game lands ? There are more people now days than ever before that disapprove of the ways of the PGC. License sales will tell you that, as if you haven't already known. They removed most of the deer from the woods, next will be the trestands and hunters will soon follow.

why would you expect the PGC to help recover a stolen tree stand?  not their job.

ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures

CID# is exactly what you said, so the PGC knows who it belongs to. Trust me you don't want to let them know who the owner is by your CDI#. PGC can then fine you for even the slightest violation like if it happens to break the bark on the tree even it it occurs from the wind blowing and rubbing the bark off.If The PGC sees someone carrying a stand first thing they ask for is the persons ID. Drivers license, etc.What about a friend removing a stand for physically challenged friend or what ever? Do you really think someone who is stealing a stand would give you their CDI# ? The person who does not remove their stand off of GLs in the time allocated will be subject to a fine. Betting the fine is more than the replacement cost of the stand. Another reason not to put your CDI# on it. How about a ground blind does the same laws apply to ground blinds as well ? Ever wonder why less people are hunting now of days. Maybe perhaps the are just getting fed up !!!

ORIGINAL: RSB

ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures

A CDI# is so the PGC can identify the owner. Any type of identification is substantial for proving it belongs to you. Your initials only is proof enough for prosecution.I would identify with initials and last four digits of SS #. This type of ID is better because it not limited to PA. I would contact the state police before the PGC on this issue in case of theft. Past experience with the PGC has left me high and dry. A big waste of time.

I don’t care if it doesn’t have any identification on it. It was only a suggestion because when we encounter someone carrying a stand out of the woods and the CID number doesn’t match we could probably prevent a person from loosing their property. If it doesn’t have something we can quickly call in to determine ownership then it will be assumed to belong to the person in possession of it.
 
People who don’t have any reason to hide their identity around their hunting site would probably benefit from having their equipment marked with some form of easily traced identification.
 
Those that leave their stand up on the game lands outside the two week periods on each end of the season will have it removed by the Game Commission. Then they can either call to get it back or it will be surrendered as abandoned equipment.
 
R.S. Bodenhorn

 
You don’t seem to get it.
 
In the past it was always illegal to leave a tree stand or a blind on the game lands if the WCO wanted to pursue it as litter, which it actually qualifies as when a person places it and leaves it.
 
The new law is actually what now allows a person to LEGALLY leave their tree stand and avoid the possibility of being charged as long as they stay within that law.
 
There is nothing that allows a person to leave a blind on the game lands but I suspect most WCOs will treat it much the same as they would a tree stand in allowing it to be there. The one difference I can see would be the difference in which section of law to use if they don’t remove it.
 
From your posts I have to figure you are either extremely paranoid or a violator. Most honest people aren’t afraid of the laws or the enforcement officers.
 
For the record your license has a CID (Customer Identification Number) instead of a CDI number.
 
Oh, and I almost forgot. Yes, you can damage a dead tree though I suspect it would take more to cause damage and the value of the tree you had to pay for would be less.
 
R.S. Bodenhorn