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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/17 01:04:13 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Big Tuna

Carpin05,hey I hear ya,I drive 80 miles to fish,wait sometimes 4 hours,then have Steve's posie come and weasel in when he leaves,there just a cell phone call away,some of the locals are good guy's and have told he to move in and start fishing,there's a good bunch of guy's and then there's the outlaws,hey but thats every where there a big run on fish,same at Erie tribs and the Mumee river in Ohio,you got class act guy's,and you got outlaws slobs,I'm past my fighting day's,but I'm not going to take IT"S MY LAKE CRAP,MY SPOT.



You are so right about that Steve guy. I used to years ago fish the wall part but the crowding and hogging go out of line for me now I just go in with my boat( 16 ft 4 seater fully carpeted with all the goodies on it) alot more comferable to be in then the wall standing. Always looking for an extra on weeknights to go out on the boat with me as its a pain in the butt dropping ancors in that big boat in the current buy yourself.

SO MANY FISH SO LITTLE TIME.
WHY ARE ALL THE PLACES I HAVE YET 2 FISH SO FAR AWAY?
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 00:10:47 (permalink)
Well got my first keeper Walleye of 2009 from Pymatuning lake at around 9:30 pm or so a nice fat 24in female. pic below.she sure looks tasty swiming in my makeshirt livewell. 38 inch long by 18in wide cooler with electric pump for airation..works like a charm.

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SO MANY FISH SO LITTLE TIME.
WHY ARE ALL THE PLACES I HAVE YET 2 FISH SO FAR AWAY?
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 00:35:37 (permalink)
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 15:44:36 (permalink)
Heading up Friday and staying thru sat.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 16:18:43 (permalink)
New to the forum. In reply to BigTuna, I agree that there are good guys and some outlaws. Unfortunately, I got to witness some of the "Outlaws" this past weekend. I've been fishing Pyma for over 35 years and have met a lot of great guys but some don't know when to shut their mouth's. I'm fishing with my 14 year old son at the spillway in the late afternoon and a couple of these moron's where using every cuss word known and then some, and loud!! I don't have a vocabulary of a saint but I do have the decency to know when young children are around and other people that do not care to hear it. Not so concerned about my son, but there are family's walking around with very young children watching the fishermen and walking around the spillway area. A lot of took off as did I. You can give me the FREEDOM OF SPEECH crap but maybe some people were raised by humans with some morals and others by #@$%^@^. 
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 17:20:30 (permalink)
Jahush, Welcome to the Boards. Is't a shame how people act. I say my share of words but, In the presense of other men in private. NOT IN PUBLIC. You will have guy's telling you that you should have said or done something. You did what you felt was the right thing for you. Don't pay attention to them. It's a shame, how you can't take kids anywhere without the idiots.

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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 17:26:09 (permalink)
youngguru, I am sure, many like myself have missed your recent absence. You have a great sense of humor! Nice to see you back!

My Wife said, if I go fish'n one more time, she'll leave me! God, I'm going to miss her!
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 20:05:23 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: chauncy

 The only question i have is why do they close the river?

 
 
The reason they close the river is because it is entirely in the state of Pa. All state regs apply. Ohio has no closed walleye season. Since the lake is the border between the two states, Ohio regs apply. They don't close the season.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 20:05:38 (permalink)
 Jahush,I agree I've said plenty of bad words ,but in a public place like that it's bad,there some real low life,in some places,that kind of public profanity is I believe a sighting for disorderly conduct. Sorry it ruined your day,but I believe I'm the type,that I would have told them a piece of my mind. I may be there Thursday night,so give a shout egg sack if your fishing by yourself,if not I'll squeeze in with my 12 foot noddle rod,good luck to all and try to keep a cool head,and thats hard for me.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 20:20:08 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Big Tuna

Carpin05,hey I hear ya,I drive 80 miles to fish,wait sometimes 4 hours,then have Steve's posie come and weasel in when he leaves,there just a cell phone call away,some of the locals are good guy's and have told he to move in and start fishing,there's a good bunch of guy's and then there's the outlaws,hey but thats every where there a big run on fish,same at Erie tribs and the Mumee river in Ohio,you got class act guy's,and you got outlaws slobs,I'm past my fighting day's,but I'm not going to take IT"S MY LAKE CRAP,MY SPOT.

 
 
 
I cant wait to go and have that happen to me. Those clowns are in for a rude awakening this year I can tell ya that much. Mind you I'm not one of the "noodle rodders".Fishin over someone's head and all. I even saw a guy with a 14ft surf rod there one day!  The point is.......... these guys fish in shifts, round the clock. I don't care who you are! If I'm waitin to fish and they try the old "switch-a-roo" Someone is swimmin'. If you can imagine this? They fish till 11:30, run to Stevie's house, drop off the fish and go back after midnight. All while another group gets there before they leave to "hold" down the fort. They made friggin planks to stand on for cripes sake! 12 hours a day, for a month. You do the math.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 20:34:50 (permalink)
They were snagging again this evening, 8 boats and a crowd on both sides. What a joke.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 20:35:24 (permalink)
And no fish police in sight. 
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 20:47:14 (permalink)
Last year Stevie told me he had 200 eyes in the freezer,that's a pile,20 - 30 fish a year is all I want,I use a 8 1/2 steelhead rod if I'm close to the water,a 10 foot noodle rod if I'm in the middle and a 12 footer if I'm at the top,there's only room for about 5 guys on each side and if everyone fishes right and gets there lines out when you say fish on,there's no problem BUT that don't always work out, all it thats is one guy not following the program and it can get sticky messing with tangled lines,When your the fifth one up the line your really not fishing over anyone's head,the tip of your noodle rod will be less than 6 inches over the wire,last year one evening my son and I waited 4 hours the poise packing it up,cell phone call from the leader of the pack,relieve team  shows up and move right in,I said no no to that crap,my son and I just move in and started fishing,they mouthed off and so did I,they backed down and we fished the night together,it's not for everyone,my 24 year old son doesn't even want to go this year but I'll more than likely make my three yearly trips to to the spillway maylay.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 23:02:38 (permalink)
I can't for the life of me figure out how anyone would consider that to be an enjoyable experience.  I'm not chastizing anyone who chooses to participate, I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out why.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/18 23:04:36 (permalink)
I did it Once  Never again  Maybe from a boat but not that wall

 



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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/19 08:09:11 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Bogeyjoker

I can't for the life of me figure out how anyone would consider that to be an enjoyable experience.  I'm not chastizing anyone who chooses to participate, I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out why.

 
Only way the fish scabs can fill the freezer.....
 
 
CLOSE IT DOWN...Send them home..Shooting fish in a barrel...fun fun..

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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/19 09:38:03 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Bogeyjoker

I can't for the life of me figure out how anyone would consider that to be an enjoyable experience.  I'm not chastizing anyone who chooses to participate, I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out why.
[/    quote] I"m with ya here Bogey, reminds me of the second or third trout stocking watching guys fish 20ft away while they are stocking fish in the lake or stream.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/19 10:53:32 (permalink)
They should reduce the limit if people are goinig to abuse it like that.  Sounds like Steve and company need to realize that if everyone took that many, there wouldnt be any left.   
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/19 14:06:26 (permalink)
If you think the spillways bad think on a much bigger level,Muamee River,Sandusky River,there getting fish now and it's shoulder to shoulder sometimes,kind of make the spillway look tame,the wildest place I ever fished,4 fish limit and not all fish are in the mouth,maybe more undercover fish cops than fishermen,again if you do everything right you will have no problems,just think of all the L. Erie eyes making that run. I guess they should close that down too. Ha ha thats not going to happen either. I've got a friend that lives there and keeps me posted,once was enough,but the fishing was great.If you think the Pymy Poise Bad,there rookies compare to the Muammee thugs.(not all)
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/19 14:08:27 (permalink)
and when you compare a river with miles of water and access to the spillway I'm sure they're just as bad....just not as many of them due to spatial limitations...why do you think they work in shifts??
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/19 20:04:05 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Big Tuna

If you think the spillways bad think on a much bigger level,Muamee River,Sandusky River,there getting fish now and it's shoulder to shoulder sometimes,kind of make the spillway look tame,the wildest place I ever fished,4 fish limit and not all fish are in the mouth,maybe more undercover fish cops than fishermen,again if you do everything right you will have no problems,just think of all the L. Erie eyes making that run. I guess they should close that down too. Ha ha thats not going to happen either. I've got a friend that lives there and keeps me posted,once was enough,but the fishing was great.If you think the Pymy Poise Bad,there rookies compare to the Muammee thugs.(not all)

 
in defense of the Maumee river. only because I will fish it twice a week unitil the walleye run is over.  It is highly regulated. check the regs
 
1.  fishing sunrise to sunset only
2.  one single hook, no trebels, with no more than a 1/2 inch gap.
3.  4 fish limit
 
It is very policed, I have been fishing the run for about 7 or 8 years now and back when I started it was a 3 fish limit.  I have seen many a guy fined for keeping snagged fish, the fish police actually hide in the wood in hunting blinds and watch from 500 yars away on the other side of the river to bust the "Snaggers".  You do not need to fish in shifts, I have never failed to find a place to wet my line because its a big river and everyone coming is not coming to fish in the same spot.
 
What would happen to the fishing at the "wire" if they placed these same regs on it.
 
I live 25 minutes from the wire at pym. and I drive 3 hours to fish the Maumee river rather than even bother with that circus at the spillway.
 
I was there yesterday (maumee) had my 4 fish limit by 10 a.m. (started at 7:45) and caught 10 legals by 12:30.  foul hooked about 12 or 13.    As you see below there is a little more space than you see at the wire.
 

 
 
 
 

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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/19 21:37:11 (permalink)
foul hooked about 12 or 13.



mak7464,


Not trying to yank your chain at all but if your foul hooking that many fish in a day thats not good at all.Even in the past when I spent 20 plus nights each spring fishing the Pymatuning spillway for walleyes. Did I eve foul hook that many in 2-3 years combined.

As for the people complaining about the spillway its crowed so bad not just cause the fish get consitrated. But cause its pretty much the only place in Pa during the normal closed season of Walleye you can still legaly keep them.That along will bring the numbers of people by far. And yes many Walleyes get dfoul hooked at the spillway every year but mostly buy what i like to call the yankers. These a right and a wrong way to work a vibee,sonar,cincada and a wrong way. Sadly most there do it the wrong way and snag fish cause of it.Oh and contrary to somes peoples belive the spill;way is usualy patroled very hard and mostly buy plain clothed undercover fishwardens..Also the Pa dec can and does watch as well.

The spillway has its good and badd issue but for the guys that have no boat it pretty much there only chance to catch a few walleyes each year. The shift guys and the steve guy are just plain greedy every year same crap. Last year I never went to the spillway till after then Walleye run was over cause I just did not feel like dealing with all the crazyness. This year I have been fishing there twice out of my boat 3 undersized and 1 adult all fair hooked not one foul yet this year.

SO MANY FISH SO LITTLE TIME.
WHY ARE ALL THE PLACES I HAVE YET 2 FISH SO FAR AWAY?
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/19 22:27:34 (permalink)
Did you finally get a job?

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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/20 08:35:24 (permalink)
hey mak would be interested in making trip to maumee river with you.could split the costs if you have room.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/20 08:59:25 (permalink)
I'll tell you what would happen if the changed the regs at the "wire". Stevie and his band of clowns would cry. They wouldn't be able to string up 6 walleyes. They wouldn't be able to setup their"stake out" for weeks. I think that is the only answer, besides closing it, to the overcrowded mess that is the spillway.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/20 12:06:21 (permalink)
have never fished the spillway before me and a buddy were plannen on takeing the flatbottom up this evening.  it sounds like most ppl use sonars is this the best approach?  would having a second rod hooked to a minnow and bobber work as well?
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/20 18:10:46 (permalink)
Sugarfuzz12,stick to blade baits,Vib-E,Sonars,Silver buddies, or Cicadas, 1/4 oz and I have had great luck on the small 1/8 oz Vib-E's,also you must use a cross lock snap,not a snap swivel,don't be afraid to change colors,some nights it make a huge difference,learn to work the lure,drop to the bottom,gentle lift your rod tip up a foot or so,and follow your lure back down,many time I'll get the hit on the drop,a lot of people just try to snag them by ripping the Vib-E,but the fish do hit it if fished right,good luck
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/20 18:49:20 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Big Tuna

I'll be heading to the spillway soon,after the rain on Tuesday and Wed.,the fish will be moving with the higher water,Vibe-E's,Sonars,cicadas,are used.Some fish are foul hooked and are released,the wardens right there watching it all,I have never kept a foul hooked fish,I believe the fine is $125,last year,one night I hooked over 20 fish( the warden was right there watching)but only 6 where in the mouth,two nights later the first 6 fish that hit where all in the mouth,some days they really smack it and some days they don't,as for snagging there's plenty of that going on in any Erie trib,they just call it lifting there,some people are trying to snag fish and some people know how to work a Vibe-E,a slight rise on the rod tip of a foot and then follow your vibe-e back down,any bump or slack line set the hook,you know instantly if the is foul hook by the fight,if it's pounding for the bottom 95% it's hooked right,if it comes to the surface and fight all crazy,it's foul hooked,Ive done the spillway thing since the late 70's,it's been going on since the 50's but it gets a lot of bad talk now,just do everything right,don't keep foul hooked fish,if you fish from a boat,have lights,life jackets,registation,if you fish by the laws you'll have know problems.

 
Sounds like alot more snagging than bites to  me...You do it right and you snag them in the lower jaw....
 
How come no one uses the traditional walleye baits that work every other place on earth..Like minnows and night crawlers....
 
Oh wait you can't jerk them up and down continuously with treble hooks...
 
 

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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/20 19:28:56 (permalink)
Bingsbait,I'm not going to get into a ****in match,but they do hit,I'd say if one treble inside the roof of the mouth and one's in the corner of the mouth it'a good hook,one night last year all 6 of my fish had it down there throat, the Fish warden has watched me put fish on the stringer,and I've never been fined, a fish on the out side of the mouth( under the jaw as you say would not be legal,but tell me this how many times have you caught a bass that didn't have a hook anywhere in his mouth? (on a lure with trebles) I caught a a lot of eyes in past year wading the stepping stone rock out side the spillway throwing jigs,last year I had to wait to get a spot ,so I threw a Chart. twister tail and caught 2 in the mouth to the right of the spillway,there's not a lot of room for that type of fishing there.If all the fish are snagged then why isn't everybody busted.Bing if you never done it,don't say there all snagged,oh is that's why everybody that ice fishes for eyes use Vib-E's,the 4lb and 7 lber I got through the ice had the Vib-E in there mouth also.
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RE: Where are the walleyes at Pyma? 2009/03/20 21:31:58 (permalink)
But they will not eat a minnow or a night crawler..ok...

You can do what ever the hell you want there it's legal. Fill your freezer...brag to your friends.


Still snaggging in my book and treble hooks should be outlawed there..See how many bite with just single hooks.


Real fisherman wouldn't be involved in the BS that goes on there....

I've never SNAGGED a walleye trolling crawler harnesses or drifting jigs with meat in the lake, a couple of the prefered methods 11 months out of the year.

Looks like dog****,smells dog****.....hmmmmmmmmmm
post edited by bingsbaits - 2009/03/20 21:33:56

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