ORIGINAL: flifisherie

ORIGINAL: orvis09

you can fish here... you can't fish there. seems like its getting a bit out of hand. all due respect to the land owners but how are we supposed to know if we don't see signs on one side, but we can fish the other side. maybe there should be a newsletter thats mailed out. it all seems a little ridiculous to me. we just fishing!!!!!

well well well...the rat emerges from the sewer...tell them all about your trespassing buddy..on the east side...not only do you need a fish counter, but a compass and gps would be great x-mas presents as well...before you make another faulty assumption...no...i am not him...i created this account on his computer though...and you do know me...this post was for waxmyworm...flyfisherie...flifisherie...and whatever other name he goes by...sucking some more eh?...or is is it pitch and catch like baseball?

SI

Come on now.
That's my water and it is posted and controlled by me!
Where is the hot spotting police?
Karl W.

ORIGINAL: Skip16503

OH God here we go again LOL

ORIGINAL: spoonchucker

You CAN fish the opposite site of the SRC lease there. There is a possibility that an attempt to force you off will be made ( report it to a WCO ). You CAN also access the opposite side legally, but I could not explain it to you. The best bet would be to contact Brook Tolbert, and he can direct you as to how to access this area, as you have to be careful not to violate OTHER posted property in the process. I don't know how to access it, as there is too much equally, or more productive water to fish without going through the hassle.

As for the PF&BC causing the loss of the Dohler property. That is just nonsense. In fact they probabbley keep it open much longer than it might otherwise have been. It was your fellow anglers that lost this property, AND kept it from being re-opened. And the issues were not related solely on the most commonly know incident. It was also probabley the best thing to happern to that stream. More fish make it upstream than ever before. Problem is, that they also continue on beyond the border. Nothing the PF&BC can do about that. Granted there may not be any better holding water in N.Y. but the fish still go up there looking for it. They don't have stream maps.

I don't think Penna's fish "imprint" particularly well, regardless of where they are stocked. They seem to hit the shoreline in various spots, and cruise the shoreline looking for an opening. Lots of un-stocked "ditches" get runs. It could be that unlike other states, and the west coast, all Penna. tribs flow through the same terrain, and watershed, giving them basically the same "smell". I don't know, but I have to have a theory, and that's it.

ORIGINAL: egg sac






Well if you realy want too look at it in a truthfull manner it was stolen from the indians in the first place. Making for the orignal eminent domain.

ORIGINAL: egg sac

genieman77


I am all for landowner rights but do belive it should be the way it was orignaly worded for this country that basicaly all nav waters both past( elk and walnut) and present (including the rule in part in whole )be full stream access to high water mark. Now I also understand the argumnets about not wanting anyone in thier back yards ..Bet it could some how be aranged to build them a fence to keep bad people out to keep access open. Also the lands in question along the erie tribs was origanaly iricois/senica(sp) indian land we stole. and belive me thier was way more steal then trade..trail of tears ring a bell straight up goverment theft. thank the low life on our 20 dollar bill for that one. if not the how about the viral warfair with small pox white man did to them to steal land. Nothing we have in the us today land wise was gotten without some low underhanded steal or deal...


ones personal pond should be off limits as well as land but I will always belive the moving water should never have an owner.


I do however had what I feel is a good idea that would benifit all expecialy landowners.
What if say thier could be made some kind of land owner assiation/group that all the stream owners or even part of them take part in. We as anglers buy a special access stamp( cheap say 5 bucks) to fish all these areas the proceds get divided between the landowners based on amount of avialible stream frontage they give access to. only people with the special stamp can fish these areas..this is just a thought may not work but is an idea.