Good luck- don't push it with the injury.
 
Just read a Niagara river report- -- worse than the Sr, they too thought great lake fishing would indicate a good river run- not to be- some pros are cancelling trips.
Something aint right out there.

At least one writer on the Niagara has postulated that maybe all the west end fish were caught in the spring and early summer.   There has also been a lot of chatter about the possible effects of the captain and mate keeping limits that are then  distributed to the clients, a violation of the F+G laws the way I read them.  And then  there are the guys taking parties out deep now for steelhead and 2 year olds, that is like pulling your carrot patch when they are still baby carrots and still expecting to fill the larder later in the season. 

Schizammm- 19 ooops-2014 ???
My how time flies-or am getting tooo old to remember stuff.
1987 was my first time up for Steel-the Shohari Creek bridge on the Throughway had collapsed prior to the trip.
Had been up for Kings a couple of seasons before.
 
Seems a 20% reduction of stocking is really only a 10% gross reduction as half the fingerings come from natural spawn IMHO.
There was, however, a  severe lack of beds where I fished and VERY few deads seen.
Hopefully the zones have a lot of beds for a natural spawn.

As L-13 pointed out, there have been drastic reductions on chinook salmon for quite awhile now. I can't recall them off hand anymore but do know it was hit hard again in 2017 and continues to decline by a % .They keep chopping away at that number citing natural reproduction and lack of forage.
The mature salmon are not going belly up on the bottom of the lake. They are not showing a lack of food for those harvested in the lake and just hitting anything that swims.
Yes they are being harvested in the lake in great numbers. Better technology in equipment ( maybe better than the dec , lol ) and a huge amount of recreational charters and fishers. Who really cares if the captain and mates keep their limits also ? There are 6 people on the boat. Times that by 3 , plus trout. Daily and even twice daily, in a 5 month season, lot of dang fish being caught out there.
So in these given stocking reductions, the tribs guys get what's left..
You guys that been on the river see the results, not me. Let's just say, 500 ppl fish and 100 people limit out by whatever means .. sloppy seconds and thirds get very depressing....

Buckle up

r3g3
More like 500 people and 450 limit out by any means.
Downriver is an absolute snag fest and the rest aint much different  imho.
They oughta knock off the pretend and go back to Michigan Crickets- -maybe they would limit out sooner and get the hell off the banks so the 50 of us can have some peace.

I will add , I could have ''caught fish''.  There are spots I did not go today where I could of ''hunter gathered'' if I chose.  I had tons of room except boat traffic in both river spots and these are usually prime productive spots

750 today -plus runoff over 900 at Pineville----GOOD
 With recent rains and a bit more water whatever is coming-cept the ever coming Steel-should be now or never .
Still think its too late for much of a King run though.
 
Talk of some more Browns but not seeing much on my favorite- Hos.
 
A bit more Steel action and will try and get back up in bout 2 weeks.

The Cohos ran big time back in September.  I saw Griz last week, and he says they are stacked like cordwood in UFZ.
 
I'm up Tues- Friday next week.

I do miss the secret spot.
Had some of my best days ever with all species since its inception.
It got zoo like becoming puckerbush creek and driftboats on side of road. I've found tents camped in woods on 3-31 and a nation of spey.
If things start to return to normality and a craze my subside in subsequent years due to that 1 fish may swim the tributary, I'd be drawn back.

Hope everyone that fishes has a field of dreams too

That should start today, Northern Zone Gun Season opened this morning.

Always have liked the drive in and out along the road between Camden and Altmar.
Very scenic clean and nice.
Camden IMHO is a very photogenic, clean  country town.
That main street is right outa a country living magazine.
BIG SNOW there piled high in the lots till mid May  lol
Also a very reasonable drive over to the SR.
A nice straight Country shot up to the Tug areas behind the Reservoir  when going out the back way too.
Good luck Charlie- hope you find what your looking for.
 

Dang fichy I'm jealous, you got a place to park a RV nearby, for a few months? ummm,... during summer? 😁

Congratulations👍

No need to worry about all the fishing areas you mentioned... I don't spot burn🙄 Honest😬


Good times and tight lines.

Actually left the river a day early to go check out (hike to, not fish) a few  brookie ponds in the western dacks. One worth returning to! I only saw  a few zebras, ones I saw hooked were black upriver and in the belly. I heard there were steel in the upper, but you'd have to really  hunt. I talked to a number of guys from up to 8 hours away that said this is their last trip. A guy above me in the DSR landed a nice steel sideways with the usual marble and a midge. The Spey guys I was around and all those trying legally got zip.  I'd estimate I saw several hundred man hours without a fish.  I don't know what mid-river was like, maybe better.  Unfortunately, I don't fish for serenity or scenery, if I ain't catching I ain't happy. I really should have gone to the coast, from now on I'll stick with it. I'm not making a statement on how many fish, or what methods to use on the SR, I'm saying, for me, it wasn't good. Going less and less for me has taken its toll. I'm about clueless. If you know what your doing, there's probably fish to be caught. My confidence level for the SR has gone into negative numbers. So, as this ain't my personal blog, I'll  just wish others best of fishing and thanks for the info and encouragement. Maybe next year. You'll do alright, Trev, you got the skills. 

I'm with you fichy. If in not catching fish in a setting like that I'm not very happy.
Glad you explored some pond. If ever in the mood, check out burge pond above crane.
Pharoah wilderness is kinda busy a peak times, there are tons of trails and bushwacks to nice places too that get no pressure. Crane pond rd is not for faint of heart to drive into but can be done.
Long trail access off 78 is all hike in.

As for fishing myself.
It really is about my surroundings. I don't care how many fish are piled up anywhere, I can't no longer tolerate D- bags. There are usually plenty in a crowd.
Like you maybe, we go to our go to places knowing the times and places to have an enjoyable time.
I used to hunt public areas where deer were a plenty. Opening day sounded like Vietnam and most everyone was loading their trucks with game. Wouldn't catch me there now or the last 33 years. I'm at peace with my outdoors activities.
20 weeks of walking on water ahead 😀

Bummer Clint. At least you got a walk in the park. I envy the local folks that while it's a wasted time, from my point it's a 3 plus hr one way road trip.
I'm paring down on my wasted times in a vehicle as best I can.

Hope you give us a good report this weekend while I sit in a tree

Thanks for the accurate report- glad you got into some.
Have found that -even in the best of times- Steel are tough to catch, although some days can be great.
When its tough down low its tougher upriver IMHO until they start to stack as time goes on.
Seems that most species this uncommon year are gonna continue to be thin.
Gotta keep expectations low.
That said your last morning is the stuff that keeps ya coming back-GREAT.
 
Ya never know with Steel till the season gets going, they certainly didn't pile in this time with the Kings.
Have been up in years where one Steel in a couple of days was a real good trip and others where they were on my little blue sacs on and off for hours.