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2019/09/09 17:36:09 (permalink)

Salmon trip

Got into Pulaski Sat night bout 9 PM
-Heavy rain ,thunder and lightning stopped around Altmar while coming in.
 
Slept in a bit on Sunday and went lower mid-LOTS of people and -for the time of year, decent fish in the AM.
Slowed as the day went on and really not much -if any- evening push.
 
Today ( mon) accidentally slept in again and didnt hit the river till about 7:30.
Far and away fewer people. Weekenders gone.
Apparently a decent night run and many AM fish on stringers already.
Not huge numbers this mid morning but slow and steady.
 
Have a favored downriver rock and small run generally to myself as its easily overlooked by the masses. As usual the kings would stop there where you can FISH for them.
Found them to be very fresh- feisty and unusually willing.
All mature Kings but not huge like some reports-just nice very fresh adult fish, many appearing in the mid 20s.
Reports of the fish being very strong are correct- mouth hooked fish are generally a bit controllable imho- not these-
strong runs into the backing VERY quickly were the norm.
Nursing some line burned fingers LOL
It was slow in the late AM and bugged for Ct around noon.
 
GREAT early trip.
Best part-- ran into Andy for a while in town.
 
post edited by r3g3 - 2019/09/09 17:39:02
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    Lucky13
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/09 18:23:02 (permalink)
    Good to hear, nice report.  Thursday it was so slow looking I went for Brookies up on the hill, and I didn't see anything happening when I went to P town to do some Xmas shopping on the way home Friday.
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/09 18:34:10 (permalink)
    Not saying its a run yet -cept perhaps at the very earliest of light.
     
    But the fish keep coming- albeit slowly.
    Kinda the beginning of the beginning of a run lol.
    Took a look at the estuary Sun afternoon- fish -yes- many -no.
    Still pretty nice for the time of year--
     
    Walked the lower plenty of early Septs w/o any luck when was a part time resident lol-soo- this is a bonus for a pos outa stater.
    post edited by r3g3 - 2019/09/09 18:37:44
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/09 19:10:23 (permalink)
    Nice report rg and glad you scratched the itch in tight lines.
    If you watch and lake reports, it was all coho at mouth of river today.
    I'll have to take a look at my gear next week.
    I gave a co worker my fly box when he went to Alaska a month ago. He quit his job and never came back. Hence, I have 1 less box full of flies , rod and reel.

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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/09 19:32:34 (permalink)
    You know how stories go up there, but one second hander was that there is a 3 mile stretch of solid Salmon showing along the shore someplace close by.
    One fella did say he saw a nice coho caught this AM in the river.
     
    post edited by r3g3 - 2019/09/09 19:36:34
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/10 12:37:27 (permalink)
    Good to read a report about FISHING,I like the other reports but it is the middle of Sept and really got the itch now ,but I'll be scratching that itch in two weeks
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/10 13:43:21 (permalink)
    Hope to be back in a few weeks myself--Good luck up there.
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/10 14:37:55 (permalink)
    I'll be scratching some gravel in Oswego County tomorrow AM!
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/18 11:14:51 (permalink)
    Had a real nice trip- for the time of year- last week and looking forward to another pretty soon.
    Been reading the reports constantly- clearly down low is good- but thats normal for there - then they spread out going up river - the experience changes as ya go up.
    Sooo, been looking for the rare actual fisherfolk experiences and find them not so commonplace cept for very low.
    Some of the shops aren't even doing regular daily reports yet - only now and then- and when they do post its been a general report on the lower third of the river.
    Guide services dong nice reporting but -face it- most are in the DSR.
    Opinion- good fishing here and there down low- like below 81- and spotty for walkers as you go up -spottier still far up.
    Nice pushes so far but no big run yet.
    Worth a trip -yea- but keep reasonable expectations for where ya go.
    post edited by r3g3 - 2019/09/18 11:16:04
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/19 07:56:33 (permalink)
    Thanks for that rg, I've got the itch, but not the heart. If I knew the river like you, I'd go. I've put time in, but not like you by a long shot. I just can't handle down low. Paying for it does no good, as last time I was there it came very  close to a fight.  I hate backing down from snagging a hats that jump in front of you.  I'm  retirement age for God's sake!    I'll see how it goes, I have time off starting shortly and its going to be a tear between stripers and sharks.  I can stay in a campground with shots at 30 lb. stripers less than 200'  away, 300 if I count in a cast out to the rip at low tide, and see maybe, as in maybe,  a few surfcasters who are friendly locals. I'm a thousand time better striper fisherman than I am  flailing about on the river, too.  I may wait to later in Oct. and see how the steel situation shapes up. 
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/19 09:16:28 (permalink)
    Charlie-understand completely - had to walk away from holding fish as folks RAN over to my little hole when seeing me obviously trying to swing through for fish and began to slash, chase and cross my line.
    Don't like it but its the way it is early season down low.
    Thats why I like upriver later when fish are in- folks more spread out and-to a degree- more polite.
    When I started in the 80s ya could fish a LOOONGGGG way for Steel without anyone else around, and then ya gave each other space. Not anymore- 
    Now Steel-even in winter- are becoming the new slash, snag and chase species.
    If one can accept that its gonna happen and that ya gotta just move on now and then it can still be a nice trip.
    Gettin into my mid 70s and finally realize am too old to get into arguments or fights over a fish.
    Love it up there-often just get to a nice spot and sit back and watch the show.
    Have enough caught so that its the experience not the number that counts.
    Started before the DSR was even there - fished low all the time for quality of fish- even did the DSR thing when it started and liked it but that too became a chore as they started giving fishermen second choice of spots by allowing guides and clients in early to hog the nicest places so -bye bye.
    Havent kept a fish in many years- but the urge to catch them is still strong and I'll be darned if I let slobs stop me.
    Go up there and FISH its still GREAT.
    Good times still outweigh the bad-even when ya can no longer walk to the spot ya remember so well--ahhh father time- lol.
     
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/19 10:05:43 (permalink)
    I was in town roughly the same time as r3g3.  Spent the early part of the week, M, T, W, in DSR at the preseason rate of $40.00 per day.  Hooked some, landed few, but managed a very respectable 10+ lb Brown hen.  The first afternoon I had the tail out to the Spring Hole to myself.  I later shared that spot with two newbies who had never caught a king.  Both hooked up and couldn't thank me enough.  Watching them do battle was just as rewarding as hooking and landing a fish myself.  Just before leaving new blood showed up and I again gave the spot to a guy who proceeded to hook three fish landing one.  He was astonished that I would share the water.  Perhaps my generosity will wear off on those fellas.
    I did the same on Tuesday in the Little Black Hole.  A guy and his three friends had a very good afternoon after taking my suggestion to fish opposite me so they would get a better drift through the hole.  I could have been selfish keeping my observations from earlier that day to myself but it was worth the satisfaction of seeing those guys have a banner afternoon.  Simple gestures can make someones day, I know they made mine.           
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/19 11:21:11 (permalink)
    Perfect---
    I try and refrain from giving too much advise - as fly fishing goes with 1 being worst and 10 being best- am somewhere between a 2 and a 3.
    But never give up trying-
    Advice from guys who are good at it goes a long way- spin or fly.
    As you pointed out, reading water goes a long way too- (also makes up for a lot of my lousy presentations).
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/19 21:14:31 (permalink)
    Tb, I know exactly how your day went from memories of my own.
    I also know exactly how fichy felt as I was there on the day described.
    As many know, i feel the same as fichy because the days of tb are hit and miss these days.

    The only reason I now try to revisit during any river migration are to see people I enjoy to spend time and water with. The fishing is completely secondary as there are far better fishing opportunities in a much better environment
    post edited by hot tuna - 2019/09/19 21:17:30

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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/19 21:31:30 (permalink)
    Ps.
    The south side of spring hole is a bank monger set up side. The fish run the north side but you pick at only moving fish.

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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/23 13:46:56 (permalink)
    All set for the next trip in a couple of weeks with my youngest son- in his mid 40s.
    Surprised how easy a reservation was considering I just called in today. 
    Always  a dice roll on weather and water conditions reserving a couple of weeks out.
    In the old days if ya weren't reserved months in advance-outa luck.
    My inner clock says a mix of resident spawners and runners in a couple of weeks and likely some Steel.
    Likely be back in my favored November too ( big greens, hos and Steel- I hope)
    Again, missing 70 ish days a year up there.
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/23 20:37:59 (permalink)
    And so it begins here.
    Pulled out my travel box which I haven't looked at in 2 years. Always shambles but has the necessities for SR.
    After digging, at least I found my hooks in there I wanted. 4, 8 & 10's tossed a few ties in for some trout's too.
    Had a few hrs to myself and whipped up 3 dozen basics .
    Tomorrow maybe get a bit more naturals like crayfish and stone fly patterns done.
    For now I'm in the game.
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/24 18:45:14 (permalink)
    Free stuff means more work. I'll take red oak any chance I can. Getting to dark to see so maybe more flies in the evening .
    Rods , reels and terminal tackle located and accounted for.
    Waders, not yet since ausable on fathers day but the Simms will appear.

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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/25 16:56:22 (permalink)
    Have fun, Jack and whomever makes it up to his secret spot. Sounds like they are there in force.  
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/26 12:57:33 (permalink)
    Well I got all my fishing gear sorted and packed,just need to get cloths and misc. packed and I'm ready to go,will report in about 9 pm. tomorrow.
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/26 15:47:56 (permalink)
    GOOD FISHIN---
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/27 10:17:55 (permalink)
    Just checked the DSR report and they say huge numbers of Salmon pushing through,Coho's and Kings,also lots of HUGE Steelhead in the mix.I'm about ready to leave my place now and should be hooking up this evening.
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/27 10:53:18 (permalink)
    Sounds like  mid river will be  outstanding over the next couple of days  - IMHO
    Gonna have a great trip.
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/27 17:27:20 (permalink)
    Safe travels and good luck Jack. I'll be seeing you tomorrow evening sometime between 8-9pm. My kids are already asking me to bring coho or trout back , I told them to come catch their own, lol.
    I'm pretty set and packed for the trip but lots to do here before I leave.
    Garlic festival at 8am, bow range is set up for some shooting tomorrow and my grandsons birthday party at 2pm.
    Sooner or later, I'll get there.
    Right now I have to mow grass.

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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/27 21:20:20 (permalink)
    Ran into heavy traffic on 81 before the 481 by pass and lost about a hr,so I did nt get on LFZ until very late and got a zero for the fish,did n't see any one else hook up.There were fish there but did n't hit my flies.Going to try my secret spot in the AM.Don.t know where Ill be when you get here Rich but I'm in room 6,it's in the rear at end of building.
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/27 21:45:11 (permalink)
    Ok Jack thanks.
    Hopefully they like our flies or bust

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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/28 14:03:36 (permalink)
    Heading out in few hrs in route. Word I got is it's a complete ZOO up there with ppl.
    Hopefully I can navigate through town around 8pm .
    This may just be my swansong trip for salmon. After 40 years, I'm tired of circus events for fishing

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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/28 16:21:33 (permalink)
    And it's ended before it began. The fish master called me as I was putting my clothes in the trunk to head out.
    I was told I wouldn't be missing anything other than a bunch of people. He hooked up once.
    I decided I would pull the plug and work around the house on the many projects going on.
    Jack, I wish you well my friend and hopefully our paths will again cross

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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/28 16:37:59 (permalink)
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    And so it begins here.
    Pulled out my travel box which I haven't looked at in 2 years. Always shambles but has the necessities for SR.
    After digging, at least I found my hooks in there I wanted. 4, 8 & 10's tossed a few ties in for some trout's too.
    Had a few hrs to myself and whipped up 3 dozen basics .
    Tomorrow maybe get a bit more naturals like crayfish and stone fly patterns done.
    For now I'm in the game.

    Very nice!  
    I've been up a few days.
    Lots of fish with a boatload of coho in the river.
    Tough fishing for me but they are there in numbers.
     
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    Re: Salmon trip 2019/09/28 17:43:32 (permalink)
    hot tuna
    And it's ended before it began. The fish master called me as I was putting my clothes in the trunk to head out.
    I was told I wouldn't be missing anything other than a bunch of people. He hooked up once.
    I decided I would pull the plug and work around the house on the many projects going on.
    Jack, I wish you well my friend and hopefully our paths will again cross

    Going to head up tomorrow, with a friend, won't fish due to the elbow, but will walk and net with one hand

    The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span the hours spent in fishing.  ~Babylonian Proverb


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