ORIGINAL: bill18163

Maybe someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have fly fished since I was 15 years old. I started out using nymphs and mastered the way to fish a nymph after 48 years of doing it. I fish inland streams quite a bit and I use a dead drift with a tight line to detect a strike. I have never used a strike indicator and have no problem seeing the hesitation in the leader or line indicating a hit. I fish the same way for steelhead. I like to use the Blackbird shot because of the small BB's they have when needed. The other day I was fishing over a large bunch of fish and had an unusual amount of foul hooks. Maybe three or four in a row. I had two pieces of shot on that were so small you had to be careful pinching them on for fear of droping them. The first was up from the fly maybe 14" and the next one was maybe 6" up from the first. I fish a tight line and a high rod to detect a strike. When that line hesitates I strike. Many times it is a momentary bottom hit that produced the hesitation or maybe even a snag. My point is that I strike when this happens. More often than not it is a fish. But sometimes like the other day I will foul hook fish. This is frustrating and it irritates me but it happens. I am not a lifter or a snager but I have wondered sometimes if people around me might think that. How would I defend myself if I was accused of lifting or snaging? I'll tell you this, I would be hopping mad if I was accused of it.  

ORIGINAL: PeteM

Is this a Leisenrig lift? I've read that that is a very good technique when fishing nymphs or streamers, and have used it with good success.

" if the guy is good the hook is usually somewhere around the head. seeing lead 4 ft. above the hook is seeing a setup for lifting. that little twitch or sharp upswing at the end of each drift identifies a lifter from 100 yds. away. a sportsman makes a few drifts at a fish or shadow he sees and then walks away if he doesn't get a hit. the lifter keeps drifting till he hooks the fish somewhere. "

Where? Like its mouth? Cause I've worked spots of pocket water blind that I knew were holding fish, it just took a good while to get their attention. Was that "lifting them by their mouth after they bit my lure"? 

Realy now, How do you "lift" a fish that has the hook in its mouth? That sounds like catching one to me.

You know, the more I see of this forum, the more I think some of you guys are paranoid, jealous, covetous, petty little whiners that suffer from an affliction that prevents you from having any fun.

ORIGINAL: T.T.

ORIGINAL: FiveMilePete

That's amazing. I fish the East Side 99.9 % of the time and I've seen
WCO's at least 5 times, that I was sure, suspected several others, just this fall. Saw them giving a ticket to a guy at one of the parking areas, for having four fish, even though one was his friend's. Also saw them giving tickets last spring a couple of times.

Eastside suks, duud.  ok//
 
 
I can honestly say you re right on there T.T.  I hit the westside today and landed 4 times as many fish as I do on the eastside
 
 
 

ORIGINAL: Sloppie1

? I caught alot of fish the last 2 days and actually kept 2 for a friend and my fishing partner kept three. Now when I cleaned are 5 fish can anyone tell me what I found in there stomaches. NOT A THING CLEAN NOTHING NOTA ZILCH!!!!! So that being said maybe all the fish we kept were lifted but I'm guessing this happens alot more than people even think Because the fish are not eating it's either a respone action or defending their reed at this point IMO. Im guess 2 of the fish I caught were "lifted" because my fly (#16 GSP) was in the outside of the fishes mouth. Thats it can someone post those phone #s again I need to come clean to the WCO's lets all buck up and pay our fine's.

2nd ? Glen or anyone else why does this Awalays get directed at flyfishermen personaly I would think this would be even easier for any of the guys throwing nothing but Mono with a long leader maybe or even the pinners. Im usualy tossing something in the 14 16 18 fly size and using 4x 5x tippet seem that would be alot harder 2 me anyhow.

And last Glen u said u saw a guy walk into a hole over fish with lockjaw hmmmm. I fished alot of water the last 2 days and caught alot of fish in holes guys around me had not. Shared a drift with four of us in a hole I landed 6 the other 3 managed 5 combined even gave them all a couple of the flies. Same flies as my buds but I caught more fish. I was down to 5X tippet and sive 16 and for a while 18 GSP and some micro eggs. 2 of them said they were not comfortable going that small on tippet. So what it sounds like to me is basicaly your saying the fish wouldn't bite for you so since your the best they can't bite for me you show me fish I will trick at least 1 into eating on most days!! Lockjaw or no.

sorry about the spelling

ORIGINAL: *commander*

1. please stop YELLING

2. call "THE MAN"

or

3. say something to the people when you see it happening. if you feel strong enough about the situation that you can post it, you should have no problem saying something to the people that are doing it.