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DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
URGENT INFORMATION FOR PENNSYLVANIA FISHERMEN: For those readers not aware of this danger to streams and waterways please go to the following link from the Fish Commission.....being aware of this invasive organism is the first step in preventing it's spread and having it ruin our waterways........please read this and pass it on to all of your fishing friends. http://www.fish.state.pa.us/water/habitat/ans/didymo/faq_didymo.htm Regards: Flags
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/14 12:58:31
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Ive been trying to spread didymo from WV to Pa for years, looks like it is finally working!
In all seriousness, it sucks, and it practically destroys rivers. WV has some places that are over run with the crap. I always give my boots a little spray down with bleach water before changing streams, I think that's what the WVDNR suggests.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/14 16:08:13
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soaking in bleach wont even get in between the fibers of you felt, in all seriousness the best way to not worry about spreading it is wear rubber bottoms with studs in them.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/14 18:20:21
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soaking in bleach wont even get in between the fibers of you felt, in all seriousness the best way to not worry about spreading it is wear rubber bottoms with studs in them.
This statement is wrong in so many ways. This false sense of securtiy is the big problem with the new "eco friendly" rubber soles. Just because you have rubber soles does not mean you are not going to spread these invasives. Didymo, NZ Mud Snails, Golden Algae and god knows what else can hide in any part of your gear and all parts should be cleaned thoroughly. Laces are just as porous as felt and boots have countless little nooks where things can hide, so treat any boot as a carrier regardless of what sole it has. Is rubber better than felt for cleaning? Sure. But I wouldn't just assume that I am not carrying hitchhikers just because the boots don't have felt. This is scary stuff and could easily wreck many of our favorite fisheries if not taken seriously.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/14 22:45:17
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The ducks and other migratory water fowl will spread the rock snot so there really is no chance of keeping it from spreading. Same for the zebra mussels jmho
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/14 23:53:27
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ORIGINAL: Troutboy02
ORIGINAL: kyler16
soaking in bleach wont even get in between the fibers of you felt, in all seriousness the best way to not worry about spreading it is wear rubber bottoms with studs in them.Â
This statement is wrong in so many ways. This false sense of securtiy is the big problem with the new "eco friendly" rubber soles. Â
Just because you have rubber soles does not mean you are not going to spread these invasives. Didymo, NZ Mud Snails, Golden Algae and god knows what else can hide in any part of your gear and all parts should be cleaned thoroughly.
Laces are just as porous as felt and boots have countless little nooks where things can hide, so treat any boot as a carrier regardless of what sole it has. Is rubber better than felt for cleaning? Sure. But I wouldn't just assume that I am not carrying hitchhikers just because the boots don't have felt.
This is scary stuff and could easily wreck many of our favorite fisheries if not taken seriously.Â
It sounds like we need to start wading barefoot or start fishing nekked! haha. Then it isn't the aquatic fungus that we have to worry about spreading.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 09:04:03
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After enough money has been waisted posting invasive species signs and cleaning stations along public stream/lake accesses, I think it is a waisted effort because all it takes is the right conditions and a few living cells on the webbed feet of one little ducky to start the spread of any aquatic invasive species. All these danger/warning use precaution etc. signs our not only a waiste of tax payer moneys filling some greedy deep pockets,What is even more amazing is the fact that there are sick minded individuals who dare it to happen! I do everything i can from allowing to spread but in truth, it remains unstoppable.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 09:14:19
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I know I seen ditmo signs in the delaware river system and the esopus river in the catskill mts of new york.. those nasty little zebra mussels are starting to encroaching a few more lower lakes and read they are in the hudson maybe the deli too but not certain yet. But aside from the fishermans waders, I believe the water birds carry it from lake to stream to lake via their webbed feet.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 10:56:12
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the "felt bans" are marketing ploys to sell boots wrapped in the guise of environmentalism
total BS
fully dry your gear... store in a cool dry place... spray with a diluted bleach solution
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 11:40:49
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Funny, I was thinking the same thing, it is about greed and filling deep pockets in these new security agencies popping up everywhere .. nothing or nobody is going to stop or even slow down invasive species imho.. these species been here alot longer than us anyway!It is ironic to say the least, "we are the invaders" outlawing Felt waders or even fishing would be very foolish..like dropping a light match in a dey forest imho.. ticketing or trying to discipline fishermen with rediculous regs. will more than likely increase the spread!.. imagine anybody fined for wearing wader felt boots or fined for any reasons associated with the uncontrollable invasive species will not bode well for society.jmho
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 14:37:39
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I tested a pair of one of the more popular brands of rubber soled wading boots last year. They didn't cut it on the limestoners in my area. I went swimming more times in them in those 3 months than I ever did in all my years of wearing felt.
After I looked close at the boots I realized even though the felt was gone there were still plenty of materials on the boots that could carry didymo, like the laces, mesh, and the cloth inside the boots.
If you ask me the feltless boots are going to give us a false idea that we can't spread didymo through our boots. The only good option at this point is to dry and treat your waders and boots, or to have an extra pair to wear only in affected water.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 14:56:05
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I see a distinct parallel between the rubber soles and the higher end companies that produce them. It seems that those companies have more vested in these new and invasive-proof products than others.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 15:39:51
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I'm not buying new feltless soles for helping a nunch of diddyhomos rip me off..there is absolutely no way to stop this invasive aquatic algea from spreading..the migratory water foul will spread this stuff faster than enforcing any product these conartist could ever think up!Not to mention how easy it is for anybody who feels threatened to just get it over with to nullify such game rules.Once every body of water is contaminated with didymo and zebra mussels, it won't be a big concern.. bsides, this is really natural.. there truely is nothing invasive about organisms that have existed ions before humans. I say let live and let love! lol
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 16:21:23
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I say DIE IN A FIRE! JEEBUS- ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID PEOPLE??
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 16:28:20
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 16:31:38
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you know Onorato had all dem geese gassed from Nurth Park
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 17:16:52
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hey sal, what do really think the end result will be? Here's a link http://www.dec.ny.gov/environmentdec/45398.html the water fowl case is indisputable ..fishermen waders are not spreading this stuff as fast as the birds living in the stuff.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 19:53:27
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I didn't see any mention of birdies spreading it. Kinda odd it's only being introduced where people fish frequently.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 20:09:27
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I heard /read it was brought over on the waders by flyangler/anglers from Australia.. i seen it on youtube.. But, from this point on,the little plant cells will spread much faster by migratory water fowl. It will spread didymo regardless what you read and how you understand it,, I learned the hard way not to trust or believe what is printed by big money ..espcially the media on tv.. this is about filling some deep pockets imo. lol the day i need to worry about getting fined for wearing fishing gear or not washing my equipment is the day i do something about it.
post edited by backin79 - 2009/12/15 20:17:59
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 20:49:17
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Here's the latest document http://www.dec.ny.gov/pubs/53542.html.. the thing with didymo is that just a few microscopic cells hitching a flight on a canvasback,,stalk..osprey..you get my meaning? the feltsoles might contribute the spread of didymo but the reality is that it is now here to stay and will spread naturally over time.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 21:00:04
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Yes they are "natural" organisms. In their country of origin, they have other predators or natural checks and balances for most of the "exotic" species invading North America today to keep and maintain the balance. Does NA have these checks and balances? NO. That is the concern. These critters will upset and are, changing our natural order here. How to stop it? I agree with '79. Just about impossible. Sooner or later it will get around from natural "carriers". Birds can and Do spread lots of things. Ever hear of a person making a pond and stocking it with a few species of fish and then having other species in it? Little duckies carry eggs from other waterways into the pond. Can we slow the invasion of say, rock snot? Very possible. Slowing the spread can give our biologists more time to come up with a solution to the problem. You guys are absolutely right on with the boot felt conspiracy. Wading shoes are a problem with transferring it. You rarely hear about it in outdoor news media. I don't wear wading shoes, I have boot felts. I do soak them in a ~20% bleach/water solution in a spackle bucket for a half hour or so after fishing in NY waters when I get home. I'm in the bathroom longer than it takes me to "detox"(?) my waders. I'm not a total "greeny" or an "Al Gore", but I would hate to see the critters from NY invading the little back country pocket waters I fish around here. EDIT: Thanks for posting the updates.
post edited by Over the Hill - 2009/12/15 21:05:06
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 21:13:00
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ORIGINAL: backin79
...I learned the hard way not to trust or believe what is printed by big money ..espcially the media on tv.. this is about filling some deep pockets imo. lol the day i need to worry about getting fined for wearing fishing gear or not washing my equipment is the day i do something about it.
dude stik your head out of you shell once and awhile next you going to start talking about obama working with the UN to take away "our guns" ORIGINAL: Over the Hill
 I agree with '79. Just about impossible. Sooner or later it will get around from natural "carriers"....
thats like using "well she'd get pregnant at some point" in a****defensive ...try again
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 21:59:52
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wtf are you talking about anyway? crawl out from your own shell, It is going to spread with or without our shells and there is absolutely NOTHING you, me or anyone is going to do about it. And that negative attitude certainly won't help slow the invasive species.But I agree with Hill too in that we should just do our best until it is no longer a concern.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 22:22:56
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/15 23:26:35
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KJH: quote:
ORIGINAL: Over the Hill
I agree with '79. Just about impossible. Sooner or later it will get around from natural "carriers"....
thats like using "well she'd get pregnant at some point" in a****defensive ...try again KJH: How can you prevent birds/animals/mother nature herself from spreading it? Seariously? I don't understand where your going in that comment.
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/16 05:06:00
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WOW..........I WAS JUST PUTTING SOME INFORMATION OUT TO BE SEEN AND CONSIDERED..DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD CAUSE SO MUCH BICKERING............
GOOD THING I DIDN'T SAY OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST OR SOMETHING LIKE AL GORE IS RIGHT........
LOL
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/16 06:36:13
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ORIGINAL: Over the Hill
KJH: How can you prevent birds/animals/mother nature herself from spreading it? Seariously? I don't understand where your going in that comment.
it was 1/2 joke and 1/2 serious...
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/16 08:50:43
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I have seen so many signs posted along didymo infested waters in the last couple seasons.. i use my simms stocking and the matching simms felt boot.. I carry a 10% solution of h2o.bleach in a spray bottle i leave in a milk crate with my other tackle. The funny truth is that I know as a fisherman how a one celled living organism such as this didymo is going to spread regardless what we are being lead to believe in a small print. Sure it disgusts me all to hell how this rock snot just came about in recent years.. but there is no way to stop this micro organism from spreading if you think about how quickly and easily it can hitchhike from one water system to another with the wildlife. Hill , reminds us of psss articles examplifying fish eggs from water fowl hitching a flight to some remote pond.. check out a ducks feet close up, these webbed feet have plenty of passenger seating for a one celled living didymo.. so why believe a "blame all the felt soles" article? lol really..it will be what it is going to be, don't tie yourself in a hairball and get so defensive kjh, And flag ?.. I think this subject is worth bickering! good morning too all!
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/16 08:58:37
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RE: DANGER TO PENNSYLVANIA WATERS...DIDYMO
2009/12/16 10:19:57
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OVER THE HILL Some people are like slinky's; not really good for anything, but, they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs...
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