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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 09:02:46
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Brownie, but nice markings !
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 09:06:58
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There is indeed tiger trout escapees on both streams mentioned, but that is a brown trout on the posted Pic.
As far as I know, the PFBC no longer stocks tiger trout. Any tigers that are caught in a PA delayed harvest are fugitives. Given the two streams mentioned it is certainly more than believeable.
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 11:39:15
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Any tigers that are caught in a PA delayed harvest are fugitives. Escapees in what sense? That they literally got out of the hatchery or they were a stowaway on the truck?
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 11:55:20
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See what produced when they raise trout to adulthood in hatcheries. Mutants. 
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 12:12:31
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BROWNIE....I caught one similar to that on the Juniata River. Nice Fish still!!!!!
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 13:05:18
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ORIGINAL: Cold
How bout some GPS coords?
Hahaha 
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 18:24:10
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yes. escape from the hatchery, or stream in which stocked. not a stowaway.
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 20:05:45
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ORIGINAL: Loomis
As far as I know, the PFBC no longer stocks tiger trout.
Really? Just talking Delayed Harvest areas, or any body of water the PFBC stocks?
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 21:10:21
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Got this guy this morning, nice fish, but i noticed that from this fish's pectoral fin to its tail it has similar markings as the brown showed, and yes loomis it was a great day to have a camera, thats why i always carry, no buddies to take my pretty lil pic today so the fish will do, measured a hair under 21 inches 
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 22:43:54
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ORIGINAL: Mr.Slickfish
ORIGINAL: st. croix
def a tiger...no question about it....came from upstream.....
no
Private Fishing clubs exist on Loyalhanna and Meadow Run. The fish in the Yough was from Beaver Creek Anglers. The first fish is definitely a tiger. I have caught about two dozen of those over the years and have even stocked them in my pond. Tiger trout rarely have spots.
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 23:15:56
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i just caught my first tiger trout sunday it was my birthday and it was a great gift for me a 21 inch tiger trout out of lil mahoning   sorry i was by myself and couldnt get very good pics of it, it was floppin around...
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Cold
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 23:25:52
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That fish isnt too bright...I think I got the same one Saturday...by my measure net he wasnt quite that big, but that net called the brown I got tonight a hair under 16 while the tape said over 17. Anyway, my Little M tiger... 
post edited by Cold - 2009/06/01 23:26:34
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 23:42:26
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i had a tape with me and it was like 20.75" it was really like yellow
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Cold
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/01 23:45:19
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Yup, orange on the belly, faded to yellow up the sides. I didnt tape him (should have), the measure net is great for a quick estimation, but for a fish like that, you want specifics.  There were two in the pool, but I believe the other was female. What'd he hit? 
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 12:15:08
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he took a light cahill nymph... a white one real late... but there was a bigger fish in there but i couldnt get him to hit anything
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 12:42:59
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ORIGINAL: flyfisherman22
he took a light cahill nymph... a white one real late... but there was a bigger fish in there but i couldnt get him to hit anything
Mine hit an albino nymph...I'm seein a trend here...  Maybe not the same fish, but they definitely had alot in common.
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 12:52:05
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Cold I have some of DT's Albino Nymphs They are VERY VERY VERY Productive
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 14:08:50
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cold & flyfisherman,
check out the mirrored "B" behind that red spot on both of your fish, looks pretty identical
I have been seeing a lot of Light Cahills coming off right before dark for the past two weeks, but they are progressively getting smaller with each day. Does this mean they are near their demise? Have had good luck on the top, but may try some nymphs this evening.
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 17:30:38
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You sure they're not paler sulphurs? I've been seeing some sulphurs that are like...the color of creamed corn. You may have been seeing the invaria and/or rotunda before, and now are seeing the dorothea, a totally different species. Even if they're not sulphurs, a major size difference, from what I've bene learning, means different species, not the end of their hatch, so thats good news! PS. Definitely not trying to sound like an expert, I've just been asking alot of questions like that lately, and from the answers I've gotten, I think I'm starting to think on the right track. Also, good eye! That 'B' pointed to the ventral side, just behind that blemish or birthmark, or whatever. I'm pretty convinced its the same fish now. Also check out that scar just behind his right eye, in front of the gills.
post edited by Cold - 2009/06/02 17:32:52
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 18:42:02
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how cant u tell thats a brown? looks nothin like a tiger
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 18:42:19
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The bottom jaw is also very similar, same fish
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 19:11:13
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yeah Berzansk...I talked to the man and he said you are seeing pale sulphs.
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/02 23:38:40
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ORIGINAL: Loomis
yeah Berzansk...I talked to the man and he said you are seeing pale sulphs.
dude i'm here whenever you have a question about fly fishing. no problem.
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/03 13:06:21
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I knew I should have consulted Loomis, the genesis of fly fishing, and his associates, before making such a bold statement.
Dru, you have no room to talk w/your absence lately... for real
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/03 22:10:28
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Brown trout, but know of guys who have caught some tigers out of Loyalhannah
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/04 07:33:14
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FF22 we have the same B-day. Never caught a tiger trout, but if I ever do I'll get some pics, they are pretty cool looking.
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/04 09:53:07
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ya it was nice to catch one... and it was my bday so it was just like wow... umm ya it was one of the prettiest fish i have ever caught and it was my first one... but i hope not my last
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/04 10:31:39
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Ask Jim Halupka how to catch brown trout during a light cahill hatch, he catches ones like these on the regular. Also ask him about doing curls, cuz his biceps are huge. [img]  lolol
post edited by Loomis - 2009/06/04 10:38:49
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/04 10:48:54
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RE: brown trout or tiger?
2009/06/04 10:58:12
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ORIGINAL: anadromous
So the fish is the same fish...markings identical, but whose tape measure is off???? :)Â Â
Probably mine, I just have the inch marks on the bottom of my net. Zero in the middle. Just add the inch mark at the head to the inch mark at the tail for an approx. length. I'll have to take a tape to the net to see if it's off. The fish was over the inch marks on each side, meaning it was over 18", but I wouldn't want to be accused of telling a "fish story". I'll tape the net and get back to ya.
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