Fishing the Salmon River.

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/19 20:12:03 (permalink)
 JLG:
welcome and thanks for asking such great questions so you may be a successful angler
i will offer advice but this is only from my perspective which has made me be a successful angler

i'll get some easy answers out of the way first, you asked about camping:
i would recommend Selkirk Shores State Park,
the campgrounds is on the lake, reasonable rates ,cabins available and nice place. i stay there quite often
This link is to make reservations (not necessary except for cabins they book quick)
http://www.reserveamerica.com/ny/Selkirk_Shores_State_Park/Campsite_Map/r/campgroundMap.do?page=map&agency=NY&parkId=82

now you ask about equipment:
a 9' 8wt is the normal set-up for both salmon & steelhead, i'm going with a 9wt for all my salmon outings this year
personally i notice a big difference in the extra backbone on kings
but an 8wt is fine and works well on steelies as well
use a leader starting with a 20# but section of stiff mono,after that i alternate between 12# down to 10# mono for my tippet
no need for fluro at all, just use a softer mono for a more natural drift on your tippet
i use weighted streamers and add bb or b shot if necessary
if you know how to fish than there is no need to go heavier with weight
learn to cast up stream and mend if you are having trouble

now to me salmon fishing is way different than steelhead fishing
for salmon find staging areas and places where the fish will rest before being "pushed" to the next resting place
AVOID what i call sucker holes, these are deep pools where lots of fish are "trying" to rest/hide
this is also where you will see lots of people "trying" to fish(ok!)
a salmon will move and rest until being forced or needs to migrate up stream
you will see a fish hold a position then be forced out by an up coming fish, to me this is a prime spot for a fish to attack a fly, it's a natural instinct to attack

there are a number of good "creeks" to the north and west, most depend on rainfall to get a good run of fish to enter
however no other river gets the volume (& people) of fish than the salmon river
oswego gets a huge volume for it's short 1/2 mile distance but man that to me is to much combat fishing (sorry folks)

at any rate good luck and hope you enjoy the time on the water


post edited by hot tuna - 2007/07/19 21:30:56

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/28 18:34:58 (permalink)
september 8 through Halloween are my work hours meaning fishing comes first, work girlfriend everything else second. I Pin so as far as tippets i use 12 lb leader either cortland or p line. U might loose some fish this way but the snaggers will get u anyways. Nice weight for the kings, youll need some talent to land em with this poundage but if u know wat ur doing its a personal victory and as an added bonus you'll have more hookups! turn them to get them in.... you will learn.. Fresh skein is key! GOOD LUCK WITH UR WIFE!!!! As far as hot spots i have my own that i could only tell u under the barrel of a twelve guage. Salmon River or Oak Orchard are good starting points. just dont think that the people in these areas are the ones to listen too. most of them are homegrown snaggers.
GOOD LUCK
I PIN TO WIN
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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/28 20:28:11 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Steely Hunter
just dont think that the people in these areas are the ones to listen too. most of them are homegrown snaggers.
GOOD LUCK
I PIN TO WIN
RICK


That is a pretty brash/ ignorant statement. I know a lot of people that live up there and you couldn't be farther from the truth.

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/29 03:41:51 (permalink)
I don't know many locals, but the ones I do know preach against snagging.
You use 12 lb. on a pin? The reason I ask is I taper to 10-12 lb. flouro. for Salmon and I'm flyfishing. In fact on 12 lb. I've yet to have one break me. This is why I usually go with 10 lb.. Easier to break off if one happens to get fouled.
Just curious. I thought pinners went lighter?

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/29 09:51:33 (permalink)
Salmo:
whats your reasoning for using flouro on salmon ?
at $12.00 a spool esp. since you say you'll be breaking it off on a foul hooked fish (which is the right thing to do)
don't you think a soft mono tippet would make it easier on the pocket ?
 
BTW: i use flouro on steelhead at times, just not salmon 
 i haven't found a need to since they strike on aggression
 

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/29 10:20:39 (permalink)
Tuna- I use Rio Flouroflex in all my fishing. I have a hookup- I get 50 yard (not the 25) spools for $10.95. I have been using it exclusivly for about 7 years. It doesn't nick up, and it has a nice satin finish. I am not a beleiver in shiny leaders and tippets. And of coarse the main reason is because it's virtually invisible...
Peace
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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/30 00:09:06 (permalink)
salmo,where do you buy that rio in the 50 yd spools?
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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/31 07:37:05 (permalink)
100 yard spool of mirage $24.95 ,not bad since they reformulated it.Ray

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/31 08:02:23 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: pafisher

salmo,where do you buy that rio in the 50 yd spools?

 
Pafisher .. I think Sal has a "hookup" -- naw meen. 
 
You been out to Indiana at all this summer?  I hear they're pretty loaded up with skamania's.  Going to get wwarm the next weee or so.  I'm headed to Michigan in two weeks for summer runs, or whenever it cools down, if it ever does.  Someday maybe.
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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/31 17:25:24 (permalink)
Silver,my daughter now moved to Hudson Ohio,so now I'll be exploring that area for Steel.Went there in April to the Rocky River and brought some to hand and lost a bunch because the Seaguar Gran Max was snapping on me.Now I'm looking for new tippet material,think I'll give the Rio a try.
Indiana is now out of my plans,really did n't care for the streams and now that my daughter is n't there with the free lodging doubt if I'll ever get back.
Ray,two months and counting for the Salmon time at the SR.Since we will be there for the same week it should be quite a time!
Salmo,got your e-mail,thank you.
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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/31 19:23:49 (permalink)
Pafisher-


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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/31 20:00:56 (permalink)
Ray:
are you talking tippet material or spool fillers
there is a difference between the 2

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/07/31 22:23:19 (permalink)
Tuna,tippet material ,100 meter spools not yards my mistake $24.95..PA/Jack saw your e mail only used  the mirage for salmon fishing does a good enough job not any cold water usage yet..My first choice in 4x 3x steelie stuff is Rio fluorflex plus followed by frog hair I quit grand max 3 years back no luck in cold water/air..Ray

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/08/01 16:59:11 (permalink)
RR-
You like the frog Hair? It's too shiney and slippy for me. I had trouble with it slipping knots. I tried it when it first came out. Maybe it has improved? I should state my knots never slip on flouroflex.

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/08/01 17:23:12 (permalink)
salmo,frog hair is okay never have a problem with knots with it..flex plus is my favorite just enough give before it breaks and a gray cast to it never liked the regular flouroflex though.Ray

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/08/01 18:57:53 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: racinray
 I quit grand max 3 years back no luck in cold water/air..Ray

 
Same here.
 And some people thought I was crazy.
 
Frog Hair has been kind to me, sofar.

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/08/01 20:14:15 (permalink)
Cool- I use the original flouroflex and is best for me.
If I meet any of you up there feel free to ask for a sample.
RR- I have 2 or 3 spools of the plus laying around I think. If we meet up you can have them. I don't care to use it.

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RE: Fishing the Salmon River. 2007/08/01 22:08:42 (permalink)
Sounds goos Salmo,I'll be up week of oct 2nd till fri.,we all can hook up somewhere like a few of us did last year,nice to put some faces to screen names.Ray

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