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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/13 15:21:48 (permalink)
Greg Olsen would be the best president, but Tom Brady is pulling a CIA move, and sniping him down so he can take over
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/13 16:29:48 (permalink)
I’m guessing there could be some dirt dug up on him from his days at the U. Not that any of that seems to matter like it used to.

There seems to be a lot of talk of Brady going into politics. Not sure if it is all joking or not. If that guy had every single policy in agreement with me, I’d still have a hard time casting a vote for him to be president. The guy not only got to play a game for a living, but considered best at it. And that “living” is like 30 of my livings. With a smokin hot wife that makes twice as much for icing on the cake. Sorry, but that guy is more out of touch with the reality of the average person than Trump and Biden combined. He definitely took Trump’s “you’ll be sick of all of the winning” literally. Mahommes is right there with him now in that regard.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/13 18:49:17 (permalink)
I like Collinsworth on Sunday nights. Most always accurate and does his homework for a few days before each game and I think he's really good at reporting on every player. Romo, meh!!! He is a QB lover like they're the only ones in the game, and he makes no bones about which team he's pullin' for in every game in his broadcasts. I'd rather listen to the Fox announcers than Romo. Are you guys old enough to remember Dandy Don Meredith and Howard Coselle on Monday Night Football?

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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/13 19:27:03 (permalink)
I remember Cosell, but mostly just his voice and what he looked like. I was ten when he wrapped things up. He was an iconic figure. Probably saw him more in highlights than live though.

I don’t hate Colinsworth, but he clearly doesn’t like the Steelers.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/13 20:41:11 (permalink)
That's 'cause the Steelers had his number twice a year playin' the Bengals back in the Dynasty days! He was a great wide receiver.

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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/14 09:29:31 (permalink)
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That's 'cause the Steelers had his number twice a year playin' the Bengals back in the Dynasty days! He was a great wide receiver.


Cris played 1981-1988....those weren't exactly the good ol days for Steelers. 
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/14 10:39:31 (permalink)
Yeah, his first years were facing some of the remaining steel curtain. He maybe lined up against an aged out Mel Blount a few times. Woodruff was a good player on a not so good team and likely had some battles. Woodson was drafted in 88 after Collinsworth’s prime, so doubt mad about him, if they even played against each other. It was an LA Ram that ended his career with a leg injury. I’m betting just a general dislike for division rivals. It was a time before many rules protecting WRs. So very well could have taken a “Burfect” hit or two from some Steelers, which was a normal unnecessary roughness flag at most at the time, but he remembered it a bit more personally?
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/14 11:20:51 (permalink)
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I like Collinsworth on Sunday nights. Most always accurate and does his homework for a few days before each game and I think he's really good at reporting on every player. Romo, meh!!! He is a QB lover like they're the only ones in the game, and he makes no bones about which team he's pullin' for in every game in his broadcasts. I'd rather listen to the Fox announcers than Romo. Are you guys old enough to remember Dandy Don Meredith and Howard Coselle on Monday Night Football?


Yes I am. Boy, those were the days. Dandy Don to the best if my memory would say "Turn out the lights, the parties over."

"If someone offers you a breath mint, take it.
 
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/14 21:26:26 (permalink)
We should have put this football stuff in '23 NFL thread. Save this one for our political nightmares.

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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/15 06:58:42 (permalink)
We’ll need to get a 24 NFL thread started. Draft talk will be starting soon. Until salary cap moves are made and FA market is a bit more clear, the draft discussion is moot.

I guess similar could be said with Trump trials and Biden being committed to a nursing home on the political side of things. Still a chance we have two better options. Even then, Congress is filled with far left and right whackos that do whatever they can to disrupt instead of negotiate.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/15 16:56:31 (permalink)
Let's bring it back to politics and all that fun.

The problem is the guns. It's the guns. 
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/15 17:39:31 (permalink)
On the Hunter Biden front.... Special Prosecutor charges informant with lying about Bidens' connection with Burisma.

Whodathunkit. 😅
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/15 20:14:12 (permalink)
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That $5M a piece for Hunter and Joe in '15 n '16 be like.

😆😆😆😆😆 so much winning.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/16 13:32:15 (permalink)
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Let's bring it back to politics and all that fun.

The problem is the guns. It's the guns. 




Weird, all my legally purchased guns stay locked in the safe where i left them....seems like the person behind the gun in these liberal cities is the problem
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/16 14:27:16 (permalink)
I wonder if williamanderson will chime in?
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/16 14:46:09 (permalink)
Who here thinks the Super Bowl was rigged, raise your hand
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/16 16:36:23 (permalink)
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Who here thinks the Super Bowl was rigged, raise your hand

Super Bowl was fine. Every game the Stillers lost since 1975 had been rigged though.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/16 19:07:38 (permalink)
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Let's bring it back to politics and all that fun.

The problem is the guns. It's the guns. 



Weird, all my legally purchased guns stay locked in the safe where i left them....seems like the person behind the gun in these liberal cities is the problem



Bad guys with guns kill more people than bad guys without guns = guns are a problem
 
The facts show the conservative population has a higher murder rate than liberal population because they own more guns, are poorer, and are less educated.
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/16 19:55:46 (permalink)
When a drunk driver kills somebody it’s the drivers fault not the booze or the car. When a gunmen kills somebody it’s because of the guns not the shooter unless they’re wearing a badge then it’s the shooter not the gun.   Why is this???   

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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/16 20:23:56 (permalink)
I just am so thankful some "good guys with guns there to protect" stopped it. OH wait. 
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/16 20:25:25 (permalink)
Also 355 million more. 

Another big L for the Orange man. That's your boy though!
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 01:25:40 (permalink)
Plus 9% interest puts that judgment up over $400M. 😆. The sons have to pay $4M each. And the best part of it is none of them can do any kind of business in NY state.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 08:01:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby crappiefisher 2024/02/17 11:46:36
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Let's bring it back to politics and all that fun.

The problem is the guns. It's the guns. 

I know you were half joking in this comment, knowing it would spark debate.

My opinion on this. Guns are not the issue. Violence using guns is. I think it is important that the debate is framed that way. Guns for sport, self defense and whatever other nonviolent use needs to be preserved.

Gun violence also needs to be broken down into different categories. The most concerning to many is the mass shootings. Most of these are attention seeking. I feel the best way to address this is to avoid lumping it together with guns overall or even lumping it with gun violence as a whole. These attention seeking mass killings are different than gang/drug violence shootings or domestic violence shootings or premeditated murder shootings. The school mass shootings are much more similar to those that drive cars through crowds, bombings or stabbing sprees, than they are to gang bangers shooting up their rivals house/car.

These attention seeking mass shootings have so many other components than just guns and the choice of guns used. All of these components need to be dissected and discussed. It isn’t just “mental health”. It is a component, so is bullying in most cases as well as the award that they are seeking in the first place of the legacy our media outlets give these POS’s. Among many other factors. There needs to be some consensus and some concessions in the gun culture to admit that certain guns are a component. But framing this as those guns are the issue and banning them will solve the issue does nothing more than divide. Which seems to be what both sides are just fine with or we would have this issue framed in a way that a resolution could be achieved.

Other gun violence has different components. A magic wand can’t be waived and solve them all. Domestic violence is a complex issue in itself. Gang/drug violence are complex issues in themselves. Guns no doubt are a link between them. When looking for a device for INTENTIONAL (key word) violence, guns are by far the most effective. Drunk driving is not intentional violence. These are all separate issues and need to be addressed separately, or they will never be solved. But again, I have a feeling that is the intention of our divisive political “leaders”.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 09:39:55 (permalink)
350 million

lol

Lmao even
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 11:23:33 (permalink)
Guys in their 60's and older where I live talk about bringing their guns to school on the bus and keeping them in their lockers for safety ed classes or so they could hunt their way home after school.  Until the late 90's, every student in the high school that had safety ed fired guns on school property and earned their Hunter Ed certificate.   
 
In the early 90's, many of my classmates and I brought our guns to school to hunt after school, and kept them in our vehicles.  
 
Nobody ever got shot.  
 
But yeah, it's the guns.  
 
Kansas City incident looks like 2 juveniles were the shooters.  How many felonies do you think were committed before the shooting started?  What do you think the over/under is on number of times they've been previously arrested?   We'll probably never know, or at least won't know for awhile, because the facts don't fuel the narrative.  
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 11:28:10 (permalink)
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Bad guys with guns kill more people than bad guys without guns = guns are a problem
 
The facts show the conservative population has a higher murder rate than liberal population because they own more guns, are poorer, and are less educated.
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem
 




 
lol, what a great study!  
 
Whaddya think the granular city and county data looks like in those states?  
 
 
 
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 12:17:04 (permalink)
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Guys in their 60's and older where I live talk about bringing their guns to school on the bus and keeping them in their lockers for safety ed classes or so they could hunt their way home after school.  Until the late 90's, every student in the high school that had safety ed fired guns on school property and earned their Hunter Ed certificate.   
 
In the early 90's, many of my classmates and I brought our guns to school to hunt after school, and kept them in our vehicles.  
 
Nobody ever got shot.  
 
But yeah, it's the guns.  
 
Kansas City incident looks like 2 juveniles were the shooters.  How many felonies do you think were committed before the shooting started?  What do you think the over/under is on number of times they've been previously arrested?   We'll probably never know, or at least won't know for awhile, because the facts don't fuel the narrative.  



I don' think anyone brought their AR-15 to school in the 60s.
 
You are trying to make this a "black and white" lssue.  Liberals do not want to ban all guns, they just want reasonable gun laws put in place to prevent the felons and mentally ill from obtaining guns.  I know you will argue that those gun laws already exist, but the NRA lobbyists have put so many road blocks to prevent inforcement.  Police depts from state to state are not allowed to share stolen gun data. Red flag laws are a great idea but how many states actually have them.   Anyone can buy a long gun from a gun show or private individual without getting a background check.  I could go on but you already know the facts.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 15:41:57 (permalink)
Did your reasonable gun laws prevent the Kanas City shooting? those laws you speak of are already on the books but it didn't matter did it.It's not the gun its the lack of prosecution.for the criminals not a particular gun. Liberals don't want to ban all guns just the scary black one forgetting their seldom used in shootings just ask the thugs in inner citys they all use pistols don't they professor.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 19:26:38 (permalink)
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Guys in their 60's and older where I live talk about bringing their guns to school on the bus and keeping them in their lockers for safety ed classes or so they could hunt their way home after school.  Until the late 90's, every student in the high school that had safety ed fired guns on school property and earned their Hunter Ed certificate.   
 
In the early 90's, many of my classmates and I brought our guns to school to hunt after school, and kept them in our vehicles.  
 
Nobody ever got shot.  
 
But yeah, it's the guns.  
 
Kansas City incident looks like 2 juveniles were the shooters.  How many felonies do you think were committed before the shooting started?  What do you think the over/under is on number of times they've been previously arrested?   We'll probably never know, or at least won't know for awhile, because the facts don't fuel the narrative.  


I’m sorry, I’m really not trying to make personal attacks and insult other posters. Like I’m really trying to keep things civil.

But the ideas expressed in this post are straight up bonkers.

Lots of people drive drunk all the time and manage to never get into a car accident. That doesn’t mean it’s safe or a good idea. It just means they got lucky.
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Re: Trump 2024 2024/02/17 19:45:23 (permalink)
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Did your reasonable gun laws prevent the Kanas City shooting? those laws you speak of are already on the books but it didn't matter did it.It's not the gun its the lack of prosecution.for the criminals not a particular gun. Liberals don't want to ban all guns just the scary black one forgetting their seldom used in shootings just ask the thugs in inner citys they all use pistols don't they professor.


Remember a few weeks ago when three armed service members were killed in Jordan and Ice Nit all the right wingers wanted to crucify Joe Biden for allowing it to happen? Remember how much value that conservatives placed on the lives of those Americans?

Fast forward to the next mass shooting and suddenly the value of American lives isn’t so important anymore because apparently the world will stop spinning if republicans can’t have completely unfettered unregulated unrestricted unlimited access to all the guns you could ever dream of getting your hands on.

I mean cmon, as far as politics goes I honestly don’t care that much about guns. I care ALOT more about a lot of other issues like unions, and environmental protections, and healthcare… but the logical inconsistencies and the nonsense that right wingers argue when it comes to these issues just BEGS for criticism. And it’s so especially apparent when it comes to guns.
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