Somehow, I just knew they were gonna blow it. Oh well, there's always next year.

Well that's the end of that era of pens hockey. Having been a pens fan since I was 10, I sure hope the next few years are not like the late 70's/early 80's or the late 90's/ early 2000s. Those teams were brutal.  

got to look at the positives, more free time for the garden in the evenings...(when I can fit it around running daughter to work, son's lacrosse and dek hockey practices/games).  Guess I better enjoy while I can, both will be in H.S. next year and sooner than I think, off to college.

eyesandgillz
got to look at the positives, more free time for the garden in the evenings...(when I can fit it around running daughter to work, son's lacrosse and dek hockey practices/games).  Guess I better enjoy while I can, both will be in H.S. next year and sooner than I think, off to college.

Got dat rite on all fronts. Girls graduate '22 '24 n '26. I swear they were just 8, 7 and 5 yrs old🤯

snagr
On the plus side, I'll have free room and board at my daughter's place in Charleston now, so I can go catch redfish any time I want.  

That is what I call a well raised kid!

Coupled with Fettermen beating Connor Lamb and Summer Lee in the lead, guess it shows that the true middle is almost gone. SmH.

snagr

eyesandgillz
Guess I better enjoy while I can, both will be in H.S. next year and sooner than I think, off to college.

Don't blink.
 
One just graduated from college and is moving to Charleston, SC for work.
One will be graduating high school in 3 weeks and is going to Charleston, SC for college.  
Got one that I don't know how got to be 12 already.  
 
On the plus side, I'll have free room and board at my daughter's place in Charleston now, so I can go catch redfish any time I want.  
 

Love Charleston and Savannah.....hopefully the one that is moving will have a spare bedroom for you guys so your visits won't be too cozy!  You'll need a place to store all your saltwater gear....makes even Erie trolling fishing/gear pale in comparison.  Pretty darn hot and steamy though in the summer.....only way I tolerated TX was being close to the coast and spending all my free time at the beach or out on a boat fishing....
 
Daughter will be a Jr. and my son a freshman next year.  Time does fly.  
 
Sounds like you need to buy a 16' skiff/bay boat on a trailer and keep it in gated storage down there.....umm....have gas $, will assist!  
 
Speaking of beach any ya'll ever been to Amelia Is., Fernandina Beach area in northern FL?  Fam. wants to try there in late June so we are looking for last min. bookings.   Still "driveable" from here and the fam wants to try somewhere other than the Carolinas this year.  Destin/Miramar Beach just a bit too far for us to drive.

eyesandgillz
Destin/Miramar Beach just a bit too far for us to drive.

Allegiant Air flys to Elgin AFB for cheap. Although last minute, probably not so cheap. Same thing with finding a place now. NE FL is still one heck of a drive. I could convince myself, but I struggle doing NC drive for a week stay. I hear it is nice there though. The only east coast Florida beach that I have heard being strange, was near Palm Coast, where there are big rocks in the surf. Probably good for fishing structure, but family might not be appreciative for swimming and beach use. Also any of the urban beaches. I’d imagine fishing pretty typical of most summer fishing. Morning and evening have some options, midday is for hanging out with the family on the beach. The back side there looks like it would have a lot of oppertunities for reds and trout.

Double post 

eyesandgillz
 
Love Charleston and Savannah.....hopefully the one that is moving will have a spare bedroom for you guys so your visits won't be too cozy!  You'll need a place to store all your saltwater gear....

Well, she's going on a travel nursing contract, so she'll probably be able to afford a pretty nice place with lots of room.  She's got expensive tastes and she'll be making significantly more than my wife and I combined.  
 
When we visit, I'll probably be fishing more backwater than on the beach, and I've got the gear for that.  Two rods and a small backpack are about all I need.  My son will have a couple months in at Charelston Southern by the time we go for Thanksgiving or Christmas, and he's pretty much going to school there to major in duck hunting and fly fishing for redfish - and minor in accounting and finance - so he better have some spots to share with me by then.  

I take the Rust signing as a message. He could have commanded 6.5-7 on the open market and instead chose to stay. 

If Rust can take less, Geno and Letang can too. I hope they move on from Letang, but it is what it is. He's going to likely want a bit more than his recent contract, but his age and play time are concerns I wouldn't give him more than 3 years. Or Geno. 

I say sign Geno 7.1/3 years. sign letang the same if he wants it. The Center market isn't great, and a 2nd line center ain't gonna come from within. 

snagr

eyesandgillz
 
Love Charleston and Savannah.....hopefully the one that is moving will have a spare bedroom for you guys so your visits won't be too cozy!  You'll need a place to store all your saltwater gear....

Well, she's going on a travel nursing contract, so she'll probably be able to afford a pretty nice place with lots of room.  She's got expensive tastes and she'll be making significantly more than my wife and I combined.  
 
When we visit, I'll probably be fishing more backwater than on the beach, and I've got the gear for that.  Two rods and a small backpack are about all I need.  My son will have a couple months in at Charelston Southern by the time we go for Thanksgiving or Christmas, and he's pretty much going to school there to major in duck hunting and fly fishing for redfish - and minor in accounting and finance - so he better have some spots to share with me by then.  

Well, we pivoted back to SC and Kiawah Is.  All booked up for later in June.  5 min. walk to the beach, 5 min. walk to the Kiawah river on the back side....lots of freshwater ponds stocked with "perch" and bass we'll have access to...just need to dodge the gators....and $250 credit towards beach gear rentals.  4 bikes will take up $200 so the rest may go towards a tandem kayak rental for the week....should make for some fun...just need to see if I got the gear to rig up a kayak cart I can "tow" behind the bike!  I am sure I'll look like quite the redneck, down there esp. but don't care....I resemble that persona up here anyways...  Now, I just need to figure out how to get my surf rods back from my brother...he borrowed a bunch of my salt gear for his FL trip in April and so far, only got my gear bags back.

awful news out of Texas. Last I checked the death count was 18 kids, 2 adults. 

Will 18 be enough for largescale change this time? 

BloodyHand

DeadGator401
awful news out of Texas. Last I checked the death count was 18 kids, 2 adults. 

Will 18 be enough for largescale change this time? 

Arm the teachers???
 
BH

Maybe. The Buffalo Shooter and the now Texas Shooter, both bought their Assault Rifles - weapons capable of immense damage in a very short amount of time, completely legally. 

Maybe we oughta make it a bit more difficult to purchase such items? 

The two shootings are completely different IMO.  I think both would have ended up resorting to use a car or other if no assault rifles available.  Do I think they should be a little harder to get, definitely for people like these monsters, but how do we know?  I am not sure if it stops the TX massacre and most likely not the NY massacre if assault rifles aren't as easily available.  That NY guy had a lot of planning, that he could have easily replaced assault rifle with a car barreling through a crowded area of black people or other.
 
Maybe it is about time that we bring back state hospitals?  I believe this was mentioned a few years ago, but no traction.  There has to be some sort of mental illness for anyone capable of killing their grandmother that raised them, then innocent children after.  There are kids in just about every school in America that we as a society are too chicken chit to "be insensitive to mental illness", that we turn a blind eye to them as future mass murderers.  It is almost impossible for public schools to have a kid with any sort of "learning disability" to be removed from their school.  No matter how disruptive or how threatening they are to others, beyond actually striking students/teachers on MULTIPLE occasions, then often back in their school a year or so later.  Don't get me wrong, not every kid with a learning disorder should be shipped off to a state hospital or other special school.  But there clearly are some that should not be covered by this.  Many that are in public schools are a clear threat in the making, forced to stay in these schools.  They are likely being left out of things by their peers and even picked on by some, turning their already unstable minds to violence.  Maybe this TX shooter was or wasn't this type of person, but many mass killers fall into this category and many times their peers are not surprised at all by their actions.  These people should have absolutely no means to any firearm.  I'm sure there are laws on the books that prohibit already, if not, there should be.  I would have no issues with Federal agents and others scouring social media posts, seeing they possibly have firearms, and being put in state hospitals or prison if violating.  Those supplying should be held responsible too.  Parents of these kids, I feel for, I really do.  But to give them access to firearms?  There has to be some other activity that you can get them into that doesn't involve the child having any sort of access to a firearm. 
 
The Buffalo one is definitely different.  This falls on the shoulders of white nationalism being normalized beyond the secret back room meetings of the klan and others.  Being spread on social media and other more mainstream media now.  In his mind and many others, they are told they are fighting a war and actions like this are justified.  Possibly mental illness has this person to the point of taking action like this?  These type of massacres have been happening for years.  Timothy McViegh and others have been in this "war" or similar "wars" for years before it was normalized like it is now.