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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/05 15:52:13 (permalink)
Yea that's a total joke stocking those Trout up in that section 3 of the river. Terrible access , slower flowing, no decent parking, more obstructions in water and along banks. It basically has nothing going for it. Why they don't just continue stocking the lower river like they did for over 40 years just makes common sense.
 
 There's no way those Trout will pick up PCB's the short time they are in that lower river section. Hell, probably most are lucky to live two weeks after they are stocked! They act like those stockies live for years ! Besides just put out an official warning limiting eating Trout just like Erie fish if they are so worried. They still stock smolts in Erie and they all come back years later loaded up with carcinogens.
 
Your right BTDT most will wash into the lake fast and never be seen again....what a waste of good money and time ! 
 
They need to do a study to prove those stockies contain "any PCB's" after released....I'll bet it will be near zero ! Where's the biologist report on that study ????
 
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/05 20:22:30 (permalink)
They use trout for striper bait on Raystown, so all those trout that wash into Shenango will become prey for the wipers, and the Northerns and the Muskies, and ....oh, wait! My bad!

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/05 20:59:56 (permalink)
Be needing a trout stamp to fish Shenango within five years. The PCB issue was a smoke screen to end the stocking below the dam and begin dumping all the excess trout above the dam year round eventually contaminating the lake with a non-native fish.

Be gettin some things done this summer, to include tossing flys on the mighty Neshannock . Going to hang an out of town sign on the door. Maybe catch yinz on the rebound.

Good time and tight lines.
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/05 21:42:16 (permalink)
Great now I have to go back and buy a trout stamp for the crappie run, the predators should be pretty well fed this year.
Not buying this pollution story this water has always had warnings what changed?
 
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/06 10:51:47 (permalink)
Yea they were suppose to do a more intense follow up study as to why and where the PCB's were coming from. We know they are industry related, problem is most industries along the lower river are gone or the few left have been complying with federal water regulations for years. Still remains a mystery as to why a sudden elevation in fish now ! 
 
The river has such strong high flowing currents almost year round it's hard to believe any chemicals can survive that steady flushing out of water. One can never tell by looking, the river flows very clear, has a huge Caddis hatches every year, and fish appear to look very healthy in all species. After all Trout have been stocked here for over almost fifty years steady without issues ! To top it off about 40,000 people drink the water from here daily after being processed from the Aqua Water Company !  
 
One year later and still no answers or new information .
Is it worse ? Better ? Same ?
Still testing fish ?
How many species tested ?
Can PCB's enter into stocked fish that fast ? 
What sections of river tested worse ? Lower Shenango must be well over thirty miles long from the dam on down past New Castle.     
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/06 17:02:08 (permalink)
For years Westinghouse put a lot of PCB's into that river from it's transformer business. The Hudson River had a similar issue and efforts were made to clean up the river however PCB's are heavy and remain a problem. I always enjoyed fishing that stretch of river. You never knew what you would catch. You would think the heavy flow of water below the **** would reduce the pollutants in that area.
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/07 05:08:13 (permalink)
I can't believe there doing that that's stupid ruin another good fishing area

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/07 05:17:09 (permalink)
That section is all frog water basically instead they should just dump em off main street bridge threwout Greenville I know slot of old heads that's gonna **** off who don't trout fish not to mention the extra crowds it's gonna bring now the dutches can poach trout with there 14in out of season walleyes

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/08 09:50:06 (permalink)
They seem to not be sure where the PCB's are coming from. Westinghouse did get the blame years ago, but also they did share a massive clean up bill on the Shenango River. They actually dredged tons of river bottom out years ago. Not saying they cleaned it all out, but I'm sure they test water and fish species every so often. Just seems strange that the elevation in fish has increased even higher even though most industries along the lower Shenango has decreased highly over the past years. Seems the water tested by Aqua Water Co. is within PCB acceptance to drink to all it's Shenango Valley customers. So the questions remain where are they (PCBs) coming from, and why now the higher increase in fish ?   
 
One year later and still no good info or reports, just the shutting down of all stocking of fish by the PBFC. I guess our Federal and State biologist are stymied or don't care !  
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 08:16:53 (permalink)
Shenango River Lake added 12 new photos to the album: Stocking Trout in the Shenango River, 3/29/18.17 hrs · 







The Pa. Fish and Boat Commission, volunteers, and Shenango staff stocked trout in the river on Thursday, between Big Bend and New Hamburg. Anglers are reminded that trout will not be stocked in the outflow of the dam or points downstream, due to a "Do Not Eat" advisory from both the DEP and Pa. Fish and Boat Commission for all species of fish caught in the river below the dam only.
 
 
Visit Shenango River Lake Facebook for more exciting info.

 

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 08:25:42 (permalink)
Them fish are probably in the lake by now , pfbc really knows how to ruin a nice stretch of water now it will be polluted with cans and worm containers

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 08:45:18 (permalink)
Don't be surprised to see the survey nets in the lake later this year.

Few years we be needin a "trout stamp" to fish the lake. Maybe even a "Shenango River Lake" stamp.

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 09:31:50 (permalink)
They will get there I have caught trout down by big bend bridge that come from Greenville , from bbb isn't far to the lake at all

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 09:33:23 (permalink)
I need my fishing license trout/erie/shanango river lake combo please gonna be just like hunting license carry 3 ft of plastic paper around

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 10:24:10 (permalink)
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I need my fishing license trout/erie/shanango river lake combo please gonna be just like hunting license carry 3 ft of plastic paper around



A/K/A..... the (plastic) paper trail.😉

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 12:51:17 (permalink)
Yea those Trout won't stay put too long in the river with all the flow we had. Hope they stock some triploid trout next, at least when they get in the lake they can grow to 20lbs plus !
 
BTDT they had nets in Shenango last year and never said a word as to what they surveyed . They were spotted up near the 10hp area last spring, but all was kept hush ,hush. 
 
Same goes for the Walleye stocking report on Shenango last year. Wilhelm & Shenango show no Walleye numbers stocked in 2017, what's up with that ? They told my buddy they stocked but why no numbers in the reports. All the other lakes are updated on their site. Then they wonder why you don't trust what they say or do ! No transparency, no information on certain issues. They act like it's top secret !
 
  
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 13:42:40 (permalink)
Captain, I remember guys sayin' last year that they were  trap netting Conneaut, but the only trap net file I could find on the PFBC site for that lake, was from 2012. (I'm still learnin' how to negotiate that site). Maybe we're just years into the future before the commish decides to publish? (Dang, maybe we need to pay them more for a biology report)???

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 13:45:37 (permalink)
I hear you Captain but the surveys conducted in the future will be for, trout survival.  If you recall, when the PFBC stopped stocking the river below the dam with Walleye, they started stocking "everybody's favorite sport fish".... the trout.   Well now you know why the lake hasn't been stocked with walleye.  Pending the survey results, (survival rates) "everyone" will have a new lake in which to fish for their "favorite fish".... the trout!!!
 
 
BTW.... that was a dandy Perch! 

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/03/31 14:35:28 (permalink)
Tried to post the latest biologist report (2014) for Shenango River Lake but it is in PDF format soooo instead of converting it to JPG, here is the link to "all" the biologist reports.  Hopefully
 
http://www.fishandboat.com/Fish/Fisheries/BiologistReports/Pages/default.aspx
 
 
Read and weep.  

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/04/06 11:28:19 (permalink)
                                   
 
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The courtesy docks at Mahaney Rec Area, Shenango Rec Area and Clark Rec Area have now been placed at their respective boat launches. Also, the public restrooms at Mahaney Rec Area and Shenango Rec Area are now open. We will be opening the Clark Rec Area restrooms on May 1st.
CURRENT LAKE INFORMATION:
Pool Elevation: 895.43, which is 0.76 feet above normal summer pool
Sluice Gates 1 - 7 are open to 2.5 feet each
Sharpsville River Level: 5.86 feet
Transfer River Level: 3.79 feet
8am Air Temperature: 34 degrees
8am Water Temperature: 43 degrees
Weather: Cloudy/Light Rain
 
 
                 
For current lake details and other important information, please call our daily recorded message at (724) 962-4384.
 
 
 
Are the pellet heads up ta da docks yet??? 
 
OOOOOPs silly me, forgot  "NO" Spot Burning!!!!
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2018/04/06 12:08:10

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/04/25 10:04:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby crappiefisher 2018/04/25 11:28:00
New news from the PFBC regarding Shenango effective 01/2019:
 

Also, Commissioners approved the designation of Shenango River Lake in Mercer County as a panfish enhancement water for crappies. The change reduces the creel limit from 50 to 20 per day and creates a 9-inch minimum size. The change is intended to boost the population of white crappie, which has been decreasing since 2010, and increase the size of both black and white crappies.
A 2017 survey of 138 anglers showed that 89% of those who identified themselves as crappie anglers preferred the 9-inch minimum size limit and 71% preferred a 20 per day creel limit. The change will take effect on Jan. 1, 2019.
 
 
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/04/25 17:48:39 (permalink)
I'll be darned, that there is somethin.

Maybe the PFBC has finally realized there's more than just trout that requires proper management.

Plus anglers do fancy, catching ediable fish.

By chance, any such changes in line for Wilhelm, for the near future??


Thanks for taking the time to post the info.


😱What...... Wait, is there whispers of "Crappie Stamp" in the hills of Pennsylvania???
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2018/04/25 17:51:49

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/05/04 11:11:01 (permalink)
Ramps at Shenango...
Do Big Bend, Hartford Landing or Parkers Landing have docks?  Or are these only for very small boats / yaks etc.  I'v got a little 17 foot fish and ski.  Wondering if I can launch from any of these or just the main 3 rec areas?
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/05/04 12:30:05 (permalink)
No docks at Hartford, Parkers, or Big Bend.     Mahaney is the better choice of the three sights with docks/ramps/parking,  Shenango Rec Area (requires a steep uphill walk back to the parking lot) and may be shallow to some trailers and watch the stupid curb that runs along the edge of the ramp out into the water, it has claimed a few props.   Clark is subject to closing due to flooding so use of the Rec Area may be needed, unless you wish to make the drive to Mahaney.   HOWEVER, none of the boat docks are near the ramps which will require you drive/launch off your trailer, wade/use waders or have, one hellllllllll of a long bow rope.  Sooooo, Hartford or Parkers may work just as well.  Although, I'm not sure of the parking situation, at those two sights.
 
Hope this helps with your question, good times and tight lines.

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/05/08 22:10:02 (permalink)
Finally ! One year later the PBFC releases the 2017 Shenango biologist report from the nets they put in last spring ........and as usual Shenango Lake got shortchanged on the Walleye stockings past several years.
 
  http://pfbc.pa.gov/bioreports/bio2018/1x05-07-ShenangoLake.pdf
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/05/09 18:52:14 (permalink)
Guess they don’t realize there’s already stunting going on from the number of small fish competing for food. Good luck with the new regs.
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/05/11 17:33:54 (permalink)
Thanks for posting that link Hook. Interesting reading. Never saw how they surveyed fishermen at the dock included in a report.
So next year I'll see what the results were of this year's Wilhelm assessment.
Good to know.
I'll stop nagging them
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/05/12 12:59:00 (permalink)
Yea , MD they don't move very fast on field or lake reports ...but one year ? Come on ...with todays high tech gadgets those should be released in a month or two ! And even at that they are still guessing.... I'm OK with that.....because they only had the test nets in one small area of the lake. I guess some survey catching and testing is better than none at all. I see our lakes are full of Quillbacks / Carp Suckers.....seems their numbers are highly increasing...foul hooked a few over the years. 
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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/05/12 16:00:36 (permalink)
chauncy
Guess they don’t realize there’s already stunting going on from the number of small fish competing for food. Good luck with the new regs.



Chauncy has hit the nail on the head. Pa.'s regs are stupid. Since (by the trapnetting), 96% of the Black Crappie are up to only 9.9 inches, that means roughly only 4% can be harvested. Also by the numbers, the ratio of Black Crappie to White Crappie is approximately 8:- -1:. So you have a lake with thousands of stunted fish. Keep harvesting the 9" + fish and soon all the largest breeding stock will be gone. Take all the keeper White Crappie and the same thing will happen. Most other states protect the larger breeding stock with slot limits. It works for them. Don't know why it wouldn't work in PA. 

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Re: SHENANGO RIVER LAKE 2018 2018/05/12 16:51:21 (permalink)
90% the fish crappies I catch from the lake are -9" its roughly 60% or better on the day

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