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2008/02/06 08:31:14 (permalink)

Overbite Steelie

So I caught this guy over the weekend and he was just goofy looking with a huge overbite.  Just weird looking!  He was also beat up -- looked like bite wounds.
 

 
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    TB
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 08:50:48 (permalink)
    Poor b*stard never stood a chance running the gauntlet.  The reason why you don't see more like this is b/c they usually get kept earlier in the season.  This one just happened to get lucky a couple of times - or unlucky..
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 08:51:12 (permalink)
    thats pretty ugly man, looks painful.  im comin up this weekend if ur gonna be around ill call u i got a new rod to try out
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 09:14:38 (permalink)
    lampray?
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 10:25:19 (permalink)
    Does anyone have any idea how many fish run the streams, and never make it back to being healthy enough to run again the following season? Doesnt look like a lampray mark to me, not real sure tho
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 10:33:15 (permalink)
    looks like the ice tore him up to me i saw many fish like that in a local stream after the hard freeze last year
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 10:51:25 (permalink)
    Grappler - I'll be around this weekend -- call me and we'll hit the streams. 
     
    I don't know if it was a lamprey or not -- it kind of looked like the skin was almost rotting right where the holes are.  Could have been from a lamprey but wasn't sure.  He had one more small hole in his other side also.  Lamprey wounds are usually pretty circular -- the hole closer to this steelie's head is a little odd-shaped but who knows.  He was released to swim again...
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 11:20:50 (permalink)
    Gang fight. A brown trout shanked him.
     
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 11:28:57 (permalink)
    snaggers?
    i've come across a few trout now and then in streams through out the commenwealth. i believe these are trout that got away from a hawk or kingfishers talons. it looks like the marks above the side wounds tends me to believe it got away from something from above it. if it had a single scar on the other side this would make me more believe it was from a hawk or something to that nature.
    post edited by doubletaper - 2008/02/06 11:59:06

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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 12:09:41 (permalink)
    That does seem plausible DT. Especially with the V shaped briusing and looking like it got dashed off of rocks, like a bird dropped it.
     
     
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 12:46:45 (permalink)
    Looks like talon marks to me.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 12:56:01 (permalink)
    yea but what bird is able to pick up 6 pound or so steelie...especially around here...i know there are some eagles but i highly doubt one of them did that.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 13:50:48 (permalink)
    It might have been bigfoot but you would have to ask Mikastorm to be sure.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 14:17:30 (permalink)
    By the looks of the bite radius it could be the work of the Northern PA Sasquatch

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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 14:28:39 (permalink)
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 14:34:30 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: psbfisher11

    yea but what bird is able to pick up 6 pound or so steelie...especially around here...i know there are some eagles but i highly doubt one of them did that.

     
    I've seen a bald eagle cruising Elk Creek no more than 40-50 feet above the creek.  No question in my mind he was cruising for steelhead.
     
    That damage does look like claw marks to me too.
     
    Could also be ice flows, something like a chunck of ice pinned the fish against a ledge and carved a chunk of its skin out.
     
    Could also be scrapes from clearing out a redd.  Scrapes from the gravel bottom.
     
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 14:55:13 (permalink)
    This fish was from 20 mile -- but talon marks I'm not sure of.  Those other darker spots above the wounds seem like they could have been about to do the same thing as the wounds below (you can see the same dark pattern around the outer edges like the skin ate itself from the center out). 
     
    I personally think it could be some sort of bacteria growth or something that was literally eating away at this steelie.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 15:13:47 (permalink)
    His Momma was a nurse shark.

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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 15:21:12 (permalink)

     

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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 15:49:30 (permalink)
    There is quite a few eagles around the Erie area.  I have a camp in Lake Erie Community Park and there is 3 eagles that fly by and often perch in the trees right along shore in the camp ground.  So I wouldnt rule out an eagle or some other bird of prey.
     
    But who knows what it truely is.  Guess the only way to find out is to catch it again and have a biologist look at it.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 16:41:12 (permalink)
    Eagle picked him up, then realized he tasted like schiesse.

    Tippy i think your right though.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 18:07:10 (permalink)
    Poor fish coulda used some neosporin.

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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 21:55:50 (permalink)
    looks like a bite mark from a canine.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 22:04:14 (permalink)
    Looks a lot like talons to me......I would be more inclined to guess Osprey, but I have never seen many up there and PGC does not list it as one of thier known nesting areas.  Anyone else ever seen one?

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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 22:21:50 (permalink)
    sure looks like talons to me.  the open wounds from the sharp ends and the black line above is just missing scales that were rubbed off.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 23:34:44 (permalink)
    should of kept it more then likely it wont survive the season. Prime fish for a trade.

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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 23:47:04 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: kyler16

    should of kept it more then likely it wont survive the season. Prime fish for a trade.



    Why do you say that????  Maybe the one you got in return would be worse...

    Besides I doubt that Gary would allow that to happen
     
    BTW This is one of those times

     



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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/06 23:53:17 (permalink)
    Why say that? because the fish's flesh is visible which means open sores for bacteria.


    Everyone ive gotten back ive never had a problem. I traded one that was terrible (not with poor richards) to a guy who pickles his said the meat was fine. I prefer smoked and wouldnt risk it. 

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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/07 10:24:09 (permalink)
    lol dude kyler think about what you just said.  "the fish's flesh is visible which means open sores for bacteria." your basically inviting a trade in for a fish that could potentially have bacteria??? if someone brought that fish to me i'd have to refuse them.   Erie streams arent clean man, no matter what anyone says.  My friend got sick from eating a fish that came out of 16 mile, not saying it was infested with bacteria, but the context of the stream COULD have had somthing to do with it. This fish comes out of 20 mile, what happens if all that agricultural runoff that 20 mile recieves has some sort of bacterium from cow crap that infects this steelie then spreads to the smoked fillet you trade in?  Chances are this thing will die within a few weeks anyways, let the thing take out its life course and perhaps provide food for the small amount of macro/micro invertabrae that the tribs do have.  I would refrain from trading fish in with open sores like this.  Its just a breeding ground for bacterium.
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    RE: Overbite Steelie 2008/02/07 11:33:12 (permalink)
    All of the tribs should be treated as if they were contaminated.  Sixteen mile has a bad rap because of a waste water treatment plant, but guess what there are waste water treatment plants that discharge into Elk and Walnut as well.  In fact, several  years ago over 5 million gallons of untreated sewage was dumped into Walnut.
     
    It is best to keep the creek water from any of the streams out of your mouth.  Besided bacterial diseases such as shigellosis, you  are more likely to encounter a little critter called Giarda.  These little parasites can really put a kink in your intestines.  Here is a link to an article about Giarda - http://www.cdc.gov/Ncidod/dpd/parasites/giardiasis/factsht_giardia.htm
     
     

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