How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman

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2012/02/26 00:35:44 (permalink)

How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman

First year w/ my cousin and I with his 90's model 18 ft Ranger 692 Fisherman. What is the highest wave report that we can safely fish the lake with this vessel? It has a 150hp. We will be bass fishing and trolling later for eyes.
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    Bogeyjoker
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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 00:45:16 (permalink)
    Was out in 8 footers with Lovgren's Ranger although 19 ft. I think...still thriving...
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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 06:18:12 (permalink)
    I'm sure if your like most people with some common sense your boat can put up with more than you can. I know what I'm comfortable with in with my boat and it's still floating so obviously what I'm comfortable with is less than what my boat can handle, but I really don't want to find out what the worst my boat will handle is.

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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 09:09:12 (permalink)
    I never went out in 8ft'ers but have came back to dock thou them many times.  2' to 3's is about the most I will go out in any boat 20' or less.

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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 09:28:04 (permalink)
    No offense bogey, but anybody out there in 8 footers in a bass boat is insane, just sayin'

    Were you fishing or praying to make it back?

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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 10:32:56 (permalink)
    I think the 692 is their semi v. multispecies/walleye boat. Not really a bass boat.
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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 11:02:22 (permalink)
    While safety is the number one question, and always should be, a second question comes to mind -- Even if it were safe, at what point does it stop being fun?  I would bet that the fun ends well before safety becomes a factor.

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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 11:52:15 (permalink)
    Remember this thread, and some of the comments about these guy's stupidity...

    http://forums.fishusa.com/Tuff_ol_boat/m_453518/tm.htm

    On the internet, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion!
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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 13:01:07 (permalink)
    I am very familiar with the boat Bogey is referring to and it is actually a Ranger 690, which is very similar to the 692, and as E&G stated it is a multi-species boat, not a bass boat.

    Based on my experiences as a passenger on said boat, these have been my observations:

    - Less than 3', no problems
    - Steady 3-4', it is tolerable, but uncomfortable.  Plan to get wet.
    - Steady seas greater than 4' is when IMO it becomes a safety issue; don't go out

    These are merely my opinions and I would recommend playing it on the safe side until you get some experience under your belt on the big lake.  Another thing to bear in mind; the wave reports do not always provide the most accurate forecasts.  To supplement the NOAA wave forecasts, keep a close eye on wind direction/velocity forecast and understand how they impact lake conditions.
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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 13:27:04 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bulldog1

    No offense bogey, but anybody out there in 8 footers in a bass boat is insane, just sayin'

    Were you fishing or praying to make it back?



     
     
    Yeah, it's a walleye boat, but does have that bass boat look to it.  We started in 2' or less with a forcast building to 1-3's.  We were finishing fishing in 5 footers that built to 6's & 7's with the occassional 8.  I wasn't really worried, but it was a long, wet trip back to port.  As someone who is used to fishing out of larger high freeboard vessels...I have to say I was pretty impressed how that boat handled heavy seas. 
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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/26 20:05:10 (permalink)
    Just don't get caught in a situation like this. This is from the gulf of Mexico, which is very similar to the great lakes, esp, Erie, as far as wave action and sudden storms go. The fisherman had a lot of experience and he was in a 31'cape horn with a self bailing cockpit. it is big boat with a lot of flare.



    This is from a different forum I'm a member of, and is NOT me....

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    I really dont want to type this, b/c frankly, I'd rather not think about it, but my experience and recommendations may save one of your lives someday. So here goes.?

    Artie(Rudeattitude) and I left Grand Isle,LA Friday morning for a
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    n easy day trolling for wahoo approx 50 miles offshore. Forecasts were reasonably good-10 knt winds with 50% chance of light rain, then a cold front moving through Friday night--not to worry though, we'd be back 6-8 hours before the front was forecast to come through.

    The day was uneventful with just a few Amberjack to show for our efforts we turned north about 2:30 to run home. It was raining lightly, and had been for a few hours. Seas were light (1-3). Roughly 1/2 way home the rain got heavier and heavier, but oddly enough the winds were getting calmer and the seas were slick. As the rain continued to get heavier, with visibility down to less than 1/4 mile, and the radar totally whited out with rain we came across an oil rig to take cover behind and ride out the rain.

    As we're idling on the lee side of the rig the winds suddenly increase to 15, then 25, the 35, and within 3 or 4 minutes we're being hammered by winds in excess of 60mph steady, with gusts that were deafening. I'm doing my best to keep the boat behind the rig, as it knocks the wave height almost in half. No more than 5 minutes later, the seas have built to an extremely angry 6-8' BEHIND the rig and I'm really struggling to keep the C Monster tucked in.

    In literally the blink of an eye, a huge gust(maybe 70+) picks up the bow of the boat andangelsm throws me from behind the rig out into open water----broadside! Before I can move we are crushed with a 10' wall of breaking water on the starboard side rolling the boat virtually 90 degrees. I can see nothing...

    At this point, I'm commited to the fact that the boat is rolling over and my only thought are to grab the ditch bag and decide which side of the boat I heading out of. Miraculously, the boat rights itself, and I pull myself and Artie off the floor in time for the next wave---again right over the starboard side. This one didn't roll us, but broke into the boat, which is now calf deep in water, broadside to yet another 10' beaking wave.

    I gather my wits, give a huge WTF to Artie and hit the throttles. Somehow, both engines sprung to life and popped us on plan instantly, shedding the majority of the water. For this 30 seconds or so I'm running beam seas in 8-10s with the wind continuing to build, we're in full panick mode. There's another rig(a really big rig) 1/4 mile away in the direction we're turned, but I know I can't sustain 1/4 mile in that beam sea, so I point the bow into the wind and spear the very first wave---again we're calf deep in water. Throttle up and brace myself for the next one, they're coming every few seconds.

    I'm yelling at Artie to call the CG with our position, and let them know we are in dire straights. 3, 4 , 5 calls go unanswered. Then we try a radio check---no answer. We fight 60mph winds head on, taking every third wave over the bow. the winds would blow us nearly vertical off the top of each wave, I just know the right wave and wind gust is coming and we're going over.

    As a last resort, Artie digs out the hand held VHF in the ditchbag and hails the coast gaurd. After 4 or five tries I hear the best thing I think I've ever heard--CG New Orleans. We relay our position and the nature of our situation, let them know that we are currently making 10 mph, but didn't think we could sustain any increase in the conditions, which for the last 15 minutes have only gotten worse. At no point in this ordeal could I see more than 100' in front of me---total white out. CG says to maintain radio contact, which we were able to do for approx 2 min. then we lost them.

    5-10 minutes later, we hear them hailing us on the handheld and again realy our position. They monitor us every 3-4 minutes for the next 1/2 hour---conditions still the same. An all out battle to keep the boat going into the waves, slamming down the backs of 12 footers only to have the next one break over the bow, bilge pumps working overtime. Every wave I'd throttle up and by some miracle the engines were there every time. After a while, with no improvement in our situation, the CG asks if they can realease us as safe, b/c there is a capsized vessel in our area with men in the water. I surely didn't feel safe, but I wasn't in the water and realized they needed the radio channel for the rescue operation. After over an hour, the rain stopped and the winds "died" to a mere 30-35knts and left us with a seemingly more managable 6-8' sea state. At this point we tuck tail, and beat our way back at 15-20 mph for the remaining 15 miles.

    We hit the pass--call the CG as they instructed to let them know we made it in. My wife and kids were standing at the dock waiting on us, knowing we came through a terrible storm, but the don't know and will never know how close we were to not returning. We were inches from rolling the boat into 55 degree water and 50 degree air temps. I've never been so tired in my life.

    I'm not telling this story for sympathy or being dramatic, but to tell you what we did right and what we did wrong...

    Lesson 1. there's no way to prepare for the speed in which bad stuff happens. Despite the fact that the ditch bag and liferaft was on the leaning post, I could not have grabbed it when we rolling. There's no way.

    Lesson 2. never go with out an epirb---I mailed mine out last week to get the battery replaced(it expires this month) and haven't received it back yet. I was dead without it. The only time I've left the dock without it in the last 8 years--think about that for a second!

    Lesson 3. MUTIPLE VHFs!!

    Lesson 4. Boats can't be too big

    I'd like to say we should have called the CG earlier, but it literally went from dead calm to nearly upside down in 5 minutes or less.

    I should've had my kill switch on--I never leave it off, but for whatever reason I didn't put it on this time.

    respect the weather--this was the most innocent looking storm I've come across.

    Know that you can't survive if you're in the water in the winter--plan accordingly.


    Sorry it's so long, maybe Artie will add in his thoughts--he and I haven't talked about it yet.


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    Lovgren69
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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/27 22:35:09 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Bogeyjoker

    Was out in 8 footers with Lovgren's Ranger although 19 ft. I think...still thriving...


    And I'm sure after that weekend excursion you told yourself never again will I do that...

    And at least now I know the limits of my boat...Those were probably the largest waves that I've had to navigate in my 4 years of fishing the lake.!

    Greenhead, I am the guy with the Ranger 690 that people on the post are alluding to. Mostly everything that has been said echoes what I would tell you. Esox sums it pretty good when with his words:
    - Less than 3', no problems
    - Steady 3-4', it is tolerable, but uncomfortable. Plan to get wet.
    - Steady seas greater than 4' is when IMO it becomes a safety issue; don't go out.

    I usually won't knowingly go out if there forecasting much more than 2-4's. I've been out alot of times in plenty worse and it can be wet and miserable in this size/style boat.

    The biggest thing is to be carefull, pick you days accordingly, and always have all your safety equipment in order. Make sure you have a working VHF radio in case you every need to radio other boats for help.

    The lake can pick up in a hurry. Like Bogey mentioned, this past year we went early in the am for a tournament and the lake was almost like glass. We got about 10-12 miles out and about an hour later all hell broke loose--rain coming in sideways and thunder/lightning all over the lake. Some of the lightning was so close we swore that we going to get struck. We eventually made shore, but we couldn't outrun the storm- we just had to slough through it. The storm passed, we went back out and the lake wasn't that bad. Throughout the day the waves kept building-first 2-3's turned into 4-5's, and by the time we pulled our lines we were looking at steady 5-6 waves with some larger 7-8 footers mixed in. We got in without too much trouble, although it was a little wet and whiteknuckled at times!

    Another thing to consider too is your experience level driving this boat. If you've never driven your boat in larger waves akin the Lake Erie you will want to take time to learn how your boat responds, and what things that you as the drver can do to make your ride smoother, drier, and easier on your passengers. I've been doing it for almost 5 years and I'm still learning things. The best way to learn obviously is by getting out there and getting your feet wet. Just be safe out there....You might want to consider tagging along with an experienced captain, or consider piggybacking your trip with another boat, so you can kinda follow along in your boat with a more experience captain...

    I usually make about a dozen or so trips up during late June, July, August. If you ever want to meet up, I'd be glad to let you guys follow me around the lake. I'm actually real close to pulling the trigger on a newer 19ft boat, so I'll be itching to get it up on the lake...

    Hope that helps...

    Matt
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    RE: How high water w/ Ranger 692 Fisherman 2012/02/27 23:01:46 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Lovgren69


    ORIGINAL: Bogeyjoker

    Was out in 8 footers with Lovgren's Ranger although 19 ft. I think...still thriving...


    And I'm sure after that weekend excursion you told yourself never again will I do that...


     
    Lol...like I said...the waves didn't bother me...the many lightning strikes hitting a few hundred feet from us (and everyone else sprinting in to port) in the morning was a little unnerving though!
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