Confusion on trio reels

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2012/02/05 19:39:57 (permalink)

Confusion on trio reels

Alright, so i'm extremely confused about the issue of these okuma trio spinning reels. I was very excited to learn from this website that the models 65a and 80a were orange (preferred color) and that they had the highest max drag of the trio reels AND they had my favorite handle (the doorknob style) but when i went to the actual okuma website i was dissapointed to see that they only listed trio spinning reels up to 55 standard and 55s and none of them had the doorknob style handle that was shown on this website. I was wondering if maybe the information on this webiste could be inaccurate?

P.S-I plan to go tarpon fishing off of a pier on vacation and I'm buying a 15 foot okuma tundra TU-150 3 piece rod. If I buy this reel I'm pairing it with that rod and putting 35 pound spiderwire on it for tarpon fishing. Does that sound acceptable?
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    fish whisper
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/05 19:52:37 (permalink)
    65 pound braid, paired with with 5 feet of 40 pound fluro leader. No spiderwire Sufix braid
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/05 20:16:13 (permalink)
    Are you sure? I read that you should use lighter line to feel the true power of a tarpon. And why not spiderwire? they have braided line
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/05 20:30:19 (permalink)
    O.k so i just went to the sufix website and looked up everything you mentioned and it all looks great but i'm not sure of one thing.... how strong is it? i was going to get spiderwire because of its incredible strength and reliability against breaking, but will this sufix line hold its ground? and should i use this trio reel?
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/05 23:13:27 (permalink)
    Spiderwire is more fray-able while sufix keep its round form better. Trust me between the braid and fluro you will have great feel. I use the same right casting for musky using bulldogs and feel every bolder on the bottom. IF you hook into a 100+ pound fish that extra few pounds will make the fight half as rigorous
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/06 06:39:49 (permalink)
    Alright, thank you for the advice i think I'm going to do just that.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/06 11:45:22 (permalink)
    +1 spiderwire stealth is junk. Suffix and power pro are much mo betta.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/06 11:47:27 (permalink)
    My mom landed a aprox 100lb tarpon once on 20lb power pro, but they were in a boat and had to Chase it around for about an hour so she didn't get spooled. From a peir I would def use 50lb+ line.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/06 17:24:48 (permalink)
    I wasn't going to use spiderwire stealth though. I was using the super line invisi-line or something like that. Since sufix braid is so small i was thinking i'd be able to fit a lot of line on my reel but I really do need to fit a lot of it on there so do you still think i should get 65 lb 832 superline sufix braid?
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/06 17:30:26 (permalink)
    And what kind of knot should I tie to join the 5 feet of 40 pound flourocarbon leader to the sufix braid? do i need some kind of joint or is there a certain knot i should use?
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/06 18:17:34 (permalink)
    With the large difference in line thickness, id say either an albright knot or double albright knot would be best. They're pretty easy to tie but just be careful as you cinch it down, it can sometimes turn itself insideout and get all f'ed up. Or use a swivel for the connection. I've never used 832 but have heard good things
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/08 21:02:37 (permalink)
    Seriously, 50lb+ line? I havent fly fished for massive tarpon, but I used 15lb tippet when I did. $50 none of you could break 50lb line if I tied it to the hitch of my stationary truck(with a sound knot) and let you have at it. Most rods would break before 50# braid. I have never chased 100lb+ tarpon, but I still say 50# is a bit much.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/08 21:06:21 (permalink)
    Yep, just looked it up, your tundra breaks wayyyyyy before 50# Something to consider...
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/08 21:49:42 (permalink)
    50lb braid is not overkill if u plan on hooking up with a 100lb tarpon. most tarpon that big are going to be around some type of structure, once hooked guess where they are headed? you need some serious line to keep them from running you into bridge pilings or other structure. 30-50lb braid with 50-80lb floro leader would be my choice.

    one other thing, a size 65 or 80 reel is going to hold a heck of a lot of braid. spool up with some mono first, fill about 1/4 of the spool with momo backing, then tie on you braided line, then tie on your leader. i usually use a uni-uni knot when tying differnt lines together.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/08 23:56:05 (permalink)
    Also with the heavier line make sure you have big enough bait. Small crabs and pilchards won't cut it 6 to 8 inch mullet and if your pier fishing put enough weight to get toward bottom forgot to stress the pelicans could ruin a good day.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/09 07:30:42 (permalink)
    Pwk he's fishing from a peir not a boat, if there's a 100+lb tarpon running towards docks and probably 100 other peoples lines you and everyone around you will be glad the fight doesn't last an hour. I would say 30lb minimum, but 50 or 65 won't hurt, it still casts and ties easy, its braid.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/10 23:43:39 (permalink)
    I get why everyone would want the strongest line etc. but if someone could explain the advantage of 50# line in this case, I would appreciate the education--seriously.

    Ok, this gentleman is planning on using a trio 55 which has a max drag of 25lbs I believe. He is pairing this with a tundra rod rated to 30lbs. In theory, he can only apply 25lbs of pressure before his drag lets up and the fish takes line. In this situation, what is the advantage to line heavier than 30# aside from abrasion resistance? I am all for using heavy enough line to play the fish as quickly as possible; however, I think he should be asking more about equipment than breaking strength. That is what I tried to get at with my original two posts.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/11 06:34:26 (permalink)
    Palm the spool! There's more than one way to stop a fish. Plus if you do get brushed against a rock or piling you still may have at least 25lb worth of line left.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/11 12:31:34 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Invicta

    50lb braid is not overkill if u plan on hooking up with a 100lb tarpon. most tarpon that big are going to be around some type of structure, once hooked guess where they are headed? you need some serious line to keep them from running you into bridge pilings or other structure. 30-50lb braid with 50-80lb floro leader would be my choice.

    one other thing, a size 65 or 80 reel is going to hold a heck of a lot of braid. spool up with some mono first, fill about 1/4 of the spool with momo backing, then tie on you braided line, then tie on your leader. i usually use a uni-uni knot when tying differnt lines together.


    If you are talking braid, the reason I go heavier on my musky rods is that the line is larger in diameter and is less susceptible to digging into the spool when under tension.  I used to use 50# braid and watched several $15 bucktails launch off into the sunset during casts when the line got caught in itself mid-flight.  I never had that issue again when I went to 80#.  Yes roundness plays a part as well, which varies with the manufacturer, but in general larger diameter braids help the problem.

     
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/12 13:16:15 (permalink)
    I've done some more research and I'm going to buy a Penn fierce 8000 instead I just don't know what rod, line, and leader I should pair it with. I'll probably end up using 832 advanced superline 50 lb suffix braid paired with 5 feet of 75 lb suffix fluro invisi-line any ideas?
    post edited by Silentshedow - 2012/02/12 13:17:27
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/12 20:34:14 (permalink)
    And also, the penn fierce 8000 holds 350 yards of 65 pound braid so with 50 pound 832 superline sufix braid I'm only buying 300 yards. I'm guessing that i should line the first 30 or 40 yards with mono then tie that to the braid and put the entire 300yds of the braid on then tie the leader on with an albright knot? And one more question, what brand and lb test should the mono be?
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/13 12:10:46 (permalink)
    I'd say get 50 60 or 80 lb leader but that also depends on the size hook you're using, and possibly water clarity. you'll have a hard time tying thicker leader on a smaller hook. Anything under 3/0 or so depending on brand you may have trouble getting thick leader through the eye. Use a snell knot on the hook and you'll only have to go through the eye once. But getting this specific you may want to go on a Florida based forum. Most of my recomendations have come from local river catfishing experience. I use ande flouro and mono leader material. Mono is much limper and may give you a more realistic presentation and easier to tie knots, but flouro is more invisible underwater and more abrasion resistant. It sounds like your spot on w how to spool it up, just maybe a lil less mono on the spool first cuz you don't want birdsnests from an overfull spool.Arbor knot the mono to the spool, then a few yards of mono(any lb test will do, but its a good idea to keep this heavy if you think you might get spooled) then albright to the 300yds of braid.
    post edited by FishinGuy - 2012/02/13 12:17:22
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/13 12:49:26 (permalink)
    When you say a few yards of mono are you talking 5, 10, 15?
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/13 13:32:14 (permalink)
    5yds honestly should be plenty, as long as you have a solid Arbor knot and you get the backing on good and tight, I usually put on enough to cover the spool, then a couple more cranks.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/13 15:57:40 (permalink)
    Alright thanks! So what is the purpose of the backing? The description for the reel says it is braid-ready
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/13 16:08:08 (permalink)
    It keeps the line from spinning on the spool, I've seen it happen on spinning and conventional reels. If the spool is all aluminum, you need backing. Not certain, but I think some manufacturers are putting rubber inserts on the spool to keep it from spinning, not sure about yours.
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    RE: Confusion on trio reels 2012/02/17 18:45:48 (permalink)
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