tull66 
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30/30 recoil kicks axe
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/23 17:45:45
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I was shooting crows with my Winchester 1300 12ga 3"mag Its a fairly heavy gun with a decent recoil pad. My friend had a single shot H&R 12ga 3"mag with metal butt plate. He shot one of my heavy loads and there was blood weeping out of his shoulder. First time I shot my 454 Casull managed to injure my arm near wrist. A friend of mine that is a nurse looked at it and told me I probably had a compression fracture and I needed to go to er for xrays and probably a splint. No thanks-wrapped in gauze then duct tape. Mike that was with me also shot it and missed 2 days of work because shoulder injury prevented him from lifting his arm above head-not good for an electrician. Next visits to the range went much better-I learned to let my body twist instead of standing stiff like I do with 629 44mag and other toys.
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tull66
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/23 18:08:13
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Shoulda had a thurty thurty I guess.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/23 18:11:38
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Bings, thurty thurty recoil stories go here.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/23 18:29:40
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My wife loved her 30-30 Winchester. She was 5'1" #108 when she started using it. Said she never felt it when she was shooting at a deer but she made me sight it in.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/23 18:49:33
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I've never owned one, but like the rifles the 30/30 made popular. I think the thurty gets an undeserved bum rap.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/23 21:29:44
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Going back 10 years ago i bought my rem 700 chambered .375 rem ultra mag. (i have hopes of going to africa some day) back when rifles were not out of this world expensive.
It took me maybe 6 months to save the money to scope it propperly lep. vxIII 3.5-10. Well playing around shooting shell just to shoot them (at the time before i reloaded, a box of shells were 60$, now over 100$ for 20, i reload for about a $1.xx per shell)
Well i made the mistake of shooting it sitting on my butt in the grass, that scope nailed my forhead so hard it about knocked me out, never agian will i do that. it has close to 80lbs of recoil
Since then only a few people who shot it did not head my warning, it has got three more people who were to "man" to listen to me, haha it was their bagde of honor to walk around with the half moon scar...
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/23 21:59:37
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it has close to 80lbs of recoil That's pretty high for a .375 RUM. What the heck weight bullet did you shoot ?
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/23 22:04:27
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yea, i goy a little ole 300 win mag,it lets you know when your to close too. i think my 12ga. w/ 3inch slugs kicks more though.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 12:49:51
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300 gr bullet, 106 gr powder it calulated out to about 76-78lbs of felt recoil. ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures
it has close to 80lbs of recoil
That's pretty high for a .375 RUM. What the heck weight bullet did you shoot ?
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 14:12:49
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I had bought a used (the first and last) 300 Weatherby Alaskan for an elk trip. The Alaskan was the precurser to the Ulta Light Weight model. The rifle had a break on it and shooting it off the bench was baout the same as hotly loaded 30-06. Just for giggles, I decided to see if it grouped any better without the break. I touched of the first, and only, shot and it was like someone just gave me a good whack in the should, neck, and side of the face with a ball bat. I no longer own that beast.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 14:47:00
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Yea some of those guns can be brutal. Not so easily shot off the bench without a sled. I own a Weatherby Mark V in a 300 WBY Mag and recoil is equivalent to my Remington Model Seven in .308. Size doesn't always matter.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 14:54:37
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ORIGINAL: anzomcik
300 gr bullet, 106 gr powder it calulated out to about 76-78lbs of felt recoil.
ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures
it has close to 80lbs of recoil
That's pretty high for a .375 RUM. What the heck weight bullet did you shoot ?
Ok pretty harsh. Was there some kinda of formula you used to get 70+ lbs of recoil ? Just courious that's all. How light is your gun ?
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 15:13:27
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When I went shooting hogs with my buddy George a few years ago we both brought long range rifles and he also had one of his bigger toys. A groundhog at 50 yards shot with a 460 Weatherby only leaves sauce and fur. His .458 Lott and 375 H&H mag are also brutal to shoot.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 15:20:41
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ORIGINAL: pghmarty
When I went shooting hogs with my buddy George a few years ago we both broth brough long range rifles and he also had one of his bigger toys.
A groundhog at 50 yards shot with a 460 Weatherby only leaves sauce and fur.
His .458 Lott and 375 H&H mag are also brutal to shoot.
LOL at $125. a box for factory ammo that 460 would sit home in my safe. Even handloads are pricey nowadays. Even though his wallet is lighter I bet it was worth the fun ?
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 15:49:01
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The 458 Lott is $150-$180/20 and he needs brass to handload
Not sure about H&H
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 17:24:47
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As a young guy wanting to buy a decent rifle I researched the available calibers and loads and found that the 06 was ( at that time) in all likely hood the best all round cal cause of the many loads available.
While doing the search Outdoor Life did a guides survey article bout the best calibers for all American big game. Wherever the o6 wasn't #1 it was #2 because of the variety of loads and projectiles. Would say that was back bout 1970-or so.
I bought a bolt mod 70 and a few years later went to the Ruger #1. Have never looked for another cal.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 17:36:55
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Got my boy a Marlin 336 with a scope and see thru mounts when he was 12. 5 years later, he was 6 foot 3 and still useing the gun. Shot a big doe that year, and as he walked up to it, it was still alive. Told him to finish it off and ,at the shot, he went down to his knees. The scope, sitting about 2 inches above the line of site, naied him in the forehead. If you have see thru mounts on your guns, check to see that if you have a finish off shot at point blank range, that this can happen easily....WF
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 18:39:37
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http://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp I figured it from this calc. I weighted my gun it was very close to 7 lbs ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures
ORIGINAL: anzomcik
300 gr bullet, 106 gr powder it calulated out to about 76-78lbs of felt recoil.
ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures
it has close to 80lbs of recoil
That's pretty high for a .375 RUM. What the heck weight bullet did you shoot ?
Ok pretty harsh. Was there some kinda of formula you used to get 70+ lbs of recoil ? Just courious that's all. How light is your gun ?
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 18:56:51
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I used a MV of 2800. That fomula is pretty accurate, Thanks for the info. Your rifle weighing in at 7 lbs is a major factor as far as high recoil. I was just courious and a bit puzzled why so high. Thanks again. BTW bought of of your baits, no hookups yet but I like it. Its the large rubber swim bait in white.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 19:04:34
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http://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp 460Weatherby Mag 500gr @2600fps 7.75lb gun Free recoil energy in (ft/lbs) 113.22
I thought it kinda hurt a little.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 19:07:39
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Probaly shook a few marbles loose !..................  Kidding
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 19:15:04
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That's pretty high for a .375 RUM. What the heck weight bullet did you shoot ? Velocity makes the biggest difference.  Mass X Velocity X Velocity/2
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 19:59:44
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When I was 11, my dad took me out to the range to get comfortable with the gun I would be using that fall to hunt deer. The gun was a 20ga NEF single shot and I was shooting Brenneke slugs out of it. Before my first shot my dad warned me that the recoil was going to be a bit more than I was accustomed too with the 20ga birdshot. Well, I got the bright idea that I was going to putt the butt of the stock securely on my bicep. My theory was that the recoil wasn't going to hurt as bad if I firmly mounted the gun against my muscle as it would if I put it against the hard bony pocket of my shoulder Needless to say the next day my arm was black and blue from my elbow to my armpit. At least I know my dad got a good chuckle out of it. I still primarily hunt with a 12ga slug gun and must say that the recoil is manageable, but certainly noticeable after shooting a box of shells off the bench. The recoil of my .270 is barely noticeable to me.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 20:15:21
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I don't care to shoot slugs or 3.5 out of a shotgun unless it's an auto. Girlfriend shot a H&R .270 since she was 12 with no problem. She bought her 870 SP with 3" turkey mags and when the gun recoiled both of her earing's fell off. I was rolling, but concerned of course.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 21:34:36
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Anyone ever shoot one of those H/R single shot 10 gauges. 36" barrel single shot,no weight to the gun with 3 1/2" shells,only shot it once..  Worked better for a canoe paddle. 
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 21:48:00
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Doesn't sound like much fun to be honest...
The worst recoil I have experienced thus far was a 12ga 3" Lightfield slug out of my Mossberg 500. I don't know why I ever let myself think that I needed 3" slugs to kill a 120# deer.
I have shot lots of 3.5" turkey loads and to me they aren't near as bad as the slugs. It must have something to do with the slug being a solid projectile.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 22:34:41
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The worst recoil I have experienced thus far was a 12ga 3" Lightfield slug out of my Mossberg 500. I don't know why I ever let myself think that I needed 3" slugs to kill a 120# deer.
I hate those loads in my Mossberg too. I think I put 2 or 3 of those through my 500 when I first got it. Never again. 2 3/4" Lightfield sabots are far more manageable to shoot, and I've never had a deer so much as twitch after I shot it with that load. What's truly impressive is when I find the slug. Can't imagine what that feels like going through a body. Might be just an urban legend, but I have heard stories (nobody I know personally) of guys getting detached retinas from shooting 3" sabots.
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/24 23:59:21
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Got a 3 1/2 Mossberg camo pump in the safe. Dont have more than a box or two through it. Sometimes it ejects and sometimes it dont - wont even sell it to anybody an its darn near new. Had it fixed and happened again -quick. Got a 40 year old 870 been pounded over the years- shoots great -always did - couldnt even guess how many boxes through it. Never needed one repair or replacement. Not sayin they are all bad but given the choice - 870-----
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RE: 30/30 recoil kicks axe
2011/08/26 15:00:55
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   Got a 3 1/2 Mossberg camo pump in the safe. Dont have more than a box or two through it. Sometimes it ejects and sometimes it dont - wont even sell it to anybody an its darn near new. Had it fixed and happened again -quick.
Got a 40 year old 870 been pounded over the years- shoots great -always did - couldnt even guess how many boxes through it. Never needed one repair or replacement.
Not sayin they are all bad but given the choice - 870-----
Everyone I know that has owned one (Especially the 835) has had problems with them ejecting and jamming....They are Junk...Few of my buddy's are griping about the Benelli Nova's being Junk as well..870 is probably the most reliable shotgun IMO..I own 2 of them.
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