How bout those Mets?

How bout those Mets?

Theyre under .500 and they suck.

Dont blame me, i dont coach or own 'em.

When did they pass that bill that you posted... ???


I asked for examples of where the HSUS did as you said and had laws about hunting changed in Pa.. and you still have not shown even one ... so its not me running or changing the story

I never said that HSUS does not try to do things against hunting., they do, they are anti-hunting, we all know that, it's just in Pa they have little effect...and have not been able to have their way with law changes.

folks have no real good reasons for Sunday hunting except adding a day to kill more game, so after they say that they are done ... so then they turn to trying to make the issue about PETA or HSUS...

HSUS or PETA do not have enough cloud in Pa to have the law changed by themselves... The article dpms posted was simply Sarah's opinion, it does show some good reason to NOT change the law, but HSUS nor hunters have enough cloud to get it changed on their own..

Property owners are the ones who are going to decide IF this isuues moves in congress......

ORIGINAL: wayne c

Any details on that next Sunday hunting hearing dpms? Are they just gonna have scheduled speakers only like last time? WIll it be on video on the reps website again?

 
I did hear that some groups again have been asked to speak but don't know if citizens will have a platform or not.  Haven't heard about the live stream yet.  I hope it is.

I do not mean to paint hunters bad, but I post what I hear and what I feel .. MANY guys(majority)want Sundays because they work Mon-Fri (or Sat) and can't hunt as much as they want to..

Just like you, I have have plenty of time to hunt and do not need Sundays.. but I do not think the average Pa deer hunter has half that time...

Even guys here post about most hunters only hunting 2-3 days in the season, so naturally many would want more time... it is a "selling" point I hear all the time.. maybe that is not what you are hearing.. but I am sure most are hearing that as a reason...

I totally understand your "regulating" approach but I am not buying that as the #1 reason for making Sunday legal to hunt... I look at it as more of a smoke screen.. like some say the 10 point Dr. Alt held up was...


as for regulating... I am sure if the PGC decided we needed more squirrels harvested they could approach the game and fisheries committee and ask for it to be added to what is allowed now, if nothing else just for a year or two..

same with deer, I'll bet if they really wanted more killed and approached they could get them added..


they got the coyotes and crows put on the legal to hunt on Sunday list and probably could get anything else they wanted to have added to the list...

Do you really think if the "experts" asked they would be told NO ???


As many say = deer hunting is still the #1 game hunted in Pa... so deer is what guys want to hunt on Sundays... plain and simple...

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as for the HSUS bull...

every organization I know of has good points and bad points... just because a person supports parts of an organizations positions does not mean they are a card carrying member or "in bed with them"..

Bings supports some of the PGC positions and is totally against others..

so according to his way of thinking he's in bed with the PGC because he agrees with them...

I agree with Sarah's position on Sunday hunting, I agree with much of what they do to protect dogs and cats and livestock...

I oppose their positions on hunting and many wildlife positions..

so how can I be in bed with them ????

OR ===

I agreed with the prez when he extended unemployment benefits this last time... but hate the mandatory health plan.. so which am I ???

In bed and a supporter or not ????

Please direct me to the information that exists that shows non-hunters being hit by arrows from a hunter while pursuing a outdoor activity in Pa.  Has there been one, five, ten, twenty???  Is that number higher than outdoor enthusiasts that have been assaulted, raped, hit by cars while jogging, broke their ankles, drowned etc....

WOW some folks just have to start grabbing for straws.. when the debate is going not so good..

She was silly for adding arrows to that sentence... but notice she did not say fear of or scared of.. she said they have a concern..

I certainly have a concern for stray bullets every rifle season.. don't you ??

would you like photos of bullet holes in houses and camps around here ??
E-mail from the farmer who has had 2 cows shot ??
E-mail from lady who had her dog shot ??
My neighbor who also put flo-orange on her horses and miniature donkeys ??

To say hunters or non-hunters should have no concern about it is just asking for trouble.. it should be on hunters and non-hunters mind especially in rifle season..


If a rifle hunter were to stop and set-up 150 yards directly across from you would you have a CONCERN about a stray bullet ???????

as I said - the stray arrows statement is silly... so NO I do not agree with her about stray arrows...

ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout

WOW some folks just have to start grabbing for straws.. when the debate is going not so good..

She was silly for adding arrows to that sentence... but notice she did not say fear of or scared of.. she said they have a concern..

I certainly have a concern for stray bullets every rifle season.. don't you ??

would you like photos of bullet holes in houses and camps around here ??
E-mail from the farmer who has had 2 cows shot ??
E-mail from lady who had her dog shot ??
My neighbor who also put flo-orange on her horses and miniature donkeys ??

To say hunters or non-hunters should have no concern about it is just asking for trouble.. it should be on hunters and non-hunters mind especially in rifle season..


If a rifle hunter were to stop and set-up 150 yards directly across from you would you have a CONCERN about a stray bullet ???????

as I said - the stray arrows statement is silly... so NO I do not agree with her about stray arrows...

I certainly have a concern for stray bullets every rifle season.. don't you ??

Absolutely I do. There are so many that times I feel it is unsafe to go out. I think that every sportsman must bring their long and hand guns just to shoot them because they can't get into the woods to hunt. I agree Trout Sunday is the most dangerous day to be hit by a stray bullet as so many shoot more on that day than any other during firearms season.

Statistics: During the most recent reporting year, there were 35 hunting-related shooting incidents recorded. 3 were fatal and 32 were non-fatal. The leading causes were; firearm in a dangerous position and victim mistakenly shot-for-game, which tied at 23% of the incidents recorded. This was followed by; victim in the line of fire and unintentional discharge, which tied at 17% of the incidents recorded.

Seems pretty safe cosidering the number of armed particapants.

If I was afraid of stray bullets I would stay on the porch,oops, in the house....


Now if you would have metioned 20 years ago when the first day of doe was like a war zone..mabee..Aren't enough deer left to sustain that kind of shooting anymore.


You have to watch organizations like PETA and HSUS they are you friend today if you can help them further their agenda. And bend you over the log tomorrow....

But they do have some political clout, I would bet they put a lot of time and money getting the traps out of Colorado(of all states).

Mabee they haven't got any legislation passed in this state,yet. But you can bet your azz they will give it their best shot...

"Know Thine Enemy"

ORIGINAL: wayne c

 but after the inability of those nra guys to answer some basic important questions, and the bungling by the pennfed guy last time, and it being talked about on several internet boards afterwards, I wouldnt be surprised if they wanted to keep any further surprise bunglings in house and out of the direct public eye. Though I dont know how damaging "invited guests" are gonna be to the agenda though, unless they just shoot themselves in the foot like last time. lol.

 
I have got to agree.  Prepared statements were okay.  It fell apart rather quickly when the questions started to fly. 
 
Hate to say it but Sarah Speed handled the questions the best, IMO.  I didn't agree with her statement or answers but she was steady under fire.  HSUS pays their reps well.  They are in those positions for a reason and are a serious threat.

ORIGINAL: bingsbaits

Statistics: During the most recent reporting year, there were 35 hunting-related shooting incidents recorded. 3 were fatal and 32 were non-fatal. The leading causes were; firearm in a dangerous position and victim mistakenly shot-for-game, which tied at 23% of the incidents recorded. This was followed by; victim in the line of fire and unintentional discharge, which tied at 17% of the incidents recorded.

Seems pretty safe cosidering the number of armed particapants.

If I was afraid of stray bullets I would stay on the porch,oops, in the house....


Now if you would have metioned 20 years ago when the first day of doe was like a war zone..mabee..Aren't enough deer left to sustain that kind of shooting anymore.


You have to watch organizations like PETA and HSUS they are you friend today if you can help them further their agenda. And bend you over the log tomorrow....

But they do have some political clout, I would bet they put a lot of time and money getting the traps out of Colorado(of all states).

Mabee they haven't got any legislation passed in this state,yet. But you can bet your azz they will give it their best shot...

"Know Thine Enemy"

Good point . Maybe because deer numbers are so low that many want to shoot so Sunday is now dedicated to shooting ones gun.

Bings.. okay we can agree on that last post... some good and some bad in all groups..


I still think they will have a hard time getting hunting type rules changed IN PA.... remember most of PA non-hunters still support the sport of hunting and realize it is a needed activity...

ORIGINAL: DarDys

Just curious, why is hunting a "needed activity?"

Hunters are the only predator left in PA to exterminate the deer.

Your gonna see all kinds of nut cases come out and protest Sunday hunting just like everything thing else. Eventually it will be passed maybe not tomorrow but sooner than you think. Keep those letters flowing and emails folks....