ORIGINAL: retired guy

Had a similar experience Drake.
    My ONLY hit from an Atlantic happened a month ago when a fella came over to shoot the breeze a bit while fishing. I held the rod in my left hand with the line having straightened out downstream for a while while we jabbered.
After a while SLAM. Missed it of course. Fly  had apparantly been laying there  a few feet from shore and had been wiggling around while we talked.
Mimicked that a lot on my last trip up and had one come out of the water right at the fly but didnt take it.
  Was using dark Spey flies both times. Had a coupla passes last time using a large streamer and a very small black fly. Still wanna use Caddis next trip- think that may be a good one.

hey RT, awesome to hear; besides my other recomendations for presentations; if you get an atlantic to rise on your fly, switch patterns often and comb the same water from top to bottom, you'll get em...

GREAT STUFF

Hey dimebrite:
just read this from another site from someone who lives right there/ knows more then we ever will and sees this every year...

Still think its a summer trout/salmon fishery my friend

" A few photo's from today....Browns continue to sucomb to the summer's warm River waters..
Counted about 20 Skams , Atlantic's and Browns dead this week while fishing smallmouth..."

ORIGINAL: hot tuna

Hey dimebrite:
just read this from another site from someone who lives right there/ knows more then we ever will and sees this every year...

Still think its a summer trout/salmon fishery my friend

" A few photo's from today....Browns continue to sucomb to the summer's warm River waters..
Counted about 20 Skams , Atlantic's and Browns dead this week while fishing smallmouth..."

BUMP

just because I luv how HT trolls for DB...

can't wait to read his response....

Hey SPOONA; you like to stir that pot with that big old spoon of yours it seems.

Of course the water temps get exceptionally high and can't sustain large amounts of summer fish; I've never doubted that and always knew that. I don't know how I first brought it up, but I believe I made some kinda comment about the summer fishery getting better the past few years; and I've mentioned before the amounts of LIVE fish that I've seen in summer months... I know retired guy was hitting the water a bunch this summer so that as well sparked my interest to chime in. Which in turn sparked your interest to rib the sheet out of me

Its all good though man. Btw, the dead ones are no news to me, they've been showing up for a few months now. By no means am I a guy who goes out and pounds water in summer months. I've yet to do it more than a hand full of times to date, and mostly was just looking to whip some rope when I have

Will I be that guy who targets dam releases in june or high water periods in late may to early july??? Yes (if i ever find the time(

No doubt though that there are more summer fish returning; besides, that 18 lb. Atlantic they caught in DSR had to have been a 3 year fish????? Also many larger slams I've seen have most likely been 2 or 3 year fish.

Thank you for giving me credit in regards to thinking you enlightened me; but my view point really hasn't changed at all; possibly you just misunderstood me or I maybe misexplained; keep in mind this is all said in light heartedness....

Now; since you said shane I must ask.... is this the same shane that was living in the lodge down the road from the Altmar bridge back in the late 90's???? If so tell I said what's up. Back in 98 or 99 I was up in mid august and I stopped in at the Altmar hotel for burger and a beer when I first got up. There were 2 guys and 1 woman, tammy the bartender and me. We all played many rounds of liars poker and shot the breeze and had a blast. The one guys name was shane. As time went on fish became the topic of discussion and it got pretty heated to say the least. It all ended on good terms though. He was pretty persistent on saying the fly zones should be closed...in those days I slept in the car mostly when I went up; but as we closed the bar the 2 gentlemen said I could take a room in the lodge in which they were living in at the time. Of course we brought some beers to go and shot the breeze when we got back to their place. One of their friends came by with a steely and a brown he had caught earlier that night down in schoolhouse pool. They all proceded to tell me I should take a drift boat down with them in the late morning when the sun was on the water. I thanked them for the offer but I am a low river guy in early season as you all know. They told me I was gonna get skunked and waste my time. Well, I rose at 530 and made my way to the river. Within 1 hour I nailed a dime bright king that was fresh out of the lake. I dragged that fish right up to the car and brought right back to the lodge. They had just woken up and were shocked at my catch/happy about my catch. Needless to say these were 2 great guys. Unfortunately though, there friends steely and brown were still sitting on the table outside rotting.... but hey; run this one by your friend shane and ask him if he remembers....


Oh yeah; can't forget about the pictures, I was at wedding yesterday and just returned home this evening... I was pretty polluted to say the least so no; I have not scanned them yet. Im actually getting some comical relief from your semi-doubt of the though cut me some slack though, besides youyourself; im one of the few that has posted pics here.... oh well, sorry to bore the heck out of you'd guys.... peace

He owns and operates the Altmar Outfitter Lodge - 1/2mile N from the bridge.

I highly doubt that he said the fly zones should be closed - more like open to all types of artificials - to include guys with spinning outfits.

The guy is against special interest groups with "hidden agendas" that prevent access to the general fishing public - or similiar antics like feel-good creel reductions that run contrary to DEC's own studies of the lake's forage base.

IMO - he's a straight shooter and his aim does not waiver based on the audience.

He's got more knowledge of the river, its history and the back-room deals of the SR fishery than anyone hear could ever possibly accumulate..

DB - I'm not about to get into a urinating contest with you over this.

ask him yourself - he goes by "SNAGGER" over at

GOOD LUCK BUDDY

just thought I would save you the trouble of trying to dredge him up elsewhere


p.s. Fly Zones are not a fly snagging area?
LMFAO - you must still be drunk from yesterday.

HEY-- lets close the whole place above the town of Pulaski- THAT will insure a good spawn-darned snaggers anyhow.
Gotta love those Purists who forgot why the fish are there in the first place-
Better yet- lets just have the DSR and fly fishing only  and all Catch and release and  and    and    and  and
   And anything else that will keep everybody away so IIIIIII can fish MMMYYYYYY way where and whenever IIIIII want-- after all they did all this just for MEEEEEEE.
Those kinda guys are tiresome- even if they do seem to be NICE once in a while.
Gotta be watchful of them whenever policies are being made up there.

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

yet another misunderstaning...

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ORIGINAL: dimebrite

Ht, I saw the post about the dead fishies; my guess (just an assumption so don't hold me to it ) is that a bunch of those dead boys were ones that came in with the recent dam release and went in to shock instantly after the water went down... while for the others that have been in the river for a while have a more adjusted metabolism... just a thought...
peace

I never knew browns and atlantics could run the entire river in 1.5 days...
They must have Coho genes in them....

ORIGINAL: dimebrite

is that a bunch of those dead boys were ones that came in with the recent dam release and went in to shock instantly after the water went down...

yet another misunderstanding...

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ORIGINAL: draketrutta

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sounds good; just trying to get on your humor level here, but i don't know if that is possiblezzzzzzzz.....

btw, my fires tend to get pretty big from time to time; if you're looking for some fireside chatting you best be bringing your fire proof suitzes....

2 words... back-hoe.... and not the hoe most of you are interested in....lmao....

I've got 2 big dead trees ready to come down fresh for burning and a pile of about 30 small/mid sized ones that have been sitting since jack aka pa fisher paid me a visit 2 years ago, so I think the ammunition and the intent is right in line....
Oh yeah, and around 25 stumps..... burn baby burn....