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2010/11/01 23:37:48 (permalink)

PA Roadkill Law

If you ask the PGC they will tell you that the animals are owned by the commonwealth not the game commission, that covers there butt from law suites by people in auto wrecks involving deer. If that's the case then why do have to buy permits from the game commission for animals they don't own? Why doesn't the money go to the general commonwealth, not the game comm. bank account? Or have I been misinformed about who owns the animals in the state? Who is responsible for picking up dead animals on our public roads and who actually does it?

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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/01 23:55:05 (permalink)
    Last time our WCO informed us, they were told by harrisburg NOT to pick up on state roads. Apparently there is a huge pis*ing match in Harrisburg over the issue between penndot and pgc.

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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/02 10:36:29 (permalink)
    The game commission is empowered by the state to MANAGE the commonwealth's game resources. So, the state owns the animal, the PGC (an arm of the state) is given the task of managing that resource. get it? They're not seperate things. Every PGC vehicle is a state vehicle. Should the bureau of forestry have to haul every branch or tree off the road? Whats your problem with roadkill anyway?

    Do you really want to go down the road of arguing for permits/license fees going into the general fund? Once some revenue form gets taken from one of the state's environmental agencies, it tends not to come back. You should want the PGC to have MORE money, not less. The PGC can't do more managment, enforcement, land buys etc without money.

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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/02 16:04:18 (permalink)
    Pretty nice buck hit on 279 south ramp from Mcnight Road. I called and got a road kill permit which was very easy only took about 2 minutes and done over the phone. Couple rules: You got to dispose of hide and head, You can't share the meat (why I don't know), You can only keep the edible portions of the deer, You have to consume by March 2011 (why I don't know), Game officer will pick up the rack.
     Nice thing about this one was no damage to any edible part. All internal and one broken lower leg. YUMMY, YUMMY!
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/02 16:07:05 (permalink)
    10 point with a little road rash! Oh yea one tine broken also.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/02 16:57:56 (permalink)


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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/02 17:02:11 (permalink)
    And what does the PGC due with the antlers ??? Was the permit free ?
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/02 17:03:01 (permalink)
    NICE ! LMAO
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/02 19:09:26 (permalink)
    You have a choice with the antlers,ten dollars a point,or you can tag the deer with your tag,or give then to the PGC.Permits are free.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/02 23:03:08 (permalink)
    Northern Butler County officer will not let you buy the antlers I'm not sure about the Allegheny county officer. Permit was free and very easy to get.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/03 21:18:56 (permalink)
    You also have to be a PA resident. This makes no sense to someone who has been paying PA real estate taxes for 38 years.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/03 21:35:30 (permalink)
    maybe one our lawenforcement guys can answer that for you ?
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    You also have to be a PA resident. This makes no sense to someone who has been paying PA real estate taxes for 38 years.

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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/03 22:20:53 (permalink)
    wellllll if you want road kill it should be free it cost the state around 120 to 200 bucks per critter no matter the size rember 2men truck /gas/ ins/ disposal/ even if they dump her in a land fill you still have to pick it up
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/03 22:23:26 (permalink)
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    maybe one our lawenforcement guys can answer that for you ?




    Or maybe one of law enforcement protesters could explain what they think they know but in reality its a completely uneducated statement made up in fantasy land...or maybe this protester could just continue with the ridiculous postings making themselves look like a bigger as$hole...?

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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/10 16:59:30 (permalink)
    Seen lots of dead deer along I79 this weekend. Drove up again and they are still there. Maybe some one is waiting for them to get bigger before removing them?
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/24 23:18:05 (permalink)
    one thing about this tho... wat if i want to keep the antlers? it isnt right that they get to take them when all they do it stick them in a pile with all the other bucks they pick up. wat if i want them for a new set of rattling antlers since real ones lose theyre tone after 2 yrs? i dont understand y they can have the rack but i cant??? makes no sense to me... theres no reason to have to pay for the antlers biside the pgc being money hungry... personally its a bunch of bs that u have to pay for somethin that is otherwise free & saves them the hassel that they dont want to deal with in the first place...

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    Pretty nice buck hit on 279 south ramp from Mcnight Road. I called and got a road kill permit which was very easy only took about 2 minutes and done over the phone. Couple rules: You got to dispose of hide and head, You can't share the meat (why I don't know), You can only keep the edible portions of the deer, You have to consume by March 2011 (why I don't know), Game officer will pick up the rack.
    Nice thing about this one was no damage to any edible part. All internal and one broken lower leg. YUMMY, YUMMY!

    post edited by kristmas725 - 2010/11/24 23:22:57
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/24 23:36:56 (permalink)
    all they do it stick them in a pile with all the other bucks they pick up


    NOT TRUE.....

    FYI.... easiest answer ... a hunter is only allowed to have antlers from bucks you legally harvested.... you did not legally harvest a road kill....
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/25 02:52:37 (permalink)
    That will probaly change in years to come. Seems like hunting is all about money anymore. You might have to pay for each point in the future if you can still afford to hunt.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/26 13:27:51 (permalink)
    i understand that but they didnt legally harvest it either... so just cause theyre the pgc they get to keep it? how is that fair in any way, shape, or form?
     
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    all they do it stick them in a pile with all the other bucks they pick up


    NOT TRUE.....

    FYI.... easiest answer ... a hunter is only allowed to have antlers from bucks you legally harvested.... you did not legally harvest a road kill....
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/27 05:56:05 (permalink)
    Back in the day meaning twenty years ago or so. You could go to the PGC dump site in butler county for road kills and get racks for free. Some would very nice and a pile of scrapers.It really depended on if you were lucky and got there right after they dumped the deer. I am not sure about today but maybe worth a try. I will say the smell was pretty nasty and picking through the carcases was gross as well. BESAFEANDGOODLUCK
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/11/27 09:58:24 (permalink)
    Their job is to manage the resource. Thats what they're hired to do. If they feel that people shouldn't be allowed to keep the racks from roadkill bucks then I'm sure theres a good reason.

    Really, how is it not fair? I mean I understand maybe you want the rack from a roadkill animal, but what makes it not fair?
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    i understand that but they didnt legally harvest it either... so just cause theyre the pgc they get to keep it? how is that fair in any way, shape, or form?

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    all they do it stick them in a pile with all the other bucks they pick up


    NOT TRUE.....

    FYI.... easiest answer ... a hunter is only allowed to have antlers from bucks you legally harvested.... you did not legally harvest a road kill....



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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/05 17:38:15 (permalink)
    I WORK AT PENNDOT AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE WCO`S WILL NO LONGER PICK UP ROAD KILL IF THEY ARE ON THE TRAVEL PORTION OF THE HWY. HELL THEY DON`TPICK UP ANY ROAD KILL DEER THERE HAVE BEEN SOME LAYING HERE IN ELK CO FOR MONTHS NOW JUST A BAG OF BONES AND HIDE
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/05 19:01:59 (permalink)
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     ... a hunter is only allowed to have antlers from bucks you legally harvested.... you did not legally harvest a road kill....

     
    Not true...shed hunting is legal.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/05 19:02:46 (permalink)
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    FYI.... easiest answer ... a hunter is only allowed to have antlers from bucks you legally harvested.... you did not legally harvest a road kill....

     
    Not true.  A hunter can legally buy antlers.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/05 19:03:33 (permalink)
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    FYI.... easiest answer ... a hunter is only allowed to have antlers from bucks you legally harvested.... you did not legally harvest a road kill....

     
    Not true.  Anyone is entitled to have antlers given to them.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/05 19:04:09 (permalink)
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    FYI.... easiest answer ... a hunter is only allowed to have antlers from bucks you legally harvested.... you did not legally harvest a road kill....

     
    Not true.  You can inherit antlers.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/05 19:20:10 (permalink)
    My guess is the PGC and/or commonwealth doesnt want somebody to profit off the roadkill antlers.
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/05 20:48:36 (permalink)
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    I WORK AT PENNDOT AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE WCO`S WILL NO LONGER PICK UP ROAD KILL IF THEY ARE ON THE TRAVEL PORTION OF THE HWY. HELL THEY DON`TPICK UP ANY ROAD KILL DEER THERE HAVE BEEN SOME LAYING HERE IN ELK CO FOR MONTHS NOW JUST A BAG OF BONES AND HIDE

     
    They are laying there rotting because Penn DOT didn’t pick them up like they were supposed to.
     
    The WCOs quit picking up highway killed deer a year ago or even longer in some areas. Penn DOT has been getting reimbursed from the Federal Government for removing dead animals for decades so I guess it is time for them to do so.
     
    Highway killed deer aren’t a very high priority in the protection of the wildlife resource since they are already dead.
     
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/05 20:51:25 (permalink)
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    My guess is the PGC and/or commonwealth doesnt want somebody to profit off the roadkill antlers.

     
    Correct! That and they don't want people intentionally running them down to get a set of antlers. And, yes that does happen. I have seen it happen a few times.
     
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    RE: PA Roadkill Law 2010/12/06 21:50:43 (permalink)
    If you smash your car to get a set of antlers, you deserve to keep them. Got to have something cause that person" aint got no brains".
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