ORIGINAL: chicken27
NAP xp pro series.I'm not shooting that far free handed that's resting on a quad.I would never recommended shooting that far at a live animal.All the books i been reading latly they say to learn to hit a pie plate at least 40 yards.You guys that hate the x bows you got to remember they lose alot more energy then a compound the farther you shoot them.I say the only difference between an x bow an compound is the amount of practice it takes to be death with one.
Totally false, you need to read up on Kinetic Energy and the "NEW crossbows out there...
Here is an excerpt from a a fella that has done the math...
I’ve heard
many people state to me on the subject of crossbow performance that a
"a crossbow doesn’t carry as far, they drop off faster, they are a hinderance in a treestand, they’re loud, there is no performance advantage vs a compound, the ranges are the same†etc etc so on and so on.
I have an older PSE Fireflight crossbow downstairs right now with a 125# draw weight with it’s old round wheels that I would ABSOLUTELY classify as accurate based upon the above statements. It’s slow, it’s so loud it should come with ear plugs
and my 2009 compound will shoot circles around it IN MY HANDS anyway with respect to performance.
If I absolutely needed to make a shot at 50 yards with either I wouldn’t even glance at that crossbow. It’s a flat out turd. Advantage compound by a wide margin.
That turd might also be what many people see a crossbow being nowadays.
Those people would be wrong.
Let me throw some raw performance numbers out there for you comparing the highest performance crossbow made today The "Stryker" vs the highest performance compound Bowtech makes right now in the Bowtech 82nd Airborne.
These are the facts on what a top of the line crossbow of today will do and how it compares to the same top level compound. (Not top vs average or vice versa)
The Airborne 82nd compound bow out of the box comes factory pre-set at 29†draw length and 70# draw weight and will shoot 312fps with a 425g arrow and a kinetic energy of 92ft lbs. (This number is also before weight is added to the string in the form of peep, nock accessories etc which will lower performance)
That 29â€/70# is also above the industry average bowhunter in North America with respect to draw length and draw weight. 425gr arrow was chosen for comparison with the Stryker.
The Stryker out of the box with it’s 175# draw weight will throw the same 425gr weight projectile at 405fps for a KE rating of 155ft lbs.
I ran their ballistics through a program to extrapolate what they would both be doing at those controversial “Impossible†crossbow distances that people talk about for comparison and say they can't or won't do.
The numbers:Pray my math is correct.
Bowtech Airborne 82nd (point blank) 29â€/70# with a 425gr arrow = 312fps and 92ft lbs of KE
(By all rights an extremely high performance bow)
At 90 yards it is doing 284fps and 76ft lbs of KE
At 100 yards it is at 281fps and 74.6ft lbs of KE.
Impressive performance to say the least!
Stryker Crossbow- (point blank) with the same 425gr arrow = 405fps for 155ft lbs of KE
At 90 yards it is still going 341fps with a KE of 110ft lbs. (at 90 yards it is still 16% more powerful than the compound is at point blank
At 100 yards it is still going 337.8fps with a KE of 107.6 (at 100 yards the crossbow is still 14% more powerful than the compound at point blank) Think about that.
What does this longwinded nonsense illustrate exactly?
For one it directly compares the top end offerings in both categories no BS, it's todays best performance in each category. It also dispels the myth that crossbows somehow are “less efficient†or offer no performance advantage over a compound.
Remember the average bowhunter is shooting a compound bow with far less performance than I illustrated which widens that gap considerably.....
anybody can shoot the Stryker with the performance listed.
Sure there are old style roundwheel crossbows out there, middle of the road crossbows out there, outdated crossbows out there, that performance wise at long range are ballistically even with or below the better of the compounds. That’s a fact. There are JUNK crossbows just like there are junk compounds.
But to argue a lack of performance advantage for today’s crossbow on top of the obvious pre-****ed one and the use of true optics is being flat out silly.
Make no mistake about what is available and what is also on the way.
Page through a Fall Cabela’s master catalog and look at the pages of crossbows and you’ll quickly see that these aren’t your daddy’s crossbows.
You let in the bottom end crossbows which in spirit I'm sure many guys are arguing for………you’ve also left in the top end one as well.
And I’ve shown what that what will do.
And they aren’t done yet. There is much more room for advancement in performance on crossbows than there is currently with compounds with an already wide performance gap between the 2.
You want an eye opener? You guys who
THINK you know what the story is with ALL crossbows?
Get your hands on a Stryker like I illustrated above with its 3 dot scope which can be set for around 60-80-100yards and head to a bench rest and shoot some groups. Bring along a buddy to help pull the bolts if they didn't pass right through your target.
I can shoot groups at 100 yards right out of the box with the Stryker that I could only DREAM about shooting with a compound and do it with more energy than my bow puts out 2 feet from the bow....... and I’m a National Champion 3D archer.
I can tell you for a FACT that with a rest I could kill a deer standing still everytime at 100 yards if I had a rangefinder and a Stryker. Would you consider it unethical or irresponsible? It's
totally capable of making clean accurate pass through kills to 100 yards with ease. The numbers don't lie.
Don’t look at the dusty rusty round wheel crossbow in the corner and think you know crossbows……..because you don’t.
Let one in and you let them ALL in and they will get even better, count on it.
The crossbow manufacturers don’t see some happy world where crossbows and compounds belong together for some higher good, where we should all sit around a campfire singing pretty songs despite what it could do to our seasons and game management………what they see is the holy grail of crossbow manufacturing and that’s simply Pennsylvania the state. We are nothing more than a huge untapped resource consisting of hundreds of thousands of hunters who know guns, but not bows.