allegheny river canoe trip

Moo I normally float from franklin to fishermens cove, lots of smallmouth. Not any rapids to worry about, but give the jet boats room. Good luck, its a great float

I think Warren to Emlenton is too far to go in one day. 

water level is low so while I wouldn't worry about rapids, I'd keep an eye out for rocks.  

I'm sure that both live bait and artificials will work for musky.  but I think live bait will slow you down more, and a floating rapalla, 5-7", thrown against the current seams is pretty awesome for quite a few fish.  Look for eddies and structure.  You're most likely to catch like 10,000 smallmouth but the possibility of a musky is always there.  trout, walleye, and pike are also possible.

I think that If you intend to anchor and cast, Even warren to tionesta will seem like a very long ways indeed.  Warren to tidioute is possible, people do it, and it allows you the time to really work the eddies.

that is pretty much all the advice I can offer.  if you do a search back on threads, members have spilled quite a few beans back onto this subject.  As its something that some people do pretty regularly.

Good luck

Warren to Franklin in a day is pushing it imo

We float Franklin to Kennerdell often - it is a nice two day trip. Camp on the islands, can take time to fish good spots. Only thing that stinks is there always seems to be a head wind as soon as you leave the islands.

I dont think you will have any bear problems at night.I asume you will proboly have a fire.Just use common sence and you will be fine. Having a GPS is nice you always know where your at and how far to your destination. Dont forget the sun screen and have a great time.

dealing with animals is a part of camping around here.  prevention is the solution not gun-fire.

basically, its like this, if everything that smells good is up a tree, and your site is free from food (bones, half-eaten ham sandwich, etc) your OK.  Odors, nibbles left out, etc. espacially in a tent is very bad news.  bears are just the brawniest of many animals that will take advantage of any "feeding" situation.

A campfire will also discourage wildlife (to a point). 

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I haven't heard of a bear attack in a long time (though It wouldn't surprise if they have been some I haven't heard about) and given the amount of people in the woods (both in campsites and not) during the summer, and some people's irresponsible habits about this, I think you might be safer in the woods, bears in all, than you are in the average house in the average suburb.
Jason

ok guys just 1 more question from warren to tionesta about how far is it were looking to be on the river friday around noon and pull of at 7 is it a 1 night or 2 night trip

I did a 30 mile trip > Buckaloons to Tionesta when the River was running at a normal June level and it took all day with some serious paddling.
I've done the 15 mile trip > Tidioute to Tionesta many times in low flow, stopping to fish here and there and it usually takes us anywhere from 7-10 hours, depending on flow and how good the fishing is.
The smallie fishing is better below Tidioute than above.

well nymph if you knew my friends you wouldnt think much of it went from 7 people in 3 canoes to 3 people in 1 and the person whos idea it was for the trip just bailed last nite also we were suppose to go in the begining of may but a freak storm made us cancel and the june trip got cancelled b/c i dislocated my arm but now friday is just 3 days away and i was just looking for some last minute advice or some helpful hints and us 3 being avid outdoorsman/ fisherman i hope to have many pictures to share mabye even that 50+'' musky ive been looking to catch for so long thanks again for everything guys it was all appreciated

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.... i hope to have many pictures to share mabye even that 50+'' musky ive been looking to catch ....

still I have to wonder out loud, how well you can really catch a 50" musky in a canoe, drifting?  I know for myself I caught a 25" catfish, anchored in the current, and it wasn't all that easy.  the darn thing was dragging me along, my anchor was pulled free then hung up, all the while I was sure that the fish was going to get me sideways to the current and ....

well, I didn't flip & I caught my fish.  but It was close. 
 
anyone on here chase Big fish on a drifting canoe? is there a technique to not getting dunked??  How do you keep your boat from being dragged all around the river (over rocks, and sideways into riffles, etc)?

Perhaps, Since it was dark and I was solo, It was just harder that it would be on a drift trip.
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after that I had less enthusiasm for canoeing at night for catfish. 

 Just maybe he would get out ov the canoe & wet wade some good lookin' spots????

hey crappie we'll probly be doing alot of wading at night my uncle put me on a good walleye spot on the leeward side of a decent island getting ur jighead crwler/shiner out that far is a nice long cast

If your partner in the canoe can do a good job handling it I think you can handle the big fish.  As for a gun I do alot of backpacking and I have had bear up against my tent.  You never keep food near your tent and I will not even eat near my tent. I have packed Montana , Wyoming, Colerado, West Va and Pa and I am more afraid of Racoons and other people then bears.  

Take Rain Gear !

thanks fisherlady we all ready got 3 tarps and we have 2 disposable cameras and 2 fire starting logs and when we get back theyll be developed give or take a few days to get them scanned and for me to get them on here, also my friend gets back from iraq in 2 weeks and allready started planning a 2nd trip, again thank you guys/girls for all the help and advice its all very appreciated