Exciting encounter..

Bet you'll be getting a handgun and a permit for it now lol.
 
Ronnie

DPMS -- Some of us thought our fella hunters have their priorities screwed up.  Example:   Carrying a pistol but not wearing a safety harness.   Show me the last time a black bear killed a person in the woods ??  I'll show you the number of falls and deaths per year.
 
Mag--
 
You're lucky it wasn't dark.   Black bears are blood thirty man eaters in the night.   Infact, I've had them at 4-6 feet and more encounters than I could count on my fingers and toes.  They ate me alive only half the time.  Did you know I only have one eye?   I was surrounded by those blood thirty hyenas (PA coyote) on Saturday morning too.  yikes!!!!
 
 
--I think some of you wait until light to enter the woods...
 
 

 
 

KYPE,  You just never know,
 

Name, age, gender
Date
Species
Location, comments

Robin Kochorek, 31, female
July 20, 2007
Black
The 31-year-old woman was reported missing on July 20th after being separated from friends while mountain biking at Panorama Mountain Resort, British Columbia. She was killed by a black bear who was right where the body was recovered at 8 a.m. July 21st. Indications were that the bear had preyed upon this person or obviously was trying to claim ownership. The bear was shot on site by RCMP.[1]

Samuel Evan Ives, 11, male
June 17, 2007
Black
Taken from a tent in American Fork Canyon in the Uinta National Forest in Utah County, Utah where he was sleeping with his stepfather, mother and 6-year-old brother. The bear was later destroyed by state Wildlife officials.[2]

Elora Petrasek, 6, female
April 13, 2006
Black
She was killed and her mother and 2 year-old brother seriously injured in an attack in the Cherokee National Forest in Tennessee.[3]



Jacqueline Perry, 30, female
September 6, 2005
Black
Killed in a predatory attack at the Missinaibi Lake Provincial Park, north of Chapleau, Ontario, Canada. Her husband was seriously injured trying to protect her. Ministry staff shot and killed the bear at approximately 8:00 a.m. Saturday, September 10, 2005, near the area where the fatal attack occurred in a remote area of the park. [5][6] The bear involved had already attempted to attack two fisherman an hour before this attack occurred

Harvey Robinson, 69, male
August 26, 2005
Black
Fatally mauled while picking plums at Selkirk, north of Winnipeg, Manitoba.




Merlyn Carter, 71, male
2005
Black
Found dead in the main cabin of his fishing camp located 300 km Northeast of Ft. Smith, Northwest Territories, Canada.


Forestry worker
April 17, 2003
Black
Stalked, killed and partially consumed by a large, black bear near Waswanipi, a village in northern Quebec.

Christopher Bayduza
September 2002
Black
Attacked and killed at a remote oil rigging site in northeastern British Columbia.

Maurice Malenfant
September 2002
Black
Attacked and killed in his campsite in Gaspé region of Quebec.

Ester Schwimmer, 5 months, female
August 2002
Black
Bear grabs and kills 5 month old infant from stroller on the porch of home in Fallsburg, New York.



Adelia Maestras Trujillo, 93, female
August 2001
Black
Bear breaks into a house in New Mexico and is confronted by the elderly owner who dies during the attack.

Kyle Harry, 18, male
June 3, 2001
Black
Attacked and killed at a rural campsite 25 km. east of Yellowknife in the Northwest Territories, Canada.



Mary-Beth Miller, 24, female
July 2000
Black
Attacked and killed while on a training run in Quebec, Canada.

Glena Ann Bradley, female
May 2000
Black
Killed and partially consumed by a 112 pound female and her 40 pound yearling. The attack occurred near the Goshen Prong/Little River trail junction 1.5 miles upstream from Elkmont, Great Smoky Mountains near Gatlinburg, Tennessee

[edit] 1990s



Patti McConnell, 37, female
August 17, 1997
Black
Died from injuries while defending herself from attack near Liard River Hotsprings, British Columbia

Raymond Kitchen, 56, male
August 17, 1997
Black
Died from injuries while attempting to rescue McConnell. McConnell's 13 year old son and an unidentified 20 year Calgary Alberta man were also injured in the attack Liard River Hotsprings, British Columbia

Sevend "Sven" Satre, 53, male
June 1996
Black
Killed while checking fencelines at his rural ranch in British Columbia



Colin McClelland, 24, male
August 10, 1993
Black
Killed as a result of a crushed skull after a 240 pound male Black bear tore open the door to his trailer and attacked at WAGH Mountain, Colorado. The bear was later destroyed by game wardens.



Darcy Staver, female
July 8, 1992
Black
Darcy was killed by her husband, he then left her to be partially consumed by a small Black Bear to cover up the murder. He is now serving a life sentence for first degree murder!! His cover-up story was that Darcy was killed by a small black bear after retreating to the roof of her cabin to escape the bear's break-in to their cabin west of Glennallen, Alaska

a male geologist
June 14, 1992
Black
Attacked and killed on field assignment near Cochrane, Ontario.

Female and Male camper
October 11, 1991
Black
Bates Island,Opeongo Lake, Algonquin Provincial Park, Ontario, Canada

Sixth hunter shot in deer stand dispute dies
Authorities name suspect, but no formal charges filed




Tuesday, November 23, 2004 Posted: 10:22 AM EST (1522 GMT)







Brent Good, a friend of one of the slain hunters, lights candles during a vigil for the victims Monday in Birchwood, Wisconsin.

Yes Kype, I do wear my seatbelt (in the car and on stand- always).  Yes I do keep a handgun with me many times when I am in public.  I have only ever pulled it once, and it was on a Rottweiller outside of Coudersport while trout fishing the Allegheny (didn't end up using it...).  That said, you just never know...  A buddy of mine was attacked two years ago by a blackie in Md.  He was riding his ATV out of the woods when it struck from the side.  He did not get bit, but the teeth marks on his rear fender were substantial.  Go anywhere that bears and humans interact continually and eventually there will be a conflict.  That is not fear, that is fact. I do not have bears in my area (at least not enough to talk about), but I still carry my handgun.  For me, it would be more for dogs or a possible confrontation with another person (you never know who is passing through).  I hunt private property exclusively. The people I see are trespassing to start with and who knows what else (going to a stash, poaching, stealing, vandalizing private property).   I do not confront  these people, but I have witnessed some bizarre illegal behaviors (which get turned in).  If they happened to see me in a tree watching them, who is to say how far the situation might escalate, depending on what that person thinks I may have seen. 

Who was the first to bring this up here dpms ??   YOU.   Hardcore fisher had no idea.  And you're telling ME that here we go again??

For the 100th time, I'm not talking about right to bear arms.  I'm talking about logic and safety and the decisions people make in everyday life that involve possible tragedy.  For the 40,000 time quit talking to me about the right to bear arms.  Do you understand that I understand that and that it not what I'm talking about??  I'm refering to the more dangerous things that WILL likely happen to someone other than something in the woods that would need a pistol ???   Do you understand that I'm refering to people priorities being skewed and NOT the right to bear arms?    Why must we go over this 100 times ?? 

Where on earth did I say about taking ANYTHING away from hunters ??


It amazes me that you aren't even reading what I'm writing 

No, I am rationalizing why do people carry a pistol when they don't do other things to prevent something that is 100X more likely to affect their well-being.

We are talking about different things d.

Is this about our rights or our safety ?  They are two entirely different subjects.

It's pretty clear I am refering to someones safety (ultimately .. what we should be at the top of the list of priorities each day to ensure we will see another).  Is carrying a pistol everywhere you go at the top of your list ??  If so, you live in a ****ty place.  Rights don't mean a thing if you are dead.

You are refering to a right.  The right to carry a weapon that was given to us.


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"I still can't fathom how a pistol could be legal for archery hunters and a safety harness is not required for treestand hunting."

This sentence --- I'm refering to is putting SAFETY priorities first -- I'm NOT refering to rights.

I'm not trying to restrict your right to carry.  We have two different mindsets.  I'm done with that subject.  Enough.

griffon, if I was to come hunt with you and learn the area, I'd likely see a need to carry a weapon.  Whereas if you came here, you'd feel it wasn't worth your effort.  Our differences are likely due to geographic location, perhaps more than opinion.
 
I live in a place where more people get hit buy cars than hurt or killed by anything else.  If we moved to where black mambas were everywhere -- we'd likely both get snake boots.  We're just adapting to our surroundings.
 
..and yes, a bear associating food with humans puts us in grave danger.   A bear living off someone's garbage or food, is not likely to be where I hunt. 
 
 
 
Maga-- you did the correct thing.  It's very likely it'll never happen again.  You can't let them know the power they have.  I've had to stand my ground many times.  The closest I've been so far this year was about 30 yards with a 300 - 350 pound male.  He wanted nothing to do with me.
 
The only thing coyotes do to you is send chills down your back, and they are quite chilling, especially in the dark.

ORIGINAL: startinout

I would definitely carry my 357 JUST in case, if it were legal.  Is it? 

 
With a CCW it is now legal to carry a pistol for protection while engaged in all hunting activities.  Also includes spotting.
 
 

would  i have goten introuble by the game commission if that bear would have charged me and i would of somehow shot it and killed it?

Gotta watch out for those heroin addicts in H-burg drake. 
 
maga -- Evidence probably would have been examined.  I'd guess with an entry in the front of the bear would be proof it was close and headed for you.  An arrow in the diaphram would get you in some trouble.  However, you better be a good shot; arrow or bullet!!  You could turn a false charge into a real one with a bad hit.  If you feel the need for protection, carry a pistol.  Don't rely on aiming at a running target with a bow.

sooo wat the game commssion is  saying i cant shoot a bear if it comes and attacks me. but then when the bear kills me they get to go shoot it... after im dead...

I currently do not own a handgun but if I did, I would not hesitate to carry if I felt the need.  I have my CCW.  I have the right to carry.  I have the right to feel safe.  If I feel safe carrying, I have that right. 
 
Yes, I have a better chance of being killed in my car (even though I wear my seatbelt and have airbags and ABS) or killed from a treestand fall (even though I wear my safety harness 100% of the time) than being attacked by a bear, dog, yote, criminal, (insert any other assorted boogey man here) but it only takes that one in a million chance to make you a statistic.  If I can in any way lessen those chances, I will if it is within my power.  Currently, it isn't due to not owning a handgun but I have been in the market. 

ORIGINAL: thedrake

I've taken some heat on this board about my thoughts on gun rights, but I do agree that if someone feels they need protection, they should be able to have it.

 
That is the bottom line.  Amen brother. 

Since we're on the topic. Here's a T-shirt......