FiveMilePete
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12 mile creek
I went down to 12 mile just now. The mouth is totally blocked except for an 18 inch wide one inch deep little ditch going into the lake. I've never seen it this low.
On a side note, does anyone know who built the fence along the road
blocking all parking by the wall at 12 mile? Or why? The only parking now at 12 mile is at the mouth. There is no parking on the road. There are
2 spaces above rt. 5, and the mouth. Makes it tough for disabled who used to fish at the wall when fish are in. Really, about the only spot on the east side they could fish.
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 20:35:04
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Spring ridge club? I have no idea I saw that last weekend when I rode down there it was posted with a bunch of signs havent seen the fence yet that sux 
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 21:01:26
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Looks like Im gonna need that chainsaw or bolt cutters and hacksaw after all. I can walk but since that IS the only real place for the less fortunate to fish on the east side then I could fix the problem.
Pete , pinner , I could use the help if yinz wanna help me get rid of such problem?
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 21:17:11
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Take some bail money with you. The area remains open to fishing, However there was a landowner issue with parking. I am trying to remember from the last PSA meeting, what the issue was, vandalism ( quads ), or it was just that they planned to develope ( plant grass, etc ) the area. It could get quite torn up, when wet. Seems to me the Twp owns the property, but don't hold me to it. I will find out at the PSA banquet saturday, and post. OR ya'all could come to the banquet, and get the info there. As well as good food, a beer or 3, and maybe even a cool prize. 
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 21:21:26
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Just take the snips and cut the ties holding the fence to the post they are very cheap made now days.... roll the fence up take it home!!!!  
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FiveMilePete
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 21:45:42
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Found this in Harborcrecreek Township newsletter: T he Harborcreek Township Board of Supervisors has applied for a $95,000 grant for improvements to township properties along 12 Mile Creek and Shorewood Road. This grant program is administered by the PA Fish & Boat Commission through monies derived from the “Lake Erie Stamp†fees. This grant is a 50/50 match, meaning $47,500 will be given to Harborcreek Township with the township matching with in kind services (labor). Improvements Proposed are: • Paved parking area at the mouth of 12 Mile Creek • Improvements to the wall along the creek to permit handicap access
• Handicap parking area and access road adjacent to the wall So I guess we paid for it, by we, I mean Harborcreek residents, and fishermen. I saw no sign of the paved parking lot, and didn't see any entrance to the fence. So, guess we'll see.
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 22:09:58
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It would be really nice if they made an area just for handicapped people. But if they make easy access then everybody will be borrowing grandmas' blue sticker.
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 22:38:09
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Make the wall at walnut kids 15 and younger, Sr's and handicapped only. Plenty of room, easy access..................
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 23:01:20
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I think that's a fantastic idea. Serious.....
I guess my next ? would be...I'm almost scurred to wake up da big dog.............
Spoon,
Has that ever been looked into.....and would it even be possible? Just for conversation sake I want to know. Unfortunately...I'm not a "legislative" guy. Thanks in advance.
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 23:08:15
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ORIGINAL: pxatim
Make the wall at walnut kids 15 and younge
Uh oh KMP....... 
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 23:13:43
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ORIGINAL: pxatim
Make the wall at walnut kids 15 and younger, Sr's and handicapped only. Plenty of room, easy access..................
this.
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 23:15:49
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Slick,
The idea has been bantied about some. I'm not sure of the legalities, logistics, or specific need in doing so. I believe the wall north of the marina entrance is designated a "handicap" access. Like many other such areas, it is open to "able bodied" persons, but they must defer to ( make space for ), special needs individuals if necessary.
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 23:19:11
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ORIGINAL: spoonchucker
Slick,
The idea has been bantied about some. I'm not sure of the legalities, logistics, or specific need in doing so. I believe the wall north of the marina entrance is designated a "handicap" access. Like many other such areas, it is open to "able bodied" persons, but they must defer to ( make space for ), special needs individuals if necessary.
Yes, I have seen disabled people there fishing, but they are usually mixed in with like you said, able bodied people....I have seen people in wheelchairs both North and South of the boat launch there at walnut...
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 23:34:05
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I would hope any abled body person would be more than willing to give up their precious spot for a handicapped person. I've seen crazier things in Erie though...
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BIGSLICK
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/24 23:36:28
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ORIGINAL: pxatim
I would hope any abled body person would be more than willing to give up their precious spot for a handicapped person. I've seen crazier things in Erie though...
I would hope so too...But you never know with the steel craze.........
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 00:18:15
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I was fishing the wall 4 yrs ago, talkin to my frind when i heard a guy say " Bobby " It was a blind guy that i took fishin to my aunts ponds 4 years before,he had worked with my Dad for the county.....
He knew my voice...
Me and my bud moved and give him a spot...
The dude caught more fish than all on the wall.....
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 08:19:20
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I brought this up to the powers to be at the Meadville meeting about making north of the basin a kids/handicapped area only at least until they close the marina. They said they were very seriously considering this proposal for next year.
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 09:13:28
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ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK
ORIGINAL: pxatim
Make the wall at walnut kids 15 and younge
Uh oh KMP.......
uh oh Bigslick 
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 09:39:18
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uh oh loomis  
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 09:51:01
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 10:01:18
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yes...couldnt find a used one
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 10:30:39
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 10:37:40
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PM sent. 
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 10:40:54
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hahaha Here is Cold making his way to 12 mile, report will post when he gets there... 
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 10:43:56
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No way, dUUd... ...my eMachines is black and silver...goes with the duct tape.
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/25 21:06:31
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I assumed that it meant you were gonna whack KMP with the wrench, like a blackjack. haha
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RE: 12 mile creek
2009/09/30 20:33:47
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From my township newsletter today (like 5mile's report got at too) - the township built the fence and seeded the area by the wall to "improve the natural beuaty of the area" and for use by picknickers. Fair enough - that area did get really tore up by vehicles and it's not like the walk from the mouth is all that far. They also plan to pave the parking area at the mouth and improve the handicap access to the wall. So a work in progress that should improve things for everyone.
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