ATTN: ALL TYERS

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2009/08/04 18:24:59 (permalink)

ATTN: ALL TYERS

I need everyones help on a project that I'm working on. What I need is the working height of your vise (from table to jaw of vise). The reason that I'm asking this is b/c I'm making some tying stations and I want to intergrate a vise into the mix. I'm going to be makeing a couple different styles (To hold your vise ). Everyones input is welcome and if anyone would like to share with me what they look for in tying stations or desks it will just help improve the product. Thanks for everyones help on this.

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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/04 18:52:16 (permalink)
    From surface of table to tip of vise jaws: about 6 1/8"

    From top of tying surface to center of shaft where the jaw assembly attaches: 2 9/16"

    I tie on a Regal, so the jaw assembly is long compared to most vises.
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/04 19:00:25 (permalink)
    Clamp vises, in my case a regal medalion, adjust up or down with a shaft screw,  height of the jaws from the table vary with tying techniques. Height I prefer is 6 to 10", height determined by whether or not I want the jaws to rotate.
    post edited by Plum Bob - 2009/08/04 19:03:16
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/04 19:04:39 (permalink)
    Good point, I have my vise head angled up, at about 37 1/2 degrees (halfway between 30 and 45). To keep that angle and a height of just over 6", it puts the bend of the shaft at about 2 1/2" above the table.
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/04 19:13:34 (permalink)
    Thanks for the input so far its a big help, What I'm trying to get is a base height to start being that I can't lower the vise in the station being the main base will be granite and all I can do is go up,

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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/04 19:26:13 (permalink)
    I tie on a pedestal vise and it's 8" from table to tip of jaws.
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/04 22:29:13 (permalink)
    If you can, either just bolt on some kind of metal flange with a set screw adjustment on a 3/8" hole OR build the flange into the granite, but you'd have to start out with a thicker piece and work down. Also dont know how the set screw would work in the granite.

    Really, I'd just check out a few pedestal vises if I were you and imitate them. The height is more a function of each individual vise. All pedestal models start out at bench height +/- 0" and go up from there. The only difference the pedestal makes in height is how deep the hole goes. A thru hole will let the shaft drop as low as it can, but a blind hole might be a bit stronger, and more aesthetically pleasing.
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/04 22:37:46 (permalink)


    i tie rotary... so the jaw height changes, while the shank stays the same
    sternum high...

    i HATE clamp vises!
    i want a vise 10inches back from the edge, so i can have my elbows up on the desk


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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/05 06:29:12 (permalink)

    I'll try to give you all an idea of what I'm trying to do with this. Picture an roll top desk for example with the working surface made out of granite. What my idea is to make the shaft to the vise fixed to the table so it wont move and make the jaws to the vise adjustable with all tying angles in mind. Granted this will be custom set to fit the tyer and I'm also makeing a smaller version that you can set on any desk or table with intergrated vises and clamp on vices to fit all tyers.

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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/05 07:03:24 (permalink)
    For what it's worth, the bench I tie at actually started out with two side surfaces and nothing in the middle. I found a piece from an old tabletop and cut it to size. Like KJH, I hated tying with my clamp style vise at the edge of the table, but aside from that issue, I do like the clamp style a bit better. So, with the tabletop as an infinitely customizable surface, I cut a slot through it at the proper location so that I can have my cake and eat it too: a clamp vise in the middle of the desk.
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/05 07:14:49 (permalink)
    7 7/8" = desktop surface to vice jaw tip. (The pedestal sits on a 1" thick block for added height) 
     
    I like versatility in my tying area. Everything is portable and can be rearranged to suit the season or type of flies I'm tying.
    Right now, I'm still working on tiny dries so the 6 removable drawers to the left contain materials dedicated to those type of flies.   
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/05 08:26:10 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: tank7791


    I'll try to give you all an idea of what I'm trying to do with this. Picture an roll top desk for example with the working surface made out of granite. What my idea is to make the shaft to the vise fixed to the table so it wont move and make the jaws to the vise adjustable with all tying angles in mind. Granted this will be custom set to fit the tyer and I'm also makeing a smaller version that you can set on any desk or table with intergrated vises and clamp on vices to fit all tyers.






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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/05 08:56:45 (permalink)
    Mmmmm...ripe olives...
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/05 09:09:47 (permalink)
    Especially fond of the rice container scrap box.
     
    Top notch.
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/05 11:34:07 (permalink)
    innovation at its finest./
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/06 09:08:12 (permalink)
    Almost forgot the beer holder thanks

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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/07 07:18:01 (permalink)
    That is the best picture ever!!!  Gotta love that hotel room work station!
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/07 08:10:42 (permalink)
    tank

    personally i think the mosy important part is storage

    i love peg boards w/hooks... just like how things are hung in fly shops
    i keep smaller/workable amounts in old fly material ziplocks w/ the hole up top
    only problem... its on a wall where you have to look up and reach

    if you made some kind of integrated caddy/rolledex w/hook a bead holders
    a little something where you could have easy access to 5 different types of flies

    that would be more valuable than a fix/integraded vise


    my $0.015
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    RE: ATTN: ALL TYERS 2009/08/07 09:49:58 (permalink)
    Agreed. If you have a pedestal vise you can move it anywhere on the bench to make it comfortable. Storage on the other hand is important. One thing that drives me nuts is to have to dig through a drawer full of stuff to find the one thing that I want.

    I don't give a crap if anybody listens to me or not.
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