Screamin Steel
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Vicious Flourocarbon
Anyone tried this stuff? It sells at Walmart in sizes 8-20# and the price is under $10...I think $7.99 for 250 yds. I'm huge on buying made in USA and this stuff is made right here, that was what first grabbed my attention. I've been reading a lot of reviews and seems most guys really like it, other than a bad batch that hit the market a year or so ago. The manufacturer replaced free for anyone that bought the bad stuff, and since they all have good things to say about it. I'm probably going to order some in 4 and 6# for steelies. Sounds like it is tough stuff and a little more supple than some of the other brands. I mostly use Triple Fish and Vanish, but both seemed to want to fray on me last year.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 08:42:16
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I use Pline no issues 100% satisfied.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 09:05:58
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Is it 100% flouro? Or just flouro coated? My bets are it isn't 100% flouro at that price.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 09:21:04
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 09:33:08
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Not bad... $10 on their web site for 250yds
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 10:59:21
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Some bass pro's been using it in the heavier weights in and around thick structure with good results. Say it holds up very well to abrasion and casts easy, good knot strength. I'm all for trying new products as long as I have a tried and true backup in case of disaster.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 18:59:06
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I bought a spool of the 6# for leader material when I was trout fishing this past spring and it worked excellent for me. I have no complaints about it what-so-ever and it is very clear in water. I would recommend that line WAY before I would recommend Vanish. I have had nothing but bad luck with Vanish. The one thing I cannot speak to, is how low of a water temp you can use it in. Fluoro lines turn glassy and super brittle at low temps (in the 30s) and snap like 1 pound line.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 19:01:40
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Oh, another thing, If you are going to use it for steelhead, feel free to up your weight a little bit. I fished with 12 pound last year in crystal clear water with more success than anyone else at my hole. In fact, the only other guy that actually caught a fish had 2 pound mono on. The fluoro is invisible, so go heavy so you can fight a bruiser if you get one. That's how I landed my 14 pounder last year.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 19:03:50
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seaguar for me; i'll pay the extra. last fall made the switch to fluros and the man at gander put me on to triple fish. what a disaster. lost every steelhead on elk one morning due to this line breaking or knots slipping. Talked to Poor Richard and researched on-line and found out all fluors not created equal. cold water can affect line strength and knot integrity. Mike Bleech couldn't say enough about triple fish in one of his columns at the beginning of this year (great fluro for the money), I can only assume his was used in warmer water conditions. Since then I've traded my spinning gear for flies, and use only seaguar fluro for leader material. Held up nicely in the cold waters of late winter/early spring. Going to the AbrazX this fall to see how it does on the rocks. Check out Seaguars home page for info on the different fluros out there. Also, if anyone else had this problem with triple fish fluro let me know it wasn't just me; really need to shut my buddy up.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 19:07:32
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I'll second the nod to Seaguar. I've been using 6# InvizX on my noodle rod with good results. Havent yet lost a fish due to line breakage. Even slightly abraided, the line stood up to big fish in cold weather. InvizX has some stretch too (compared to other fluoros), which helps.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 19:22:41
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I use 40lb Fireline with my Yankee fly...Haven't had any problems.........
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 19:23:54
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On a more serious note, I use 4lb Pline on my noodle and like Kingnuke, no complaints with it...
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 22:23:46
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haven't tried it yet, but i'll agree on vanish sucking. hate all berkley line. Stren is my all time favorite if you can find it in flouro, seems like the stren is way stronger for the diameter than higher pound lines. Alo had very good luckwith cajun line. supposedly its invisible as red is the first color to go underwater.
post edited by DJ2007 - 2009/08/04 22:24:26
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 22:30:08
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ORIGINAL: Cold I'll second the nod to Seaguar. I've been using 6# InvizX on my noodle rod with good results. Havent yet lost a fish due to line breakage. Even slightly abraided, the line stood up to big fish in cold weather. InvizX has some stretch too (compared to other fluoros), which helps. Seconded 100%
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/04 22:35:26
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ORIGINAL: DJ2007 haven't tried it yet, but i'll agree on vanish sucking. I havent met you yet but I'll agree you're a BSer. Heaven forbid you try something before you bash it. I've used Vanish (2#) quite a bit in warmer weather and it did fine. Never used it in cold weather, so I cant really say anything either way about it.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 00:09:10
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I've used Vanish for about 2 years now in all temps including through the ice and it has mostly treated me well. Increases the fish count, but does tend to get brittle a bit quicker than other lines. For mono situations I'm using Cajun Red more and more, especially in muddy water. Knots like a dream and super strong.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 02:04:51
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Do you guys use a float for steel? If so, why waste all that money plus fishing with 100% flourocarbon which sinks? I have tried most all the lines on the market and have finally settled for one and only one set up. 8lb. Hi-vis Siglon F main line tipped with flourocarbon of choice. 8lb Siglon is the same diameter as some 4lb monos and most 6lb flouros. The stuff is perfect for line tending and mending unlike flourocarbon lines which are a pain in the **** to mend. The flouro I like to use is Ashima, but its hard to find anymore....I'll also use Seguar or Frogs hair, but I believe any flouro would work....for me the mainline is one of the keys along with my weighting set-up. Tight lines. Oh yeah...I'll vouch for Vanish sucking I used it once.......once!
post edited by ShutUpNFish - 2009/08/05 02:07:44
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 09:00:10
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ORIGINAL: deetz4352 ORIGINAL: Cold I'll second the nod to Seaguar. I've been using 6# InvizX on my noodle rod with good results. Havent yet lost a fish due to line breakage. Even slightly abraided, the line stood up to big fish in cold weather. InvizX has some stretch too (compared to other fluoros), which helps. Seconded 100% Third 100% Seaguar Grandemax Glen
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 10:17:40
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Spiderwire 100% flourocarbon ultra cast. Switched to it last fall and very happy with the results. Very abrasion resistent and casts with ease. Good knot strength.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 13:37:27
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How long of a leader do you guys use when you add the flouro? I've never used a leader before. I did make the mistake of spooling 8 lb Vanish, and after 6 casts I got to spend the next 10 minutes respooling with mono. I was so mad at the Vanish I called them the next day. It's nice to see I wasn't the only one that didn't care for that product. My biggest issue was the sinking. Having never used flouro before I couldn't keep my main line off the bottom, even with a float. It just kept snagging. Should I expect that with all flouros? I kinda shied away after that experience, but after doing a lot of reading I can see I am probably missing out on some steel.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 14:00:50
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Fluoro IS denser than mono, and as such, it will sink faster, yes. I read a really good side-by-side comparison of different fluoros a while back...I'll have to look through my delicious account and see if I can find it...
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 14:18:07
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Thanks Cold, I appreciate the help.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 14:21:31
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 20:43:50
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18" to 24" of flouro leader is all I use. Connected by a small blackbird barrel swivel.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 21:18:54
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 21:22:49
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Wow and everyone said I'm dumb for saying vanish line sucks. I just use 4-6 pound mono for steelies and do fine. I'm gonna try that new flurocarbon though.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 21:24:15
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And by the way I saw it in 4-20 pound at walmart in Fairview when i was there the other day just sayin if your looking for that light 4-6 pound stuff
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/05 22:20:32
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ORIGINAL: ShutUpNFish 18" to 24" of flouro leader is all I use. Connected by a small blackbird barrel swivel. Thanks a lot for answering the length question. I think I will check out some PLine.
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/06 15:57:40
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i used vanish last year in 4 and 6 lb.i had no problem with either.this was the 1st time ive used the flourocarbon line and now im spoiled.lol.i put it on around late october,and used it the rest of the season for me.(mid january).the only problem i had was,i couldnt crimp the splitshot too tight or it would snap the line at the splitshot when i hooked a fish.i had to learn how much to crimp.needless to say i went through a lot of shot last year...a small price to pay for catchin steel
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RE: Vicious Flourocarbon
2009/08/06 16:38:51
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Yeah I agree about the line weight however, I only use 10-12 pound fluro for casting spoons off the pier thats it. I use 4-6 pound, possibly 8 pound when its extremely murky for steelies
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