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2009/08/01 05:00:03 (permalink)

Earliest "run" you can recollect

Here's one for you old veterans on the erie tibs. When is the earliest "run" of good numbers of steelhead that you can recall? I know there are a few oddballs caught in August/ early September each year.....picks up more reliably into October with RAINFALL being the key ingredient. I'm thinking with the trend this year of all the rain...if it continues, could bring good numbers a bit earlier. Got my first trip scheduled for Oct 9-12...which is a couple weeks earlier than I've ever gone. Some years even two weeks later than that date finds streams low and clear and fish jammed up in the first couple hundred yards or less before they get stuck. Hoping for the rainy trend to keep going into the fall and possibly usher in the really good fishing a little earlier than the last few years.
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    STEALYS4ME
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 07:27:25 (permalink)
    End of august.  Was up there mid sept, in shorts and tennis shoe hammering the steel last yr,
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 08:53:31 (permalink)
    Second that for last year and most years. How many do you consider a run? First week of September last year I had an 8 fish day in shorts. And that didn't involve standing in the lake.
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 08:59:49 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Screamin Steel

    ...I know there are a few oddballs caught in August/ early September each year.....picks up more reliably into October with RAINFALL being the key ingredient. ....



    ahhh

    i think you just answered you own question
    .... when the weather is cool and it rains



    its like asking "when do you think you will be able to ice fish?".... when the water freezes
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 09:42:29 (permalink)
    Zing.
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 10:01:39 (permalink)
    Jan?
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 12:37:39 (permalink)
    I'd have to say about 15-16 years ago.  I remember going up in early Sept to scout and we found tons of fish in lower Elk, got sunburned fishing for two days. Nobody else around.  Not like that anymore.  Best run lately has been sept 28th three years ago.  Right after the long cold rain, or was it 4 years?  Somebody help an old man out.

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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 12:44:53 (permalink)
    Something I don't understand about these "remember when" posts:  whenever some of us "oldtimers" report on how things used to be, and then give the truthful statement that it isn't the same as before, everyone thinks we are lying and tries to run up to the tribs really early?  My honest opinion is that, for some reason, the runs (full runs) have been coming later and later in the season.  Now yes you do get some early fish, but not in the numbers as before.  That's why I hold the "One Fly" close to the middle of October, I'm trying to match the start of the big run.  (hasn't worked out that way lately because of no rain).  Seems the really good runs have been occuring after the 1st snowfall.
         So my best advice is:  Scout early and be prepared to fish but don't expect anything really good till after the middle of October.

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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 13:42:50 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: 6point7

    Zing.

     
    it may have soundsed a bit smart****ed....
     
    but honestly... it is weather depended...
    these fish will not push if there is no water and it is too warm...
    once conditions are favorable more fish will show and continue to push while conditions allow
     
    a few days of weather in Sept can let fish in... but 3 weeks of dry can keep them stuck and flighty
     
     
     
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 13:51:37 (permalink)
    when do the steel start schooling up in the lakes before they go into the creeks? actaully on second thought dont answer that all the trout run yuppies will be there tommorrow if you say something :-)
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 16:09:31 (permalink)
    Minnie,
    Actually, a heck of a lot more stage outside of 20mile, Elk and Walnut where they have access to deeper water. As of right now there should be some in the deeper water just outside the bay.

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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 16:30:12 (permalink)
    Saw a real good push on labor day weekend 2006...  "Double digit" numbers were easily had and fish were found well upstream.  Some of you may have been there...  The weather pattern was perfect, stream came up and so did the fish.  I remember fishing the Manchester hole September 9th i believe (following weekend), and 4 of us had around 300 fish to ourselves until mid morning...

    I've had that happen a couple times, but thats the year that I definitely remember. 

    I havent noticed any trend of the runs getting later.  Theres always a few early dudes around by labor day, fishable numbers by mid September, and you'll be tripping over them by October in the lower streams...  regardless of weather.

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    post edited by fishrmn - 2009/08/01 16:38:19
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 17:06:11 (permalink)
    I know in 1999 the run was early and heavy. Think I landed 2 kings on Sept. 9th. One in Elk and 1 in Walnut. Back in late Aug. of 1992 I caught a pile of Steelys off of the mouth of Cowel's beach. In Late Aug. of 1993 I landed 3 Steelys in 20 mile above Rt. 5 bridge.
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 17:42:58 (permalink)
    It all depends on where your fishing.

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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 18:31:07 (permalink)
    first cool rain in sept = hammer-time
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 21:25:02 (permalink)
    The earliest I've seen big numbers in shallow was Labor day weekend 2000.   There were thousands in the lower ends of the creeks, water was low/clear but cool. Lake temps were cool that summer as well.  The fish numbers in early Sept. that year looked more like early October on most years.   I don't know whether a higher percentage of the overall run came in earlier that year than normal, or if that year there were just so many out there that instead of the normal couple hundred that would be around that time of year, they became a couple thousand. who knows?
    post edited by Stillhead - 2009/08/01 21:44:08
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/01 22:46:50 (permalink)
    tomorrow

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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/02 03:09:16 (permalink)
    i caught them last year in wal nut on september 6th!  Can not wait til the steel enter them streams!
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/02 05:26:26 (permalink)
    1983 in boot camp..They got us up at 4am to RUN for some reason..
     
     

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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/02 20:40:48 (permalink)
    1st week of August in 85 degree heat landed 5 in elk. That was about 6-7 years ago.
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/02 23:39:38 (permalink)
    some years you'll get them at the end of july & some years almost oct.
    just depending on the weather.
     
    i have seen in prior year's i believe it was before labor day about 6 or 7 years ago we had a nice 200 to 300 fish over night run, i believe that was the earlyest i have seen.
     
    as of right now if you want to waist gas for a couple and i mean a couple fresh steelhead. there here fish all night untill the sun comes up & you may get 1 or 2 if you are lucky . if i didn't live so close to elk or walnut i would not be fishing for steel so early. today my son & i were out and seen about 3 or 4 ok size steelhead jumping at mouth of --------- creek & about 10 real small ones .& some brownies.  the nice thing was there were only us two & 2 other's looking to try for the steel.
     
    as i said if i lived farther than mc kean i would wait till late sept. or early oct.
     
    although just being out is reward enough. yes catching a steel  or nice brown is a bonus.
    post edited by powerun - 2009/08/03 00:21:05
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 07:57:15 (permalink)
    They were runnin into the box on the boat the last 3 days. 15-17 miles away from walnut. You think they making that swim nightly. Although a few were picked in the first trench over the weekend.
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 14:24:10 (permalink)
    The past couple years had the big run on the weekend AFTER columbus day... ;-)

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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 16:08:40 (permalink)
    September 9th 3 years ago.

    Had 150 + fish in two holes on the east side.  Also saw 3 in a middle section of a trib.
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 16:31:41 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Loomis

    September 9th 3 years ago.

    Had 150 + fish in two holes on the east side.  Also saw 3 in a middle section of a trib.


     
     
    That's really nothing out of the ordinary at all. Most of the internet guru's might not believe it, but that's pretty much normal for that time.
     
    A big mistake most folks make in early season is expecting the fish to be easy to see when the water is low and clear.  By the time the sun gets high enough to see they usually find a place to hide, and it's not always "back to the lake" like many think. They can hide better than most think.
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 16:34:57 (permalink)
    Agreed, just dont want to give anyone the wrong idea if u know what I mean.
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 16:44:23 (permalink)
    Really, as far as the time of year steelhead enter shallow water (be it the lakeshore, lower streams, or even upstream)  they are very predictable and things happen at ALMOST the same time every year.  The amount of water may effect the numbers of fish moving any distance upstream, but if the water is low and they want to run, there's just that many more stacked in the lower stretches and the lake.
     
     
     There are always a few fish that have the urge to run earlier than the others, and when water flow and temperatures are perfect, I believe some of the fish that aren't QUITE ready to go follow the early fish, and we get a "EARLY RUN".
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 19:46:15 (permalink)
    I agree with Stillhead 100%...  that duud spends more time probing for early steel than anyone I know. 
     
    To add to what Jim said, early fish always seem to hang in the same places...  Usualy what happens every year is some duud takes a quick walk up and down the stream and sees nothing, deeming it void of fish.  When in fact there very well may be dozens, or even hundreds around.  I know I've personaly had schools of 100+ early runners vanish before my eyes, only to re-appear minutes later.
     
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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 19:58:11 (permalink)
    The earliest runs I recall, have occured after a night of cheap beer, and Mexican food. It's almost a guarantee.

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    RE: Earliest "run" you can recollect 2009/08/03 20:55:15 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: spoonchucker

    The earliest runs I recall, have occured after a night of cheap beer, and Mexican food. It's almost a guarantee.

     
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