chumming for carp

ive been trying to get the hang of chumming up carp for a couple years w limited success. i usually carp fish local ponds and i know theres tons of carp in them. i usually fish w corn and throw in about 3/4 of a can of corn into a shallow flat that ive seen carp at before,and then throw my bait in the same area. im starting to think im not using nearly enough corn and im not waiting long enough to throw my bait in. i almost always leave my bait in for at least two hours. should i be dumping in like 20lb of corn the night before i plan to fish? or is chumming a relatively small amount right before i fish also productive? should i see carp before i chum and throw it in front of their general path? the most carp ive ever caught in one day is two... ive also been trying smaller hooks, but if theres no carp at your corn a size 20 hook wont do u any good ne way( i havent been using size 20, more like a 12). any tips would of course be greatly appreciated. carp haters need not reply

ORIGINAL: FishinGuy

ive been trying to get the hang of chumming up carp for a couple years w limited success. i usually carp fish local ponds and i know theres tons of carp in them. i usually fish w corn and throw in about 3/4 of a can of corn into a shallow flat that ive seen carp at before,and then throw my bait in the same area. im starting to think im not using nearly enough corn and im not waiting long enough to throw my bait in. i almost always leave my bait in for at least two hours. should i be dumping in like 20lb of corn the night before i plan to fish? or is chumming a relatively small amount right before i fish also productive? should i see carp before i chum and throw it in front of their general path? the most carp ive ever caught in one day is two... ive also been trying smaller hooks, but if theres no carp at your corn a size 20 hook wont do u any good ne way( i havent been using size 20, more like a 12). any tips would of course be greatly appreciated. carp haters need not reply

What?  We have carp haters on here?

The answers to your questions are dependent on several factors-----location, time of year/day, size/kind of water, weather etc, etc.  There's no one absolute right answer.  Location is always the most important factor-----find the fish or where you know or think the fish will be and that's usually more than half the battle. 
You say you're fishing ponds so I'm guessing that means smaller waters-----less than 100 acres?  In general, the larger the water water=more chum.  Always can be exceptions tho.

The simplest/cheapest bait most carpers use is shelled field corn soaked and/or boiled in water to soften it up some------cheaper than canned corn for mass/long term baiting, but a little work. 
Lately when preparing hard corn, I've been bringing a big pot (20 quart) half full of H2O to a rapid boil first, then dump several cups of corn let come back to a boil for a bit, then dump several more cups in and let in boil for a while longer (no longer than an hour boil time usually needed).  Then turn off heat and dump in a few more cups of corn, stir and let cool.  Add water to keep corn covered as it swells.  I dump the corn in, in stages, so I get a mixture of softer and harder corn.  I also like to dump some smaller particle/seeds in the mix when boiling------hard wheat, bird seeds, etc.  When cool enough, dump into bucket(s) (I usually make 5 gal. at a time) or cooler and you're good to go.  That's just one way to do it-------lots of options to bait preparation.
Some guys like to take the boiled corn and run it through a hand-cranked grinder right on shore (or beforehand) and make what some call meilie bom, which is just another term for corn packbait.  Ya can take the ground corn and pack it around your baited hook and once in the water the pack will breakdown and give the carp a bigger target to hone in on and hopefully get them feeding and pick up your hookbait eventually-----an overbait/underbait system.  Lots of other packbaits/groundbaits that can be made from various ingredients like oats and soybean meal too-----these can be used fishing or chumming.

Some carpers like to bait a likely fishing spot(s) for a few days and then top off the bait as ya start catching, the day ya fish.  Sometimes it may not be necessary to pre-bait or an area may already be baited for ya-----where people feed the ducks.  All depends on the conditions you're fishing.

There's various other things that can be used for chumming, like squeezed, balled up slices of bread (can get it cheap at a bread outlet store) so it sinks and the **** waterfowl can't get at it as easy.  Tons of other bait/chum available for carp at grain/feed stores------the options are endless----just gotta experiment and find a baiting system that works for ya.

2. then I use a special bait bait I use that catches carp like no other

P.S.-      P.M. me for the secret bait because anyone can make it and it works amazing and stays on the hook easily

 
Bet ya my baits are more durable and will out slaughter anything you have ......

clearwater, next time try making "spawnsacks" out of mesh material when using that bait. the mesh allows the bait to stay on the hook while letting the flavor & smell ooze out. I also use that method to use chicken liver for cats. Works for me.  sam

Funny stuff.

thanks alot for the info carper, that field corn does seem like alot of work though. does it float if you dont boil it or something? cuz if it doesnt, how about throwing in a few pounds of dry stuff and coming back the next day w a $.50 can of corn from the dollar store for your hook? i mostly fish twin lakes, mamoth park lake, and BY park lake. usually while blue gill fishing for flathead bait :)

 
LOL duud you need to prep the stuff (FYI it isn't alot of work ), you know what happens when birds eat dried rice.....if the carp eats enough of the dry corn it SWELLS in their stomachs and then you know what happens.....

ORIGINAL: Mountian Man

2. then I use a special bait bait I use that catches carp like no other

P.S.-      P.M. me for the secret bait because anyone can make it and it works amazing and stays on the hook easily

Bet ya my baits are more durable and will out slaughter anything you have ......

 
Yeah but mine is found in most peoples houses and is affordible on any budget

Well I don't know where to buy them. And fine I'll give away the secret, two pieces of bread together with peanut butter in the middle to hold the hook in. Sounds so basic but when you can get 3 carp in 27 minutes your doing pretty good

Kastmasterpro a lot of the baits for carp fishing the ones you don't hear about often really are not too expensive.The problem is the bulk amounts and storing them. I get oats in 50lb bags for around $17.I myself have around 500+lbs of different feeds in the garage for different mixes I make but I fish a lot so getting bulk is cost effective for me. Saves a ton of money in the long run but most people don't want to purchase bulk. Even home made boilies can be made for rooughly $2-3 a pound but may not be as affective as a name brand since the ingredients differe.