Cold
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Cutts
Just curious, is there a biological reason why we can't have cutthroats in our streams?
Not saying it'd be a good idea to introduce another non-native species, but if the bows and browns do so well in our waters, is there something that we lack that cutts need? Colder water? Faster water? Some pH issue? I'm just wondering if there's a natural reason why it was never attempted (maybe it was, and was later cancelled), or if it was attempted, what the results were.
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WV has some... not native.
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I thought I had read somewhere that the State of Maryland used to stock cutthroats in the North Branch of the Potomac. They use to call catching a brown, rainbow, brookie, and a cutty, "The North Potomac Grand Slam." Or something like that.
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There is a state with 3 waterways that are still know to have Cutthroats in the mid-atlantic there are 2 other states that had (at one time) cutthroats in the water - a documented cast from the late 1800s of escaped fish that have since "died out" - in the 30s another state stocked cutthroats 3 different years... with "failed results" there is also another state that has documented stockings in the 50s and 70s... with no recent data
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But I guess what I'm asking is...do they coexist well with other eastern fish populations? Are conditions favorable to their continued presence here? And if so, why arent they being stocked?
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Some time ago, I was fishing with a retired WCO from PA. He mentioned that PA either had or was going to experiment with either cutt or cuttbow trout but then decided against it. I can't remember why. Next time I see him, I'll ask.
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dano- i've heard the same
i had a thread last year with a pic of what i thought was a cuttbow from a SWPA stream
i sent it to the local WCO... with no real reply
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That's interesting. Thanks...both of you. Not sure why this question never occurred to me before. I might have to go on an Eastern Cutt quest at some point! 
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That's interesting. Thanks...both of you.
Not sure why this question never occurred to me before.
I might have to go on an Eastern Cutt quest at some point!
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dano- i've heard the same
i had a thread last year with a pic of what i thought was a cuttbow from a SWPA stream
i sent it to the local WCO... with no real reply
This year (Early May) I caught a cuttbow in a SWPA freestoner. I took pictures of the slash under the jaw, but they came out blurry. I know of one South West WV spring creek that has cuttbows mixed in with tires, shopping carts, appliances, trash bags and empty bleach bottles. This stream has never "officially" been stocked. A train broke down next to it carrying a load of cutts and rainbows for a private stocking, and the fishh were dumped in there, many years ago. That's the local legend, anyway.
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Hendey, That is true. There are some in the North Branch. I'm not sure if they stock them anymore, but there are still some there... Also, I caught one last summer in a place you would never suspect it. I was pretty surprised...
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That's a great pic! I'll have to do some reading, maybe this fall I'll head out to see if I can get one.
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The cuttthroat fingerlings are supposed to be still stocked in the north branch of the Potomac. ( around md. and w.v.) From everything I gathered. I'm gonna get a trip together. If I land even 1 if its 5 inches its worth the trip to me.I Let u guys know. * pick I found on the internet of a cutt on Potomac from md 
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I'm not a biologist by any means but I believe the biggest thing why we dont see any/many cutts and hybrids around here is they dont handle competition well.
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"cuttthroats" not handling competition well... Anyone else seeing the irony in this?? 
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A fishing guide out in Montana told me that the native strains of rainbows and cutthroats only crossbreed on rare occasions, but that strains of stocked rainbows tend to crossbreed with native strains of cutthroats at a much higher rate and the result is bastardized cuttbows. In the Kootenai where I fished last year, I caught cutthroats, rainbows and some fish that looked to be crossbred.
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