MagicMidgeMan
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Grannom Caddis
Anybody have pattern suggestions for Grannoms on the Little J.? I got a dark chocolate dubbing for the body, green cdc for the egg laying sac and dark cdc for the wing. Is that good? And what about emergers and pupae? Any suggestions on those would be greatly appreciated.
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thedrake
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 18:16:21
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I was just tying some pupa and larva. I'll post a pic of what I tie. For the adult, I tie a natural cdc wing over a black or very dark brown body. Some with an egg sack, and some without. On some of the dries, i'll tie in a short clear zlon shuck about the same lenth as the hook shank. For the egglayers, I tie a beadhead soft hackle with an bright green egg sack.
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MagicMidgeMan
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 18:20:20
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thedrake, I would def. appreciate some pics. What do you use for the body on the soft hackle. I love soft hackle flies!
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thedrake
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 18:37:24
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Sorry these are so out of focus. I may try with a different camera later on.... I can't figure out how to turn the auto focus off.... Larva Pupa
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MagicMidgeMan
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 19:01:57
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What dubbing is that on the pupae? Is that muskrat for the head?
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thedrake
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 21:38:11
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The larva has dk brown rabbit dubbing. The pupae has black superfine dubbing.
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MagicMidgeMan
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 21:39:44
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thedrake, thanks for the pattern suggestions.
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 21:58:52
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drake... use your macro feature... picture of a tulip
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thedrake
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 22:58:27
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Just found the tulip.... I'll replace those pics tomorrow, and maybe add some.
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/08 23:45:55
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My tulip doesnt work... Nice looking flies, though, drake! In the next few weeks, with the weather finally figuring out that it's January, I'm going to really try to expand my ability in tying, and caddis are the main bug on most streams I fish, so I may try some of these.
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/09 16:17:19
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cold, when tying caddis dries you might want to add some head cement or glue on the shaft where you'll tie the deer hair in. this will keep the deer/elk hair from spinning on the hook when fishing. bear hair makes a great grannom for the wing.
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/09 17:40:16
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Jer, In the link I attached, there is a video by Hans Weilenmann of a caddis pattern. Half way through the video, it shows a quick easy way of winging the caddis with hair. I've been doing it this way for a couple of years using only three turns of thread. Amazingly, the hair stays put very well. Click for CDC & Elk by Hans
post edited by dano - 2009/01/09 18:01:57
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/10 04:04:22
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ORIGINAL: dano Jer, In the link I attached, there is a video by Hans Weilenmann of a caddis pattern. Half way through the video, it shows a quick easy way of winging the caddis with hair. I've been doing it this way for a couple of years using only three turns of thread. Amazingly, the hair stays put very well. Click for CDC & Elk by Hans i'll have to try that out.
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/10 14:15:53
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ORIGINAL: Cold My tulip doesnt work... Nice looking flies, though, drake! In the next few weeks, with the weather finally figuring out that it's January, I'm going to really try to expand my ability in tying, and caddis are the main bug on most streams I fish, so I may try some of these. You'll want to learn soft hackles and sparkle pupas if you've got a lot of caddis.... and maybe read Caddisflies by G. Lafontaine. Best book on caddis.
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/10 20:26:58
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I figured out the tulip button. Apparently its not for taking pictures of flowers like I originally thought.... Larva: Pupa (sparkle pupa): dry with shuck: dry: diving egg layer:
post edited by thedrake - 2009/01/10 20:27:31
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thedrake
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/10 20:28:41
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ignore the olive thread on the egg layer. I ran out of black, which is what I typically use.
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dano
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/10 21:44:49
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Drake, I do a dry fly nearly similar to that 2nd from bottom pic. I'ts my #1 fish catcher for grannoms.
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/11 10:13:54
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i use black bear hair for the dry wing. in the clarion some caddis i seen have a distinct bluish egg sack. i tie the egg layers just like the dries i tie but i'll have to try the wet fly egg layer this year. great pics
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/11 10:34:03
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Drake posted probably the best patterns for grannoms on the J. The area shops seem to tie grannoms with deer hair. CDC is superior, no doubt about it.
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thedrake
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/11 13:38:42
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The soft hackled egg layer is a killer. I drop it off a adult with a deer hair wing, since deer hair seems to float a dropper better. I tie the egg layer with a bead and soft hackle since some caddis dive to lay their eggs. Does the black bear float well? I've never tried it.
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/13 12:59:40
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thedrake, I liked all of them especially the soft hackle one!
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/13 14:18:56
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the bear hair floats ok as long as you palmer a stiff short hackle over the body. i suppose you can mix it with drk. elk hair for better flotation and still keep the darker black wing color. once wet it takes longer to dry though. this is the grannom i've used on the big neshanook with great success. it also works as a searching pattern during the warm season. i guess it resembles an ant or any small black bug. ~dt
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RE: Grannom Caddis
2009/01/14 10:09:27
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Here is my cased caddis, very productive anywhere..... nothing but dubbing.... very simple.... but very deadly.
post edited by Sculpin 14 - 2009/01/14 10:12:03
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