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2008/11/30 18:31:12 (permalink)

Old Duud

For those of you who have been fishing for steel for a number of years, how (if at all) have you noticed the fishing changes as you get older?
 
For instance, 20 years ago I never had any trouble seeing fresh run salmon and steel in the creeks.  Now I walk up to a run or even a pool, and the guy I'm fishing with says, "See the fish?"
 
Most the time, I don't.  But I look harder, and make out two or three.  "Yeah," I say.
 
"Where?" he asks, calling my bluff.
 
I point out the the two or three I saw, and then he points out a dozen more (obviously I'm not talking about pools with hunreds of fish or fish that have been in the stream a while.  I can still see them.  Usually). 
 
I'm thinking it's time to get glasses.
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    pappy69
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/11/30 18:39:19 (permalink)
    Are you wearing polarized sunglasses? They reduce the glare and sunlight on the water and help you to see fish and other objects underwater.  Also, most people do need to get their eyes checked and probably some glasses by the time they hit 45+.  Good luck seeing those steelies.

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/11/30 18:52:19 (permalink)
    Thanks, Pappy.  I do wear polarized glasses, and amber ones at that.  In fact, I even checked them to be sure they really were polarized as claimed.  They were.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/11/30 19:53:01 (permalink)
    Dont feel too bad.  I was up today and had alot of trouble seeing them for some reason, even with polarized sunglasses AND an up to date contact lens prescription.  Not sure if there was just more color to the water than I thought, or what was going on, but they were really hard to spot.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/11/30 19:56:26 (permalink)
    I will second the polarized glasses and maybe the need for regular glasses. I have prescription polarized bifocals and they are a lifesaver for me. After talking to the Doc about the glasses he suggested making the bifocal a little bit stronger than my regular glasses to help with the finer things like tying on hooks and flys.

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/11/30 20:48:32 (permalink)
    Polarized glasses helps a whole bunch to see through the waters surface. But when you cant see down to the bottom or see fish in a run or a deeper hole learning to read the waters flow and currents will help you catch fish even though you cant see them there. Sight fishin to me is awesome. To see the fish come to your bait or fly and setting the hook is really cool to witness. As well its just as satisfying to read the water not knowing if fish are there and hooking up without seeing the fish. Get them glasses to help you see wishfishin , i dont wear glasses yet but im sure ill need em down the road and i wont hessitate to get em if i need em. Fish smarter not harder. and good fishin to you wishfishin.

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/11/30 21:27:22 (permalink)
    I don't want to see them.  Cause if you see them they see you.......

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/11/30 21:28:22 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: avidangler

    I don't want to see them.  Cause if you see them they see you.......
    well said agree totally!!!!!!

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/11/30 23:36:35 (permalink)
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/01 06:10:23 (permalink)
    I figure I see 20% of visible fish at best, probably seeing a few more than I did 20 years ago. No big deal, I've never been a sight fisherman, and yeah , they can see you too.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/01 08:16:22 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: wishfishin

    For those of you who have been fishing for steel for a number of years, how (if at all) have you noticed the fishing changes as you get older?




    Good thread, Wishfishin

    guess I've been chasing them better than 20 years.
    The changes for me......

    I don't feel the need the catch a million fish anymore
    not that I don't LOVE that, cause I do,  just that it's not a necessary component of me enjoying my outings now

    I'm not as compelled  to fish when the day time temps are below freezing .
    10-15 years ago, I'd fish in freezing  blizzard conditions, bust ice and fight creek slush trying to get a drift.
    Not anymore

    I don't feel I  "have to" bust hump at 4am to be the first guy in the million fish holes.
    Again, not that i don't LOVE being the first guy on a million fish hole, just that it's not as important to me now

    as far seeing fish, I can probably spot them better now.
    What I have noticed,(and it's always been like this for me)  I can fish a stretch of water and when I get there not see them, but after I spot the first fish, I'm able to spot a bunch a more where I couldn't see them at first.
    But there's still plenty I don't see.
    Can't count how many times I've been drifting to  fish I see and when my junk passes by a "flash" out on "nowhere " picks up my junk.


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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/01 08:39:12 (permalink)

    You have to watch out for those sneaky fish that "pick up your junk".  That could be painful...
     
    I know I am getting better at seeing fish and I am getting better at feeling the bite.  Steelies rarely will attack a fly or bait and run off with it.   Most  bites are very subtle.  I am getting better at feeling that.  Of course, that means I have become an expert at setting the hook on sticks, rocks and leaves... 
     
    Another thing that has changed for me is the competitive need to hit the streams before everyone and get the best drift.  If I catch fish, that is great, but if i don't that is OK as well.  All I want is to hook one fish each time I am on the streams.  Any more than that is a bonus.  I fish when I have time and when the conditions are good.  I feel less of a drive to be on the stream every waking moment.
     
    I also don't tolerate the cold weather as well as I used to so I don't fish as much when the temperatures drop below freezing.  Besides it is not much fun dealing with all your stuff freezing up.
     
    I have come to realize that steelies will hit just about any fly or bait you put in front of them is presented correctly.  They do have certain preferences on different days, but there is no secret fly or bait; some work better one day than others, but all will work.  That means I am gradually carrying fewer different fly patterns.  Basically, I have glo bugs and sucker spawns, pheasant tails and copper johns, wooly buggers and streamers.  I do enjoy experimenting with fly patterns, but I usually stick to the basics.
     
    Lastly, I am enjoying fishing with friends more.  I do like the solitude sometimes, but it is also fun to be in the streams with friends.
     
     
     
     

    pax vobiscum +
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/01 09:02:13 (permalink)
    To be honest, with unwordly return rates I assume there are fish in every run, riffle, pool, and hole.  Now that is a slight exaggeration 'cause there aren't gonna be many fish in a fast run in 30 degree water, but you get what I mean.  THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!  Now if they make a pair of shades that helps me chose the right fly and make the right drift, then I'll buy those!
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/01 10:53:47 (permalink)
    It's kind of like spotting deer in the woods. If you look for the whole deer,you'll miss a lot. You look for the twitch of an ear or a patch of white that doesn't belong. It's the same for fish, look for a swaying tail or a moving fin. You see that and it's amazing how the whole fish just pops into view.

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/01 11:19:28 (permalink)
    Folks that have hunted them, have said the same even of Elephants. They are amazinngly difficult to spot, as one looks for an Elephant, rather than an Elephant behind a bush.

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/01 11:33:30 (permalink)
    thats funny they see us and they think how ugly we see them and say wow good looking fish???? mmm get the eyes checked or you may just need a dose of vitms
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/01 12:14:05 (permalink)
    I agree with avidangler I would rather not see the fish. When I dont see the fish I tend to make more time fishing holes and pockets.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/02 12:39:23 (permalink)
    Keep your eyes closed.  But then I fall asleep and start dreaming of em....
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/02 19:04:11 (permalink)
    I don't know about you all, but it can help me to see a fish or two just to have an idea the water they are frequenting.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 11:35:18 (permalink)
    Fully understand and appreciate your post. Don't like fighting the frigid conditions anymore and use polarized glasses for eye comfort especially if there is any sun at all. If you look into an area and see any underwater movement there are usually several more fish in the immediate area.

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 12:42:38 (permalink)
    Been fishing the creeks over 30 years and I can still spot em ! I see all 5 of these Steelies in this hole !
    post edited by CAPTAIN HOOK - 2008/12/03 12:43:22

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 12:55:20 (permalink)
    There's five fish in that hole?!  No way! 
     
    Thanks, CH, you made me laugh.  That's always appreciated.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 13:05:03 (permalink)
    My buddy tells me my eyes r goin bad.....I think the fish are just wearin fish-o-flauge. I agree with some of the above posts. When I hunt or fish I'm lookin for movement, not fish or game.....easier to spot.

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 13:58:08 (permalink)
    They say the memory is the second thing to go, I can't remember what the first was!

    Curiosity killed the cat, but for awhile I was a suspect.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 16:44:36 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: CAPTAIN HOOK

    Been fishing the creeks over 30 years and I can still spot em ! I see all 5 of these Steelies in this hole !



    Why Heck, I only see Two !!! I was told I'd go blind if I didn't stop playing with that !!!!!    
    post edited by CRANKMASTER - 2008/12/03 17:07:29
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 17:02:41 (permalink)
    Captain hook,
     
    How old is that pic?    Only reason I ask is there appears to be a coho or maybe even two in there.  Can any of you old duuds pick it out?
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 19:28:56 (permalink)
    Duud I bet the pic is old, and the one is a coho. The other may or may not be.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 20:33:33 (permalink)
    All I know is that there are a lot of stressed fish in that hole.  Most are head down and tail up.   Also there's an empty bottle of vicoden in the lower right.

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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 22:27:36 (permalink)
    How about the fish in the foreground with the white gums?  As usual, I never would've seen it if you hadn't pointed it out.
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    RE: Old Duud 2008/12/03 22:27:42 (permalink)
    thR aLl sKRs duuud gAt soM glsssis.....wrs guru?

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