What is the cost of a Okuma center pin? Do you need a fly rod or spinning rod for the pin?

Will I use a spinning rod or fly rod? WHat length?

ORIGINAL: KJH807

Slickfish

i guess my "pinner mentality" is a collection of these thoughts
I am not saying all float rodders/ centerpinner have these traits

- drifts through the whole pool/ feeling entitlement to the whole pool due to pinner gear
- harvesting large numbers of fish for the single use of eggs to catch more fish
- thinking the whole reason to fish is a ##s game, the 84 hook ups with 67 landed BS

 
 
 
i don't pin, but my buddies andy and jerry do . they are good at it and hook lots of fish. they only use the amount of the run that is available to them and don't infringe on other drifters. of course they fish bigger water than the pa runoff creeks. i haven't seen either one of them keep a steelhead in the last 5 years. who wants to fish with skein? a week at ontario usually provides enough loose brown  eggs for 4 or 5 years.
pin fishing is an art like any other technique. the guys who are good are deadly. the people who give pins a bad name are from canada     glen

Roy,
 
I must say,that is one of the most well written, thought out reponses that I have read in a long while! You are exactly right!

ORIGINAL: KJH807

BUT
you get some pinners who think their method entitles them to more of the stream than others...

My opinion
the "advantage" of pinners is their LONG downstream drag free drift
it is an adaptation of a combination of fly and spin gear
in erie due to #s of people the long downstream drift is unreasonable, intrusive/ selfish, and poor etiquette (in most situations)

i also don't like the idea of harvesting browns and stream cleaning strictly for their eggs

 
I agree, you do have a number of people who do in fact choose to disreguard others when on the stream by attempting to run these mile long drifts, but in my experience these individuals are the same people who do not undertstand  the mentioned issues/methods in my above post.
 
I must disagree however with your comment in regard to the "advantage" of utilizing a pin. Long drifts make for poor presetation, pin or not, control is a factor. Yes, 13'-15' float rods do help to extend your drag free drift, but even they have limitations. Most of the time, the limitations are within the comfort zone of other anglers on the stream. Control of speed, depth, and angle of presentation are your true key factors, not the length of a said drift. I have been a float fisherman for a good portion of my steelheading days, and I will say that when it is to my benefit (small numbers of people on the strraem) I enjoy fishing a pin, but most often you will find me with a noodle and spin, which I can do just fine with anytime. BTW, yes, I fish eggs, and yes I fish bait, but I also fish many fly patterns as well while floatfishing. You will always have those who disreguard the fishery or outdoors in general, but it is not specific to any one type of fisherman no matter what tactic he or she employs as a means to catch fish. 

As long as a person legally catches a fish, is it within their right to keep said fish - for both the meat and eggs.
 
 

Yeah- I'm a head case. I also like Arizona Green Tea.

Jeebus. This is why I never venture that way when the Browns come to town.
I'd likely end up in jail.

KJ- your in box is full.

I agree Roy....I can pretty much do with my spin outfit what the pinners do with theirs.  I just want one so I can look good out there on the streams and everyone can envy me the way KJH envys all centerpinners!

ORIGINAL: ShutUpNFish

I agree Roy....I can pretty much do with my spin outfit what the pinners do with theirs.  I just want one so I can look good out there on the streams and everyone can envy me the way KJH envys all centerpinners!

there is nothing like the sound of smashing glass floats in the morning...

I've only fished once near a pinner.
 
We were the only two on the creek.
 
It was crowded.
 
 

I am an ethical sportsman that, at times, chooses to keep fish that I have legally caught.
 
I do not remove the eggs from brown trout on the stream bank. I wait till I get home.
 
However, I do "bleed them out" immediately after I humanely dispatch them.
 
I'd love to fish near you some day.
 
p.s. - do you fish with a hook? 
 

Pinners suck.  They are nothing but abunch of fish counting and fish killing machines. I disagree with the ones who must kill fish to catch fish. Getting a perfect drift with the addition of fresh eggs is just overkill. Where is the challenge? Which leads me into the pinners who only drift flies. At least they know that the advantage is all thiers and they dont nead those smelly eggs. But those are the ones who like to travel in groups. They come next to you, pop abunch and when the fishing slows they move to the next spot and do it to the next set of guys. I've seen it way to many times. I wish those stupid things stayed north of the border. I remember the good ole days when those stupid things werent around.