ORIGINAL: salmotrutta

ORIGINAL: great spots

I went to down to the black hole and I saw about 20 fish coming up thru the fast water. A very intresting thing happened down there today. One of douglaston men came across the river today and I thought for sure he was going to kick me out but he didnt. He then riped the all the posted signs of the trees. I asked him what he was doing that for and said that there is some kind of problem with the property. This guy was legit because wile he was talking to me the lady at the office was talking to him on the his radio. I had him ask her if I can fish there. She asked him what side I was on and did he take the posted signs down yet. He told her i was on the cliff side not on the island and yes he said about the posted signs. She said that I could fish there because theres no posted signs there. My Question is this. Why the hell would they take the signs down if they are leasing it. Do they really lease it? I think some one should look into this who lives up there because this deal looks shady. Also take a look at the DEC public rights access map for the river because according to that they have rights to middle of the river down to the end of island. Also dont posted signs need to be signed not stamped. I hooked 12 salmon today. There spread out cover alot of water and you will see fish.

Breaking news. Very odd also. Thanks for the report.

ORIGINAL: salmotrutta

Hell- I thought we were talking about the town pool?
At any rate it seems the Black is open to the rakers once again. Good- I didn't want them migrating to my one spot I like to fish where there's hardly ever another soul.

ORIGINAL: SPIKER

ORIGINAL: OldSalt

There already exits additional posted private lands along the SR that you cannot fish, mainly because of access. I'm not going to mention the areas, but anyone who fishes the whole river will know them.

Sorry folks, but more than likely this is what is in the future. Look around you at other States, rivers. More and more conservation areas, catch and release, artificials only, fly-fishing only, etc.

We have only ourselves to blame if you do not like new regulations and private water. Everything that is bad about the fishing experience, ie: litter, mono snags, crowds, abuse, disturbing fish, etc. is addressed and the main reason for private, pay or exclusive water. It's not the complete answer, but a step towards that answer.

You want to fish for the queen of all fresh water game fish: Atlantic Salmon in Canada, well 90% of all the Atlantic Salmon Rivers are heavily regulated and non-residents must hire a Gilly(Guide) to fish with them, beside much of the water being private and put in a lottery.

So remember the next time your fishing the SR or any river, respect it in all aspects, even if no one is around.

Some one is always watching and you always leave a footprint.

Tight Lines,

OldSalt

Its all about the money not the Garbage,any one not retarded can see that!!!!!Wanna go fishing in back of her shop http://www.fishthesalmonriver.com/modules.php?name=News&new_topic=2 buy something,wanna fish the DSR PAY US.Wonder what they actually paid/did to get the new property at DSR?

ORIGINAL: JUNIOREK

I read on another board that DSR has expanded further upriver.
I read that it now patrols from tailout of blackhole and down river.
Basically it has both shore lines now.
From what I've heard this was something that the land owners along the shore asked DSR to patrol this additional area.
I have 3 points on this.
#1 I was unaware that these particular land owners in this stretch had control of the properties from the steet all the way to the middle of island.
#2 this could be the beginning to the end... as far as the salmon river fishery as we know it.
I've fished the Salmon for almost 30 years and have seen the good, bad and ugly.... regardless of how much people dislike the old days of snagging, the fact remains that those were the hay days of salmon fishing. There were many more fish back then and fisherman... trickle down effect is $$$$ for the economy. My point being that as is there are less and less people fishing the river and with gas prices as they,, are less $$$ will be coming in. (eg. C&M Diner closed, the diner across from Selkirk Shores closed down, and more mom and pop tackels shops have gone the way of the albatrose)
#3 As far as I know the fish that swim in Salmon river were paid for by the state..... IF.. Big IF.. the river was all pay to fish, why would the state pay to stock it anymore?

I fly fish for steel and salmon and don't by any means condone the antics of some fisherman, I don't pay to fish the river either. I keep maybe 1 -2 fish per year for neighbors that ask me for a fish or 2.
But, I do on occasion fish this section of river and have begun taking my 11 yr old with me to teach him where dad used to fish... or I should say where his dad used to be able to fish.
I know that this post may ruffle some feathers, especially to those guys that enjoy giving there hard earned to DSR.
But I am unfortunetly not wealthy and I only fish for fun, not for pay and not for food.
The day DSR started charging 20 and up to fish , was the day that it stopped being fun for me and costing more money then its worth.

This is my 2 cents and actually more of a post to get clarification if this DSR expansion is true.

ORIGINAL: salmotrutta
Salmo,it's the LITTLE Black that is closed downstream from the Black Hole which is the large hole at the sewer plant.
So what's all this talk about? I thought we had a report that stated the Black was open for everyone again?

ORIGINAL: hot tuna

This thread sucks, it's not a debate but a bash as it always is.
Jealousy


I just want to know when all those righteous folks are going to let me hunt & fish on their property as i please, hell I bought my License and paid for those **** wildlife........... it's a shame and getting old.

Put it down and move on....... MY last word......

ORIGINAL: metalslayer

You really have no clue[sm=****.gif]