Mon River

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2008/03/14 13:00:59 (permalink)

Mon River

Headin out tommorow.....I think.......McKeesport pool.....anyone see the 10th ward launch recently? is there much debris stacked up there?
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    bridgeman
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/14 19:58:43 (permalink)
    Mon looked pretty nasty today just south of you in Speers, might want to head for a lake.
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/14 20:08:11 (permalink)
    Nasty in flow, color or debris..........or all three?
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/14 20:23:47 (permalink)
    Pretty much just the color, not much debris.  I could notice the flow from the bridge deck if that any indication.  I've been eager to get out but consider it a waste of time when the river looks as it did today, I like to fish for the sauger and walleyes this time of the year but I'll tough it out for a few more weeks, springs around the corner hopefully.
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/14 23:39:01 (permalink)
    Waste of your time don't go, Mon is brown and just crappy lookin in general, been staring at it like this for the past 3 weeks.
     
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/15 06:33:36 (permalink)
    Thanks guys.........wheels are in motion........worst case well get the 1st skunking outta the way.......think i read that somewhere else.....
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/16 10:09:14 (permalink)
    Well you guys were right about the color but.......

    Pretty decent day all in all

    1st one caught by my buddy "Mike G." (not from Erie) at 8:45am.



    This Wiper measured 25" forgot to take a girth and left scale at home.  Ive only caught 1 before and it was maybe around 16" or so....What a differeence those extra inches make!!!!
    This fish was incredibly STOUT !!!! I was truly amazed just to be in its presence. 



    Caught on a 1/16oz jig with med fathead cast and slow retrieve 4-6ft deep.  This was our only bite in that location.

    Then proceeded to our next spot where several "nice average" whites were caught.....




     
    Water temps were around 45-49 deg.  Visibility was around 12" or so with very little debris in the McKeesport Pool.  The Yough was much less of an ugly color but we did not have time to fish it. 
     
    Totals were 1-Wiper, 12 White Bass (decent sizes) and 1-19" Walleye.
     
     
    post edited by Banana Boat - 2008/03/16 10:13:47
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/16 11:49:07 (permalink)
    At least you caught some fish.
     
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/16 17:39:37 (permalink)
    Congratulations.....sounds like a good day to me!

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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/21 10:35:43 (permalink)
    Hey everyone.....been looking at other pics of wipers and what not......is the fish pictured in this post a hybrid? or just a huge white bass?  This fish definatley had the double tooth patch?
     
    Also....is the toothpatch visible on smaller and younger hybrids?  maybe not as developed?
     
    post edited by Banana Boat - 2008/03/21 10:37:10
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/21 11:15:26 (permalink)
    Banana,
     
    Looks like you guys had a pretty good day, per conditions at least.  I didn't even check this post until now, thinking you were going to get the old skunko...  Congrats on proving me wrong!
     
    I always have a hard time with the little guys.  Per the lines, it looks like that smaller one is a hybrid.  Myself, if they are not over 15" or larger, with a dark back and rip the drag, I call them white bass...  That 25"er is definitely a wiper though.  The largest white bass that I have ever caught was in the 18" range, and was a lot more round than streemline like this guy is, also less wide.  I know it was a white, since it came from Lock 3 too. 
     
    The small guys all seem to be streemlined, and some have broken stripes and others don't.  I'm pretty sure the small wipers hang with their sized whites.  I have had days that I destroyed whites, and some definitely had a different look to them, but same size.
     
    I think I might have to get my boat out for a test run ASAP!!!
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/21 11:26:21 (permalink)
    Thanks pork....
     
    As far as the mon right now....flow is 3 times what we had last saturday.....plus with the snow.....no river for me this weekend....maybe a DHALO area though....
     
    Have a good holiday weekend....
     
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/21 11:54:57 (permalink)
    Yeah, ASAP for me is next weekend.  Too much holiday running around, and no extra days off.  Hoping they'll be down a little for next week.  If not, maybe try giving Arthur a go.  I'd really like to make sure everything is running before I make the extra trip though.  Have a great holiday too.
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/22 02:23:47 (permalink)
    does anyone know if the white bass still run up Pigeon Creek in Mon City, used to catch alot of them there at the mouth  in spring like 20 years ago?
    post edited by venomous grin - 2008/03/22 02:25:17

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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/28 16:04:38 (permalink)
    I took a drive by the river earlier today (South Side launch).  The water is at a pretty nice level and not too stained (for the Mon...).  It was choppy, so not sure how much debris was floating around.  I don't think it was bad though.  Not sure what the Allegheny or Ohio are looking like.
     
    I'm torn, on whether to fish the rivers or Arthur tomorrow....  Might have to flip a coin? 
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/28 16:44:55 (permalink)
    I went for a walk on the river trail Wednesday and did not see a lot of debri.
    Water was darker than average with whitecaps and appeared to be flowing backwords.

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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/28 18:08:19 (permalink)
    The flow is starting to rise from the storms in West VA yesterday and the local rain as well....Its up almost 50% today or so.........and I think its gonna peak quickly thru tommorow?
     
    So will someone please concur with this so i can go pikin tommorow instead...
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/28 19:25:12 (permalink)
    I believe is the lines are broken it's a hybrid.

    On a true white bass, the lines are continuous.

    I fish that spot all summer long. I'll be there as soon as all the docks get put in.
    Can't wait.
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/28 20:26:22 (permalink)
    Yea, i always thought that if the lines were broken, it was a hybrid, that that's one of the most distingwishable ways to tell em apart. Anyways, "frcken BEAUTIFUL FISH, NICE JOB!!!
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/28 21:02:06 (permalink)
    Broken lines are a way to help tell the difference between a full strain striper and a hybrid, but I don't believe hybrids always have broken lines.  It is not a way to tell the difference between a white bass and a hybrid though, Generally white bass only have 1 or 2 dark lines and the rest of them are broken and faint colored.
     
    The tooth patch in the middle of the tongue is the best way to tell the difference between whites and hybrids. On whites it basically looks like a rounded blister right in the center of the tongue that feels like sand paper(teeth), on hybrids that tooth patch(blister looking thing) is split in two generally with a gap between that seems to get wider the bigger the fish get.
     
     
    Just looking at the pictures, it's pretty tough to tell, but they almost all look like hybrids. The large one I'd say definitely is.   I wouldn't bet either way on what the smaller ones are without seeing the too patch though.Could be either one.
     
    I have seen some giant white bass caught in the Beaver river, some I sort of wish I'd have put on a scale.
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/29 23:44:40 (permalink)
    I should have went to Arthur...  The rivers sucked today.  Too much flow.  Fished Alcosan for a while then found some current breaks.  Nothing at all! 
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/30 09:24:02 (permalink)
    Well as we were getting skunked at yellow creek yesterday we were sayin "shoulda gone to the river"....it was said 20times at least.......alot of anglers out but didnt see any fish caught.....kinda cold....water temp 41 deg....river temps definatley higher......eh?
     
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    RE: Mon River 2008/03/30 16:04:26 (permalink)
    The Mon was 47-48 degrees today.
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