More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal

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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 19:00:05 (permalink)
I like the "dan" again.   Ha ha.  Nice touch Eugene.
 
But like I said...
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 19:03:53 (permalink)
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 can we call it even and get things back on track now?



 
Sure. Will there be a hearing or will it slowly disappear? 

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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 19:06:08 (permalink)
Sorry< I posted while you were posting and changed my last post via edit.  I just saw your last two prior to edit... Since you are willing, I guess the offer within your quote still stands.
 
 


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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 19:12:30 (permalink)
While I would like to see a hearing, I think with the payment having supposedly been voided and pgc saying they would comply completely with all demands immediately...  I think the odds of a hearing are also void.
 
Unless someone breaks the code of silence and evidence of further inappropriate actions arise now that the contract has supposedly been terminated and the promise of secrecy is no longer in place, I think its about over.
 
I have concerns over Roe maybe receiving payment once Corbett is gone, on the downlow.   The parties involved may keep the vow of silence longer to see how things play out.  Just speculating.
 
I think it VERY likely that they will go with corbetts advice on Capoiullez, and not give him the position, keeping Hough in place, counting on a Corbett defeat, then putting Bill in place.
 
I don't think that is going to look too good on the agency after all this, but I would bet a fair sum on that particular piece of speculation.  I think that is exactly why they named the interim ed in the first place instead of putting a permanent one in there when they had plenty of time to have done so.


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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 19:23:04 (permalink)
I was interesting to see that part of the demands by the Governor and house leadership was the Capi was not selected as ED. OK. So the BOC names interim ED Hough as ED. Hough still says he is going to retire soon. Are we to assume that the BOC does not like any of the other candidates for ED that they have left to choose from?

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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 19:37:11 (permalink)
I donno, imo, I think they had their heart set on Capi, from day one or so it appears.   I think they know his positions on some issues and don't want to take their chances on those issues with other candidates...that's my somewhat educated GUESS anyway.
 
Ive heard that some seem to think that Capi would be a strong proponent of keeping the gas industry in check on issues such as no drilling on gamelands or at least none that they have control of, and if true, that would explain some of Corbetts opposition to said candidate...    All speculation.   But certainly within the realm of possibility with the puzzle pieces fitting together well.
 
I am sure they would know, after all this time hes been at the agency, his views on deer management.   And that would be something they might not want to leave to chance.
 
I would like to strongly emphasize, I am not trying to pass any of this off as factual and nondebatable.   Just throwing a few things out there, based on bits and pieces.
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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 22:21:26 (permalink)
Anyone know anything about THIS?  http://m.lancasteronline.com/news/local/corbett-calls-on-pa-game-commission-board-members-to-resign/article_9c5d2cc4-aee0-11e3-ad27-0017a43b2370.html?mode=jqm
 
According to the article pgc received the letter from the governor that included FOUR demands!   We know of 2....don't put Bill C in as exec director and retract payment for Roe...  That leaves 2 more?   What are they???


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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 23:25:45 (permalink)
here is a link to get to the letter with the " 4 demands"
 
just click on the link where is says   JOINT LETTER   to see the actual letter...
 
[link=http://www.senatorscarnati.com/statement-on-letter-sent-to-the-pa-game-commission/]http://www.senatorscarnat...he-pa-game-commission/]http://www.senatorscarnat...he-pa-game-commission/[/link]
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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/20 23:44:44 (permalink)
Thanks doc.
 
Still looks like basically the same 2 issues and  just broken down a bit further into 4 demands.
 
Don't pay Roe.
Don't put capi in there since hes under investigation.
Take actions to prevent a similar incident with capi or other employees in the future basically.
And comply with the sec investigation of Capi.
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/25 18:10:46 (permalink)
Interesting that VP Putnam is now laying waste to Roe via the Outdoor News's latest issue. I thought they all signed a agreement to be quiet and move on? 
 
Wonder if since Roe lost his Hush money if he will respond to the accusations by spilling the goods on wrong doings by members of the BOC? Or will he respect the nature of the agreement and sit idle? 
 
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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/25 18:46:12 (permalink)
Apparently it looks to me like Roe has NOTHING on the board as some have speculated, or Putnam would have his lips sealed with glue, not wanting to antagonize a response from Roe.
 
If the deal is null and void now that the payment is, then nothing is holding him back.
 
I would GUESS that since the payment were part of the contract that now payment has been voided, so is the contract and there is no legally binding contract unless it were redone excluding the payment.  Course Im not lawyer so...
 
Im thinking it might very well have just normal operating procedure to have the "confidentiality" clause.   But there was nothing normal about the payment.     We'll see I guess... Maybe. lol  
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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/26 10:12:21 (permalink)
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Apparently it looks to me like Roe has NOTHING on the board as some have speculated, or Putnam would have his lips sealed with glue, not wanting to antagonize a response from Roe. If the deal is null and void now that the payment is, then nothing is holding him back. 


Could be. One of two things is going on.

Roe doesn't have the goods so he will not respond.
Roe has decided to be the better man and move on without dragging the agency down further.
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Re: More on Pa game commission / Carl Roe $220,000 Scandal 2014/03/26 19:41:55 (permalink)
As Mulhollem stated in his column, "We don't know who the good guys are anymore".
 
For me, I take it as "I don't know which one is lying the least anymore."
 
The nuclear option might be best road to recovery.  Wipe out the whole BOC and underlings not necessary for day to day operations.  Freeze all rule changes for a year to allow enough time to appoint all new leadership that cares about the #1 customer.  Not gonna happen, but good lord, what a mess.
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