Newer Lake Boat???

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2012/03/21 20:50:13 (permalink)

Newer Lake Boat???

Thinking about buying a bigger (25' +/-)boat for the lake. Any sugestions (other than "don't") as to what to look for? Thinking about a Wellcraft, Sportcraft, ProLine or something similar. Thanks for any info!

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    Like2Fish
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/21 21:45:04 (permalink)
    You will not be sorry with any of those choices. I have a 20' Wellcraft (older model). I keep it docked at Lampe so trailering is not an issue. I would keep a closed bow in mind, it keeps water out of the boat when it gets a little rough. A V8 is a good choice if possible. Gas prices always hurt but the power is nice to have. Think about trim tabs (help you get on plane a little quicker). If you are going to trailer, be certain all axles have brakes, the fish police and State police have been getting writing cramps with tickets for that very issue. Trailers over 3000# will also need inspected every year. Best of luck. PM me if you need anything more specific.

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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/21 22:59:19 (permalink)
    I have a question with the inspection u mentioned. Is it trailers weighing more than 3000# or being rated for 3000#? My trailer is 840# but rated for 3000#. And I wanted to know if I needed inspection it also has surge brakes.
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/22 04:22:38 (permalink)
    Look at a Carolina classic. My buddy has one and it's probably the best 25' boat I've ever fished on.
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/22 09:26:56 (permalink)
    What's your budget for this new boat? If you're willing to spend $30,000 you have a lot more options than if you want to spend $15,000 or $10,000.


    ORIGINAL: bar2

    I have a question with the inspection u mentioned. Is it trailers weighing more than 3000# or being rated for 3000#? My trailer is 840# but rated for 3000#. And I wanted to know if I needed inspection it also has surge brakes.


    As a general rule of thumb, if it has brakes it needs inspected. Not always true, but if you're trailer is licensed for 3,000# then it needs inspected.
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/22 10:16:06 (permalink)
    I have a Starcraft 22' Offshore hard top that will be up for sale here real soon. Trim tabs, 4 electric downriggers. Humminbird GPS fish finder, lots more stuff.
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/22 11:19:10 (permalink)
    In reply to the brakes, the rating is the determing factor. Yes it needs inspected.

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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/22 11:26:36 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mikethehelopilot

    I have a Starcraft 22' Offshore hard top that will be up for sale here real soon. Trim tabs, 4 electric downriggers. Humminbird GPS fish finder, lots more stuff.

    what year?
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/22 12:56:47 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bar2

    I have a question with the inspection u mentioned. Is it trailers weighing more than 3000# or being rated for 3000#? My trailer is 840# but rated for 3000#. And I wanted to know if I needed inspection it also has surge brakes.


    From the way i read the law, it says the trailer needs to be inspected if it is registered for over 3000 GVW. I have a boat/ trailer combo that has surge brake and two axels (the trailer was put with the boat after the boat was traded in, it had an original trailer with a single axle). It is registered for up to 3000lbs (that is how the dealer wrote up the paper work) So no inspection needed.

    Boat trailers are tricky because generally the trailer only has the boat on it. Unlike a flat bed trailer that could see a bed full of bricks one day and a motorcyle the next day.

    So just because it has surge brakes does not mean you need inspectioned, if it is registered over 3000lbs that is what deteremine the issue of inspection.
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/22 15:10:49 (permalink)
    Even though the law reads "An external inspection of a trailer over 3,000 pounds registered gross weight", you may find yourself in an argument with the police if the vin tag on the trailer says 6,000# and it's registered for less than 3,000#. I used to register my one ton trucks as 3/4 ton, can't get away with it these days. Either way, inspection is around $20 and is money well spent for the peace of mind...
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/27 15:55:34 (permalink)
    I would definitely opt for the inspection. Like PP said, it's worth the money (small amount at that) you spend to have peace of mind (and to be legal).
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/27 21:01:02 (permalink)
    If you buy a boat that has wood in the hull (stringers, and / or transom), be sure to have it checked out by a surveyor.
     
    I went from an '86 18 foot Starcraft Islander, to a '94 Proline 220 Cuddy Fish, to an '03 Grady White 226 (sold it in '09). All three were good to great boats IMO. The Grady had a 20 degree deadrise and 8 ft beam. It was by far the best riding of the three boats. I would not recommend anything with less than 20 degree deadrise. The '94 Proline had an 18 degree deadrise and 8 ft beam. The Proline would pound (come down harshly off a wave), where the Grady would land softly. The one thing to watch on a Proline is that they floor right over the fuel tank. So if you ever have to remove the fuel tank, you'll be cutting a big hole in the floor. But it's not often you have to remove a tank and the floor can be fixed. From what I understand, Proline has greatly improved as far as ride goes. I would certainly consider owning another one. I did own an '02 20 foot Hydra Sports walkaround briefly, in between the Proline and the Grady. Almost forgot about that one. It was the "lightning" series of Hydra Sports. I would NOT recommend one of those and a confidentiality agreement prohibits me from saying anymore about that boat. Hydra Sports makes two lines however. The lightning series being the low end line. The "Vector" series is the other line and supposedly real nice. 
     
    If you've never had an I/O, get ready to learn about what maintenance they require. Don't get me wrong, I/Os are great, but if you've never owned one, you need to know that there are items like "bellows", "U-joints", "Gimble bearings", "Couplers", manifolds, risers, etc. But I've seen I/Os last a long, long time when used in freshwater. And mechanincs are readily available and parts can be obtained at a reasonble price.
     
    '95 and new Prolines are woodfree.
     
    Proline is in court and nearly filed chapter 11 (but from what I hear they are not going to now). Not sure if Wellcraft is still around. I know the parent company (Genmar) was having issues.
     
    Another brand to put on your list is Seaswirl.
     
    Trim tabs can be great to have when things get rough.
     
    I just saw a nice Grady 228 for sale on Craig's list Pittsburgh today. It's got a hardtop, aluminum tandem trailer. From the pics, it looks beautiful. It's the identical boat to the Grady I owned, except mine had the "notched" transom, where as the one on Craig's list has the outboard on a bracket. Definately would want to get it surveyed though. Pre-98 Grady's used regular wood in their hulls ('98 and newer had lifetime, no rot Marine XL).
     
    Been hearing alot of reports about gel coat cracks and crazing on Polars.
     
    There's probably a bunch of other brands out there that are worth looking at as well.
     
    I got boats on the brain 24 x 7. I should probably seek help.
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    jon_e_si
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/28 23:21:27 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the replies. Any names or suggestions for a suveyor in the Erie area?

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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/29 20:07:43 (permalink)
    The only surveyor I know is in the Pittsburgh Area. Ed Gibson.
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    RE: Newer Lake Boat??? 2012/03/29 21:56:02 (permalink)
    http://www.porterieboatworks.com/services/accredited_marine_surveyor/

    Can't vouch for them but I saw this while browsing awhile back.
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