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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 08:47:55
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Nice Try-----Problem is Ohio's Non-Resident license sales have more than doubled since 2000/2001 and I was hunting Sundays over there in the 1980's so there is no coorlation between Sunday hunting and their increase.
Not so sure. Going across the border to be able to hunt a whole weekend may be driving the recent increase. If it is the draw of good deer numbers and trophy bucks, the allure of two days to hunt on a weekend would surely add to the draw. Who knows. Really speculation.
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 09:02:46
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NO SUNDAY HUNTING....... we still agrere on that one  I was simply trying to correst the idea that Ohio deer hunting is so great.. it isn't.. it's personal opinions again... I just posted the facts about the number of deer hunters and how it has declined .. remember you have to buy a permit to kill a deer .. your regular hunting licenses does NOT allow you to kill a deer.. .. so the number of permits is the true number of deer hunters .. In Ohio you can get a true number of deer hunters.... BTW.. one last point about how great the deer hunting in Ohio is TRULY .... 2009 harvest == 361,260 2010 harvest == 329,260 ----------------------- fewer deer ==== 32,000 fewer deer killed in one year !!!!! When was the last time Pa had a kill of 22,000 less deer in one year ..... ??? Pa's harvest actually increased a little last year .... THANKS to crappie for showing me the error in the orginal post ....
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 09:58:57
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p.s. One more thing, 2A needs to up the doe tag allocations as well. Kill some of those deer that noone can seem to find. I guess we have ANOTHER Nipsey Russel eh iron? lmao.
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 10:02:13
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It must have been the concussions then because Ohio was not the topic of conversation. Doesnt matter which state you speak of. They dont have the high level disapproval and of dissent that we do right here in good 'ol Pa. But, it sounded pretty much like nonresident sales...across borders etc. were mentioned a time or two. And if Ohio hadnt been mentioned(and its border adjoining our own)....well guess what....It HAS BEEN now!  ...And you should have noted i asked you in question form.....So lay off the soy sauce! 
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 13:57:06
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These are the figures for the number of deer permits issued in Ohio put out by ODNR... i.e. the number of deer hunters....
2006 === 373,399
2010 === 339,617 Just as with RSB you really need to think things through before you go throwing numbers around Doc. You just proved that Ohio's deer hunting is much better than ours. Although I would rather compare buck harvests these are your numbers so I will use them. OHIO----- 2010 deer hunters per Doc 339,617 total kill per Doc 329,260 Penna---- 2010 deer hunters approx 760,000 total kill per PGC 316,240 Of course we don't hunt on Sunday Ohio has a higher population density than we do Ohio is a smaller state than we are And still they have a much higher success rate than we do, are increasing Non-Resident hunters and Increasing junior hunters while we are headed the opposite direction in all catagories. BTW---you asked when the last time we dropped 22,000 deer kill in one year. Your memory is really slipping Check out 2008 and 2009 At least your correct on the Sunday hunting issue.
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 13:59:56
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Once our deer herd started to decline after the slaughter so did the non resident sales. It's not rocket science.No tags for non residents? More antlerless tags available than before the decline. As far as Ohio residents hunting here being happy. I guess they wouldn't be here in the first place if they were unhappy. Don't ya think RSB ?
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 14:12:47
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ORIGINAL: wayne c
It must have been the concussions then because Ohio was not the topic of conversation.
Doesnt matter which state you speak of. They dont have the high level disapproval and of dissent that we do right here in good 'ol Pa.
But, it sounded pretty much like nonresident sales...across borders etc. were mentioned a time or two. And if Ohio hadnt been mentioned(and its border adjoining our own)....well guess what....It HAS BEEN now! ...And you should have noted i asked you in question form.....So lay off the soy sauce!
Dont know what border you are talking about, but everyone i know that hunts Pa & Ohio likes ohio much better. In fact ive never heard anyone make even the slightest comment that Pa was as good or better than ohio. Question form, eh? You even admitted not knowing the topic of conversation but as you always do, you argued.... Ironhed p.s. Not a big fan of soy sauce.
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 14:14:33
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2. Getting rid of rifles would make it harder to kill a deer thereby increasing their numbers so we agree a larger deer herd would also increase Non-Resident hunter numbers. +1 On top of making it a little more challenging. Ironhed
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 14:17:35
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There are about 70% of PA deer hunters that like hunting with a rifle.
I think we should get rid of them.
Who would want the vast majority of hunters to be happy. What's the difference? Y'all say "they" are not happy anyway. They'd get used to it. Ironhed p.s. And if the 70% REALLY cared and were sooooo unhappy, things would have never changed.
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 14:46:46
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ORIGINAL: Ironhed
There are about 70% of PA deer hunters that like hunting with a rifle.
I think we should get rid of them.
Who would want the vast majority of hunters to be happy.
What's the difference? Y'all say "they" are not happy anyway.
They'd get used to it.
Ironhed
p.s. And if the 70% REALLY cared and were sooooo unhappy, things would have never changed.
Try to take away their use of rifles and you would see how unhappy the get. Let's try this, let's replace a majority fishing method, like, I dont know, trolling with spinning or casting gear, with a minority method like trolling with a cane pole or maybe even a fly rod, and see if all the walleye chasers go crazy. There would be a lot moree walleye then, oyu know because it would be more challenging. Maybe you would get use to it. That's what you are asking when you tell the vast majority that they should no longer use their methods, but rather a minority method. And things have changed -- 200,000 of them took their rifles and money and quit.
post edited by DarDys - 2011/04/28 15:27:35
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 14:50:24
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There ya go. Half the people quit hunting, and the other half don't see any deer to shoot at. So what difference does it make, how many days, or permits there are? Or what weapons they don't fire?
Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 15:40:58
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"Question form, eh? You even admitted not knowing the topic of conversation but as you always do, you argued...." I didnt argue. You did with the drinking and concussion nonsense from other thread that didnt have anything to do with current discussion. In this thread I simply asked a question, and then gave an opinion that was right in line with the line of postings at the time. Just because it was counter to yours doesnt make mine any more or less "arguing" than yours was. I also knew the "topic" was not a narrow micro-specific deal. It usually never is, and this was no exception. My post was right in line with the conversation. ....Sorry bout disproving your point though for what its worth.
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 15:46:23
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There ya go. Half the people quit hunting, and the other half don't see any deer to shoot at. There is a simple solution to all that. Fire half the people at the game commission and we'd have half the problems with 'em.
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 16:00:23
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Try to take away their use of rifles and you would see how unhappy the get.
Let's try this, let's replace a majority fishing method, like, I dont know, trolling with spinning or casting gear, with a minority method like trolling with a cane pole or maybe even a fly rod, and see if all the walleye chasers go crazy. There would be a lot moree walleye then, oyu know because it would be more challenging.
Maybe you would get use to it.
That's what you are asking when you tell the vast majority that they should no longer use their methods, but rather a minority method.
And things have changed -- 200,000 of them took their rifles and money and quit. You're **** right I'd get used to it. Because that's what I love to do and I care. If I'm only allowed to troll with a flyrod(lol), I'll make it work. Like I said before, those 200,000 weren't deer hunters anyway. Ironhed
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 16:03:08
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Sorry bout disproving your point though for what its worth. The only thing you proved is that you have an incredible appetite for debate. "Yeah, whatever." lol Ironhed
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 16:04:53
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I'll bring the cane pole for you to use during the Pajama Cruise 2011.
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 16:07:54
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LOL OK. We'll catch a fish on it.(at least try like hell) Ironhed p.s. Be sure to have the camera. This will be fun!
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 17:00:05
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NO SUNDAY HUNTING....... we still agrere on that one
I was simply trying to correst the idea that Ohio deer hunting is so great.. it isn't.. it's personal opinions again...
I just posted the facts about the number of deer hunters and how it has declined .. remember you have to buy a permit to kill a deer .. your regular hunting licenses does NOT allow you to kill a deer.. .. so the number of permits is the true number of deer hunters .. In Ohio you can get a true number of deer hunters....
BTW.. one last point about how great the deer hunting in Ohio is TRULY ....
2009 harvest == 361,260
2010 harvest == 329,260
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fewer deer ==== 22,000 fewer deer killed in one year !!!!!
When was the last time Pa had a kill of 22,000 less deer in one year ..... ???
Pa's harvest actually increased a little last year ....
u off by 10,000 uno/e;
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 17:42:38
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" If I'm only allowed to troll with a flyrod(lol), I'll make it work."
I've seen it done, on my boat.
And successfully I might add.
Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 18:47:04
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Thanks crappie... once again my error.. I should have typed 32,000 less deer harvested and S-10 was right 2008 and 2009 was more than my error of writing 22,000.... but it was not 33,000 less
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RE: Sunday Hunting
2011/04/28 18:59:39
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Thanks crappie...
once again my error.. I should have typed 32,000 less deer harvested and S-10 was right 2008 and 2009 was more than my error of writing 22,000.... but it was not 33,000 less
_____________________________ Yep, You would have to go clear back to 2006-2007 to find that big a difference.
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