Most of those grants require a dollar for dollar match which means the PGC is putting up a dollar of the hunters license money for each dollar of grant money they get and the total of the grant money has to be used for Non-Game wildlife.
The example would be if you(the hunter) had a thousand dollars of your money to spend on a gun and your wife(the bird lover) went to the mall with you to purchase the gun. Right across the hall from the gun store was a jewelry store with thousand dollar diamond earrings on sale where you got a thousand dollar necklace with each pair of earrings purchased. The two of you walked out of the mall, her with a pair of earrings and a necklace and you minus a thousand dollars. A good deal for her(the bird lover) not so good for you(the hunter).
At the same time they hired 6 Diversity Biologists they also hired 4 Wind Energy Biologists to keep track of how many bats and hawks were being killed,a grant writer to go after these matching fund grants, a Mammalogist, and a Otnithologist. Didn't have any money to explore why we are losing so many hunters, to do The Greatest Antler Restriction Study in the world, to upgrade the study on the effects of predators on our deer numbers, or several other Game studies. The priorties have changed and it shows up in their budget.

Certain grants do require matching funds, however the state wildlife grant does not.

I'am going to challenge you on that statement.My contention is the State Wildlife Grant is one that does require matching funds and the grant specifies exactly what the monies have to be used for and it's not for game species.

Some states use the money exclusively for a competitive grant process and may only fund a few projects a year.  Personally I think the money is better used funding these positions giving landowners the know how to manage properties for a variety of wildlife species. 

I cannot verify how much of the 1.8 million dollar SWG comes from partners/NGO grants, but it is probably a fair amount of money especially considering one of the positions funded is a grant administrator.  The fact is, roughly 4% of the annual budget was used for non game species, with a large proportion coming from federal and non government grants.  I think we can both agree that is a pretty small percentage.  Also, as you mentioned, the diversity biologist were created to improve habitat for non game species, however they will also provide information for managing any species including game species.   

I'm still a Pa sportsman, buy a Pa license, pay Pa taxes,It's my money that funds the salaries of the PGC and my money that goes into the state funded grants. So why not SonofZ3 ??????????????

ORIGINAL: SonofZ3

ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures

Why did the PGC spend millions on a new regional office when the old building was adequate? Why wasn't the money put into wildlife habitat like the monies were interned to to be used from the Grower Greener Fund ? Lack of food plots due to not having funds to provide them is ridiculous !!

I think every hunter should have an interest in what is going on with the PGC and public land, but you've stated yourself that you own your land, you hunt on it, and practice your own QDM. Why the rabid interest in what happens on other people's land, or on public lands?

That is part of why many non-hunters have historically been supportive of hunting even though they don’t hunt.

What are hunters becoming? What are their attitudes doing to the future of hunting in this state?

That's a crock of slop and a very feeble attempt at deflecting the blame for the political shift on part of the PGC and we all know it.
To start with, historically the PGC was spending one tenth of the money on non-game species as now and as you say, the non-hunters were very supportive of hunting then as now.
The complaint against the PGC is not that they are spending money on non-game species and that was stated but you chose to ignore it.
The complaint is that the PGC is holding research for game and hunter friendly issues hostage until they can squeeze more license money from hunters. At the same time they have no trouble funding research on non-game species, using money from the game fund to leverage more money for non-game projects and have the money to hire 14 new people dedicated to non-game issues.
The 4% is just the tip of the spending iceberg that is directed on non-game issues as can be seen in the budget breakdowns comparing year to year.
There is no money to increase ringneck stocking but there is money to produce a book on breeding birds.
There is no money to do the Greatest Antler Restriction Study in the world but there is money to hire four people to study windmills and their effect on non-game bird mortality.
There is no money to study why we are losing hunters at such a fast rate compared to other states but there is money to study bats.
There is no money to research who owns the mineral rights on the state game lands but there is money to map out the habitats of threatened birds or animals.
Why deny it, just change the name to Pennsylvania Audubon Commission and be done with it.
Just DON'T keep blaming the hunters for not being happy when they know they are being robbed.
The PGC currently has one of the largest budgets in history and one of the largest budget surpluses in history but can't find the money for important game related or hunter related issues. At the same time they have no trouble using hunters money to fund non-game issues. That's called robbery.

+ You can have a Game Officer in a county (area) that is a real big --- and doesn't  treat people with respect. I,m not talking about violators I,m talking about everyone he encounters. The attitudes and judgments of that Game Officer can affect the hunters in a very negative way. And those resentments are passed on to siblings and other mentored hunters and circles those people run in. So the next time you stand there and try to discredit someone or belittle them, remember the respect you show to others (if you have any respect for others) is what you should expect in return RSB

I posted about ROBO DOE in another board and he had a comment about it being made up story , whats his claim to fame?

Perhaps the PGC should of called the new license ID "Hunter ID" instead of "CUSTOMER ID". The PGC has got what they brought on themselves !

ORIGINAL: SonofZ3

RSB- It was brought to my attention on another board that more and more often hunters are referring to themselves as "customers" of the PGC, and wanting to know what they get for the money. I have my gripes, but the change from being a "hunter" to a "customer" is a disturbing one. The change in title seems to acompany a change in expectations. "Customers" want to know what someone will give them for their money. Sad.

That's a crock of slop and a very feeble attempt at deflecting the blame for the political shift on part of the PGC and we all know it.
To start with, historically the PGC was spending one tenth of the money on non-game species as now and as you say, the non-hunters were very supportive of hunting then as now.
The complaint against the PGC is not that they are spending money on non-game species and that was stated but you chose to ignore it.
The complaint is that the PGC is holding research for game and hunter friendly issues hostage until they can squeeze more license money from hunters. At the same time they have no trouble funding research on non-game species, using money from the game fund to leverage more money for non-game projects and have the money to hire 14 new people dedicated to non-game issues.
The 4% is just the tip of the spending iceberg that is directed on non-game issues as can be seen in the budget breakdowns comparing year to year.
There is no money to increase ringneck stocking but there is money to produce a book on breeding birds.
There is no money to do the Greatest Antler Restriction Study in the world but there is money to hire four people to study windmills and their effect on non-game bird mortality.
There is no money to study why we are losing hunters at such a fast rate compared to other states but there is money to study bats.
There is no money to research who owns the mineral rights on the state game lands but there is money to map out the habitats of threatened birds or animals.
Why deny it, just change the name to Pennsylvania Audubon Commission and be done with it.
Just DON'T keep blaming the hunters for not being happy when they know they are being robbed.
The PGC currently has one of the largest budgets in history and one of the largest budget surpluses in history but can't find the money for important game related or hunter related issues. At the same time they have no trouble using hunters money to fund non-game issues. That's called robbery.

Excellent post.

Once again in the eyes of a WCO the PGC can do no wrong. Is being brainwashed part of your training ????

ORIGINAL: RSB

ORIGINAL: rmcmillen09

+ You can have a Game Officer in a county (area) that is a real big --- and doesn't  treat people with respect. I,m not talking about violators I,m talking about everyone he encounters. The attitudes and judgments of that Game Officer can affect the hunters in a very negative way. And those resentments are passed on to siblings and other mentored hunters and circles those people run in. So the next time you stand there and try to discredit someone or belittle them, remember the respect you show to others (if you have any respect for others) is what you should expect in return RSB

Oh so you figure it is ok for hunters to discredit the WCOs and Game Commission and the WCOs should just sit back and take it without telling the other side of the story?
 
I don’t think so. At least it is not going to happen like that in my world.
 
R.S. Bodenhorn   

ORIGINAL: ready2fish

The bandwagon has arrived.......

Where's Baby Jesus?

 

 
I wish Baby Jesus would have a sit down with Chicken Little.
 
Ironhed

"I wish Baby Jesus would have a sit down with Chicken Little.

Ironhed "

That way they can kneel together and pray for a few upper pgc staff members souls. lol

That would be frowned upon in some circles.


...but i would recommend guava melon or kiwi fruit.