ORIGINAL: psu_fish

ORIGINAL: wayne c

It doesnt make one bit of diff. if they are getting $$$ out of any one particular well.

They are getting $$$ from plenty of wells the totals thus far i believe were posted more than once, and it is soon to be a helluva lot more. Thats not even debatable. These things are fact.

But I believe the original line of conversation about the gas wells was wether or not it was pgc contracts doing the drilling Etc. and disrupting during deer season some were experiencing. That i cant answer.

on the sunday before the opener on SGL 45 the company that operates the wells, checked on the wells and when driving out, locked the main gate and come 5am monday alot of hunters were ****ed that the gate was locked and they couldnt get back the access lane....the local WCO came later on, but it really some screwed hunters at first light

 
When they used to check the wells where I hunt, they would leave the gate open while checking and then lock it behind them when they left.  Jus think how miffed the guys were that drove through the open gate (although they had no permission to do so) only to find it lock upon their attempted exit.

I saw 32 deer, while hunting, between 2B where I live and 2E where I hunted for a couple days. Harvested 2 doe and a buck. A great hunting season, with another month of antlerless after christmas opening up down here.

If the folks on here complaining about deer numbers put as much energy into preseason scouting as they do whining, they just might see more deer. I for one think this state has great deer hunting  [ notice I said hunting, not shooting ]. I deer hunt in 3 or 4 states each year, so I think Im a decent judge of hunting opportunities we have in PA.  I certainlly agree the deer numbers are less than years past, but what is wrong with having to get off your duff and actually hunt. Im no Jim Bridger physically [ probably more like John Candy] , but have no problem locating deer and hunting them, sometimes successfully, no matter how far the walk. Deer hunting in PA before HR presented about as much challenge as steelhead fishing in the tribs do today. Guess the point Im trying to make is, be thankful for what we have, there is more public huntng access in PA than any other state I hunt, The deer Ive shot in the areas I hunt are definitely the healthiest and fattest Ive seen in 34 years of living and hunting here and to end this , I certainly hope the PGC doesnt give in to the whining of those who want things to be they way they were in years past

If the folks on here complaining about deer numbers put as much energy into preseason scouting as they do whining, they just might see more deer. I for one think this state has great deer hunting [ notice I said hunting, not shooting ]. I deer hunt in 3 or 4 states each year, so I think Im a decent judge of hunting opportunities we have in PA. I certainlly agree the deer numbers are less than years past, but what is wrong with having to get off your duff and actually hunt. Im no Jim Bridger physically [ probably more like John Candy] , but have no problem locating deer and hunting them, sometimes successfully, no matter how far the walk. Deer hunting in PA before HR presented about as much challenge as steelhead fishing in the tribs do today. Guess the point Im trying to make is, be thankful for what we have, there is more public huntng access in PA than any other state I hunt, The deer Ive shot in the areas I hunt are definitely the healthiest and fattest Ive seen in 34 years of living and hunting here and to end this , I certainly hope the PGC doesnt give in to the whining of those who want things to be they way they were in years past

Um, ok. Thank you Gary Alt for your part in hosing the sportsmen of Pa, Thank you Rosenberry for taking over once Alt tucked tail and ran, and for keeping us bent over the barrel to this day, thank you to the handful of environmentalist extremists spoken of by John Eveland for dictating the management that is permitting modern day low deer numbers and 50 year low buck harvests to be "the norm" and at least allowing some deer to exist, Thank you Mr. Roe, Dubrock & other upper staff who have decided to push for a "pro contraception" approach to deer management and clearly being integral parts of the "backbone" of the radical and nonhunter friendly policies of today, and thank you for being so thoughtful to the feelings and needs of the states hunters and holding us all in such high regard. Thank you past and present boc for carrying out the will of the obtuse instead of taking the middle road, and listening to reason. Bless you all and have a Merry Christmas!

I certainly hope the PGC doesnt give in to the whining of those who want things to be they way they were in years past

You mean like the year 2000 when we harvested more than 200,000 bucks and put more in the record books than any year since.

ORIGINAL: SonofZ3

I saw 32 deer, while hunting, between 2B where I live and 2E where I hunted for a couple days. Harvested 2 doe and a buck. A great hunting season, with another month of antlerless after christmas opening up down here.

 
I have hunted what is now 2e for most of my hunting years (almost 40).  What you expereinced would have been an okay MORNING, not season, in the past in 2e.
 
"You don't know what you got til its gone."  I believe is appropriate.
 
I rifle hunted 6 times this season in three different locations -- twice each  -- for a total of 28 hours.  I saw 24 deer -- none of them antlered (there were three BB's that I know of -- unfortunately shot one in error).  11 of those 24 antlerless deer came on the first day, so 46% of the deer were not legal targets.
 
I consider one caught fish per hour (not pan fish or saltwater fish) an okay average, so I guess extrapolating that to deer hunting as it is today means that the herd levels at the spots I hunt are approaching okay hunting again.  

You would probably have seen the same deer more times as we did before AR/HR before we lost a quarter million deer hunters but seeing more different deer may be another story. Don't forget, before HR the same number of doe got bounced around for two weeks and were seen many times by many hunters before being shot. Now the first hunter they see may take them out.