fast sinking leader?

hey guys, i am trying to find a way to tie leaders that sink faster than normal. i tie up super basic leaders just taper it down. i was wondering how to tie up some leaders that sink at a faster rate than normal, any suggestions
 

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they are for making sink tips...

or buy a sink line

You can... Rub the entire leader in shorline muck. Or buy a tube of Xink. Gink floats. Xink sinks.

You think they would have come up with a better name. I sound like a freakin China men. But both products work great.

Also floro has a higher sink rate then mono. But It will cost to much in my opinion,, for what ever advantage comes out of it.

Hope this helps??
Don/

You can perfection loop a section of lead core trolling line at both ends and loop right to your fly line. Tye differnent lengths of lead core for different sink rates.

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You can perfection loop a section of lead core trolling line at both ends and loop right to your fly line. Tye differnent lengths of lead core for different sink rates.

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I've been using sink tips a lot more lately, and I find that I cast a sink tip with a short leader and unweighted fly much better than a heavily weighted streamer.

Rio sells 30 foot sections of sinking line, in either T8 or T14 (I think) through Cabellas for 24 bucks. Go half on it with someone and make yourself a 10 foot sink tip for big water, then a 2 foot and a 3 foot sink tip for smaller and lower water.
Then build some 4 foot (or even 3) leaders and go swing.

Some info/specs on sink tip material, versi, poly leaders.

Rio T series sink tip material. Tungsten coated, mono core.
T8, 8 grains per foot, sink rate 6-7 inches per second
T11, 11 grains per foot, sink rate 7-8 ips.
T14, 14 grains per foot, sink rate 8-9 ips.
T17, 17 grains per foot, sink rate 9-10 ips.
Usually sold in 30 ft coils, $24.95 per 30 ft. Generally unavailable locally, order it on line. Usually used with 2 handed rods, skagit lines, and short 4 to 5 ft mono leaders.

Rio versi or Airflo poly leaders, 5 to 14 foot, sink rates up to about 7 ips. 5 ft good for single hand rods, 10, 14 ft for 2 handed rods, scandinavian line systems. Around $10- $12 per leader. Used with short mono leaders, 4-5 ft.

This tip material can be found on line at flyfish@flyfishusa.com. Many other on line fly shops also carry this stuff.

Not really needed for PA. Erie steelhead except for maybe stripping streamers in the lake or harbors. Best way to go for swinging flies in bigger water such as Cattaraugus in NY or Grande in OH.

I mostly just want my tippet to sink. When fishing say wet ants, or emergers. I suppose if you want the entire leader to sink theres allway lead shot
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hey Spank you did miss a good day of fishing & the above post I had to hassel you a little hope you can make the next trip

well denny and dave. i hate to say it but im kinda glad i missed that days fishing lol.. i saved some money and ya the steeler game was amazing 37-36 win on the last play!!! ya i was there but for sure soon fellas.. get our swing on