kilbasi kid
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will it live?
Was talking to a guy last night that said he was able to keep 2 steelhead alive with a small air pump in a large container to let loose in his creek by his house.I think he is full of poop.I tend to guess if they did live for him to release they would just die anyways.It can't be safe for releasing fish from erie to creeks around here.Different bacterias and other things the fish could carry to infect the fish around here.I still don't think its possible.Any thoughts?
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ShutUpNFish
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 09:53:01
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I think it is definitely illegal as all hell. Besides, whats the whole point of it? Even is the fish do survive, they won't last through spring or summer.
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kilbasi kid
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 09:56:43
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My point exactly.He thinks with the bait fish and plenty of the other sources of food,and no pressure it would survive just fine.They have to reproduce.
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mikeg
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 10:07:04
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Illegal! And stupid! No point at all really! What does he think? In a couple years he'll get massive runs of steelhead? lol
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Mr.Slickfish
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 10:27:41
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Out of curiosity....Anyone know the actual law on releasing fish into another area? I live near a small trib in Erie. It runs right behind my house, but the fish can't make it up that far. I have had JOKING conversations with friends that we should release our catch into the hole behind our house. The fish could get back down...just not up......Thanx
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 11:34:14
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kilbasi kid
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 11:53:18
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Anyone know where I can purchase alligators?
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 12:13:06
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 12:14:43
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Hahaha I do. but you have to buy at least 5 at a time.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 12:38:21
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What's he going to do? Get drunk, and show them to his buddies. Feed em? Pet em?
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 12:45:34
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Under 58 Pa. Code §69.3 (relating to transportation of VHS-susceptible fish out of the Lake Erie watershed), which will go into effect on January 1, 2008, it is unlawful to transport or cause the transportation of fish susceptible to Viral Hemorrhagic Septicemia (VHS) out of the portion of the Lake Erie watershed in this Commonwealth into other watersheds of this Commonwealth except when certain conditions are met. Section 69.3 further provides that for purposes of the section, species of fish that are VHS-susceptible are those species that the Fish and Boat Commission (Commission) has defined as such by notice published in the Pennsylvania Bulletin. For purposes of section 69.3, the Commission has defined the following species of fish as those that are VHS-susceptible, effective January 1, 2008: Bluegill (Lepomis macrochirus) Bluntnose minnow (Pimephales notatus) Brown trout (Salmo trutta) Bullhead catfish (Ictalurus spp) Burbot (Lota lota) Channel catfish (Ictalurus punctatus) Chinook salmon (Oncorhynchus tshawytscha) Crappie (Pomoxis spp) Emerald shiner (Notropis atherinoides) Freshwater drum (Aplodinotus grunniens) Gizzard shad (Dorosoma cepedianum) Lake whitefish (Coregonus clupeaformis) Largemouth bass (Micropterus salmoides) Muskellunge (Esox masquinongy) Northern pike (Esox lucius) Pumpkinseed (Lepomis gibbosus) Rainbow trout/steelhead (Oncorhynchus mykiss) Redhorse sucker (Moxostoma spp) Rock bass (Ambloplites rupestris) Smallmouth bass (Micropterus dolomieu) Spottail shiner (Notropis hudsonius) Trout-perch (Percopsis omiscomaycus) Walleye (Sander vitreus) White bass (Morone chrysops) White perch (Morone americana) Yellow perch (Perca flavescens)
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 12:49:04
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there is a pet store in johnstown that sales em for 150 a piece. they are babies kids from upj buy them all the time.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 13:03:54
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ORIGINAL: kilbasi kid Anyone know where I can purchase alligators? On 65 in pittsburgh , pet store sells em for 250 a pop.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 15:03:49
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 15:18:34
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Actually Trout, they have take it further than that. It illegal to transport ANY live fish fro the Erie watershed to inland waters. As well as eggs. This guy is not only breaking the law. He is putting his "new" fishery at risk.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 15:23:16
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"Out of curiosity....Anyone know the actual law on releasing fish into another area? I live near a small trib in Erie. It runs right behind my house, but the fish can't make it up that far." Slick, This WOULD be legal. Technically though, by transporting them up stream you will have taken "posession of them. Thus you would only be able to "legally" move 3 fish per day.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 15:52:46
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theres a pet store on 51 that has exotic animals i dont remember the name.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 16:03:14
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ORIGINAL: kilbasi kid Anyone know where I can purchase alligators? $30/each. cheswick and mars both have exotic animal shows every other month. hamburg, pa is HUUUUUUUUGE. www.kingsnake.com
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 17:12:20
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other than the fact that it's illegal, that has been abundantly pointed out IF..the water was cold enough thru the summer, there's no reason they wouldn't survive. be the same as big rainbow, no? am i missing something? i caught a steelie on a deep hole in Connie June 3rd one year. I've heard (from a reliable source) of one being caught in an even deeper hole in mid July These spots are well upstream too ..L.T.A.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 17:17:13
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ORIGINAL: *commander* ORIGINAL: kilbasi kid Anyone know where I can purchase alligators? $30/each. cheswick and mars both have exotic animal shows every other month. hamburg, pa is HUUUUUUUUGE. www.kingsnake.com I like the one in mars, but yeah....Hamburg, been there once and man are there some crazy things there...e.g. snakes for 20k +
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/27 17:45:48
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Getting back to the steelhead question. IF the person in question has the means to keep steelhead alive, and there is abundant food for them why not just catch a couple of regular rainbow trout and feed them excessively. Years ago we did just that on a small creek by my parents house. I caught some 8" bows and we placed them in the small creek. and we fed them almost every day. Within two years from the time I caught them they were in the 18" range. Then some mental giant ignored the "No fishing" signs and caught all ten of the fish. that ended the experiment rather quickly. I just wanted to see how big they would get. I'm thinking 30" (+) in about three or four years.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/28 11:00:00
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Some people think that "No Fishing" means "Good Fishing, just don't get caught"
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/28 21:45:07
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**** bucket biologists sure stock anything anywhere..lol lol
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/29 00:31:39
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I like the one in mars, but yeah....Hamburg, been there once and man are there some crazy things there...e.g. snakes for 20k + said who to the what now.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/29 06:56:57
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He never said he was moving them out of the Erie watershed...So yes it would be legal if he stayed within it..
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/29 10:18:41
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can someone be there to document the entire process? pictures, but video would be better
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/30 05:44:48
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It would also be possible to get them certified as VHS free, just as they do for emerald shiners & king eggs. Ever been hunting in the woods and see a tree stand? Tells me it's a good area to hunt.Now if you had put up a sign that said private property the fish might still be there. My 2cents for the year. It would be a real tragidey if that fellow put them fish in his creek to find out they had VHS and killed off a whole species of fish. Stupid is & stupid was!
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/31 07:03:40
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not a rip, but am I missing something here? I thought Steelies were a hybrid in such they don't reproduce, hence the enormous stocking, if I'm incorrect can someone clue me in. ORIGINAL: kilbasi kid My point exactly.He thinks with the bait fish and plenty of the other sources of food,and no pressure it would survive just fine.They have to reproduce.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/31 09:21:48
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ORIGINAL: venomous grin not a rip, but am I missing something here? I thought Steelies were a hybrid in such they don't reproduce, hence the enormous stocking, if I'm incorrect can someone clue me in. ORIGINAL: kilbasi kid My point exactly.He thinks with the bait fish and plenty of the other sources of food,and no pressure it would survive just fine.They have to reproduce. No Steelhead are not hybrids. There ability to reproduce in PA has everything to do with the water/stream, nothing to do with the fish.
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RE: will it live?
2008/12/31 11:03:38
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lmao wow, someone evidently shared some bad information with me a long time ago and ive been carrying it with me for a long time, and have always thought steelies were sterile, thanks
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