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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 10:50:55
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That thing is a beast.
Are they good to eat when they get that big? I imagine they would basically taste like salmon?
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 11:49:08
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Ya thas a real one!! šŖšŖšŖš
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 12:54:41
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We did a Salmon charter out of Olcott in 2015, ended up with one legal King Salmon, but boy did we ever get into the Steelhead. The Ontario steelies dwarf the ones in Erie.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 13:18:59
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psu_fish The Ontario steelies dwarf the ones in Erie.
I think the same in Michigan and imagine Superior and Huron. I am guessing since all are deeper and salmon programs have worked well (at least in Michigan, not sure of others?). My company HQ is in Green Bay. They think of steelhead as a nuisance. They are worshipped here (with a stringer)... That said, I don't think any of the others have the walleye that Erie has.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 13:40:56
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psu_fish The Ontario steelies dwarf the ones in Erie.
I think the same in Michigan and imagine Superior and Huron. I am guessing since all are deeper and salmon programs have worked well (at least in Michigan, not sure of others?). My company HQ is in Green Bay. They think of steelhead as a nuisance. They are worshipped here (with a stringer)... That said, I don't think any of the others have the walleye that Erie has.
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psu_fish The Ontario steelies dwarf the ones in Erie.
I think the same in Michigan and imagine Superior and Huron. I am guessing since all are deeper and salmon programs have worked well (at least in Michigan, not sure of others?). My company HQ is in Green Bay. They think of steelhead as a nuisance. They are worshipped here (with a stringer)... That said, I don't think any of the others have the walleye that Erie has.
Superior is lacking it seems: Minnesota: King Salmon 33 lbs 4 oz is out of Superior. Coho 10 lb 6 oz New York: King Salmon 47 lb 13 oz caught in the Salmon River, major trib of Lake Onatrio. Coho record is 33 lb 7 oz. Wisconsin: King Salmon Record is 44 lb 15 oz from Lake Michigan, Coho 26 lb 2 oz from Lake Michigan Michigan: King 46.06 lbs from Grand River via snagging in 1978!!. Coho 30.56 lbs Platte River
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 13:43:22
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Itās funny how some species are regarded as a nuisance in certain locales. I saw a post on some Facebook group about how the guys in the tackle shops in Minnesota all laughed at this guy for targeting smallmouth because walleyes are king up there. Walleyes are great to eat and all, but bass are way more fun on the end of a line.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 13:51:47
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psu_fish The Ontario steelies dwarf the ones in Erie.Ā
I think the same in Michigan and imagine Superior and Huron.Ā I am guessing since all are deeper and salmon programs have worked well (at least in Michigan, not sure of others?).Ā My company HQ is in Green Bay.Ā They think of steelhead as a nuisance.Ā They are worshipped here (with a stringer)...Ā That said, I don't think any of the others have the walleye that Erie has.Ā Ā
Erie steelhead arenāt native, are they? Do any of them actually spawn in those tribs? I thought true steelhead lived their adult life in salt water? The Great Lakes steelhead are stocked rainbows that get out into open water, correct?
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 14:36:42
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I do not believe they are native to any of the Great Lakes, nor are the king, coho or pink salmon. I think there might be a native population of Atlantic salmon in Ontario or at one time? I believe the Great Lakes steelhead are the same steelhead found in the Pacific North West, but transplanted here. They are a type of rainbow trout, but different strain than our typical stockie rainbow. At least that is my understanding. I don't think a typical rainbow trout has the instincts in them to run out into the lake and back. I'm guessing those typical stockies were transplanted from some European inland stream system. I think only the brook and lake trout are native to this part of the country. There are different strains of steelhead too, some run in the fall and some in the spring. There used to be a lot of talk on this 10+ years ago on this site. A lot of guys that did a bunch of research on the subject that I am regurgitating from memory...
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/29 16:46:10
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All Great Lake Salmonoids are stocked fish. A true Steelhead is hatched from an egg in some trib of the Pacific Ocean. Then they make their way to the salt. They traverse a life in the ocean. Dodging whales, sharks, sea lions and anything else big enough to eat them. They return as 3 to 5 year olds ( I think) to the same stream to spawn.
NY takes their trout program alittle more serious. A creel limit of 1 Steelhead trout 22". Not 3 15" that we have here in Pa. Another thing is, any fishing of "ditch water tribs" in NY is mostly frowned upon. If you want a chance at bigger fish, NY or Michigan is the place to go. If you have the means NW Pacific or Alaska. IMO
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/07/30 11:39:51
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Erie steelhead arenāt native, are they? Do any of them actually spawn in those tribs?
I thought true steelhead lived their adult life in salt water? The Great Lakes steelhead are stocked rainbows that get out into open water, correct?
No they are not native. Browns, steelhead, all salmon except for Atlantic are all considered landlocked around the Great Lakes and are all stocked. They are actually all saltwater fish that can live in freshwater. If any spawning happens very little percentage. The only native trout are brookies and lake trout. There are two maybe three different strains of steelhead that came from different states. Pretty much they are just rainbows that get big.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/07 15:08:17
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Fished pool 3 this morning, caught 8 walleye in front of the dam.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/09 09:42:41
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We went outta Shades yesterday. Ended up with 6 for the freezer. Mostly "skillet" size ( 16"to 18") with 1 hawg (24"). We threw back probably 8 or 10 just legal sizers (15" to 16") and I couldn't tell you how many dinkers. 55 to 58 FOW had the most marks. Size 1 dispeys with meat caught the most, but we did used some plugs for a bit.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/09 13:42:57
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/09 14:21:16
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That fish doesn't even look that fat. Long and healthy, but imagine it could put on another few pounds... Congrats to the ecstatic looking angler.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/12 08:28:07
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This caught my eye......I'm thinking PFBC just copy/paste prior year reports...as there is no way Woodcock Creek Lake is flush with fish after the whole draindown accident
August 4, 2021Crawford County Woodcock Creek Lake Anglers are catching Smallmouth Bass, panfish, Walleye. Reminder all people on a boat less than 16 feet and all canoes and kayaks must always wear a wearable personal floatation device.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/12 12:48:01
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Maybe the Corps will try to completely drain Kinzua for their next feat of epicness!
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/12 13:46:40
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"The Great Kinzua Reservoir"...
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/12 13:49:35
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2021/08/12 16:59:03
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hahah...oldie but a goodie.... But, I can personally attest to the awesome ice fishing and fall walleye fishing on Kinzua. Biggest pike I ever laid eyes on came through the ice there.....and some dandy walleye... Biggest walleye I ever saw though, was through the ice, on the Allegheny river.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/12 18:15:28
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Aside from Erie, it was my favorite bass tournament stop.
The poster formally known as Duncsdad Everything I say can be fully substantiated by my own opinion.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/12 19:25:06
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Did you ice fish the river or the reservoir?
I was at the river below the dam a few weeks back, but completely blown out. I was bummed. Couldnāt do our float trip or fish. Tried the fishing part, but no go. My buddy had me all psyched up for the smallmouth bite.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/13 07:42:47
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I have ice fished the reservoir multiple times. Some great adventures up there...chaining up, several mile drive on unmaintained winter roads with ice/2' of snow.....then, a mile or more trudge over the ice to our spot. Some great times though... I never had the opportunity to ice fish the river. It was never "safe" when I was up there....but safe is relative when talking about some of those Warren co. ice fishing nuts. Some of those guys are out on 2" of clear in the early season....not me...no way...
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/13 10:55:03
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No fish is worth ice fishing on a river for me! I know people do, but no way I am even going out on ice with moving water under. I could definitely get into fishing the reservoir, probably more into other local smaller lakes on the ice. The reservoir would be kind of scary. Anything controlled by the USACE, I am not sure if I want to be on. That is prior to the Woodcock incident too. I have heard guys drill through ice, look down and it is 5' or more air between them and the water. No thanks. I am definitely going to hit that area again. I had work in Warren years ago and didn't think too much of it. Rarely do I when I am there for a work day trip. This past trip, my GPS had me taking 62 from Tionesta up. What a nice stretch of road with the cabins on the river. Looked great, even with high water. Can only imagine how nice the wading/floating are when the water is lower. We also stopped at the Bent Run Brewing Co. in Warren. Beer was pretty good. Only got some appetizers since we had dinner planned at camp. Apps were pretty good. The other food looked good too. The blonde bar tender, wowzers!!!
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/16 09:08:34
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I ended up making it out to the Yough on Sunday for a few hours. The water was rather stained, but wasn't roaring. The fishing was pretty good. Not fish after fish, but we got some nice small mouth to play. I haven't been able to fish the past few weeks with work and projects around the house. So, it was nice to finally spend a few hours on the water. Hopefully work is going to slow down and able to get out again soon.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/16 16:14:49
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Just spent a week on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and for the most part fishing sucked. First two days were OK with a couple keeper speckled trout and some smaller ones with high tide in the morning. Then it was nothing but hardhead cats and 12ā ladyfish as high tide was after noon each day (only one tide cycle a day there). Saw pics of great catches on a couple Facebook groups I follow of flounder, specks and reds for a couple weeks leading up and then all of a sudden everyone said the same thing: dead. The owner of the AirBnB we rented stopped by to cut the grass Wednesday and we got to talking. He offered to take us out in his boat on Friday morning. Said we could do MS or the marsh in Louisiana. I didnāt have to think twice and my boys didnāt either, and we launched out of Delacroix, LA Friday morning at 6:30. Tag teamed with my youngest on this 29ā not quite a bull red not too long after we started fishing. Got another 20ā ish slot red and those were the best fish of the day. Lost and missed a couple more good ones and we got a lot of fish in the boat but not many in the cooler. Oldest son threw flies the whole time and didnāt stick a fish but got to fish in a place heās wanted to for a long time. Attachments are not available: Download requirements not met
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2021/08/16 16:41:21
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Snagr, glad you and the kids got to enjoy a bit of saltwater fun. Sucks that the tide and bite didn't cooperate much. Hopefully you can return to do it again next year.
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2021/08/16 20:27:58
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Anytime out with the kids is a great time. š
FL2, how's the leg healing? I have a few questions about East PA Erie. Any chance I could pick you're brain about a few things? Unlock your PMs and send me a response, if you would?
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/17 19:42:20
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Camped at the Irwin Run dispersed camping site on the Clarion from Sunday - Tuesday. Got a bunch of smallmouth. Nothing huge but we got enough to keep us busy. If I could spend more time on that river I think I could find the big chunks. It was my first time getting a kayak out on that part of the river so it was super cool exploring it a bit. We paddled all the way up to the Z rapids at one point. What a gorgeous river. I would definitely love to spend more time there.
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Re: anyone fishing
2021/08/18 23:47:52
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OK, another pic from a New York outdoor site. Is this believable? It almost looks like a time-lapse image to me.
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2021/08/19 08:12:43
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Totally believable, esp. this time of year when they are in bachelor groups. Shortly, they will tire of each other's company and spread out to their own territories. I am hoping this year will be a good one for hunting. Been seeing a TON of deer (doe, fawns, bucks) all over the place when out driving. I think a lot less roadkills happened, in general, in 2020, due to the pandemic and people staying put. I know more people were out hunting but I think many less were taken out by vehicles. That's my story and sticking to it!
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