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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/10 06:42:56 (permalink)
Soooooo Dr Fauci has been diagnosed but not to worry, only with a "mild" form😉😉 of Covid-19 so Dr Fauci may continue in his capacity.


So anyways, a question to lead off the day.

Testing for Covid-19 is fast becoming everywhere and results are almost immediate so my thought(s).

Will we now be required to test upon entering a facility, say Walmart, then test again when existing said facility?

Annnnd will this be the norm, for all facilities, everyday, through all future flu epidemics or will desiner medical mask be the acceptable norm?


In other news... UFC leads the way with getting sports back on the air.

So sports fans, to help occupy your time while waiting to be called back to work😷, you now have sports on "pay-for-view".

Brillient, thank you UFC👍

Yepper, never let a good crisis go to waste.

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/10 08:23:35 (permalink)
Dr Fauci has not been diagnosed with anything (as of the latest information I saw), he had an exposure to someone who was a confirmed case.  The exposure incident (apparently) wasn't considered to be a high risk situation (very close quarters, extended time, etc) so he is doing what they call a modified quarantine, and will be working from home and limiting in person contacts for 14 days.  
I would expect he is able to maintain the needs of his position through video conferencing and other IT. 
 
Here is a link to a CBS story , if you have different information please post link, I would be interested in seeing if information was updated. 
https://news.yahoo.com/fa...rantine-005614485.html
 
Edit to add another source, similar info. 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/10/global-report-anthony-fauci-and-two-other-white-house-covid-19-taskforce-members-to-self-quarantine
 
There appear to be similar stories on ABC and CNN, but didn't add those links.
post edited by Fisherlady2 - 2020/05/10 08:34:55
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/10 09:16:56 (permalink)
No Fisherlady, I stand corrected and thankyou. 🍻

I since searched and found similar info to that of yours.

The info I saw indicated a mild case. My bad😔

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/10 09:21:46 (permalink)
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/10 10:02:42 (permalink)
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Is to... 😞

Stay well & be safe

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/10 12:23:44 (permalink)
Tesla now suing Alemeda County for having stricter shut down rules than the state of CA. Threatening to move out of CA.

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/10 12:34:38 (permalink)
Companies are fleeing California for Texas. Low overall taxes and no income tax. Take all those jobs with them. The Big Blue States just don't get that they're chasing away their income and people's jobs.

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/10 12:40:40 (permalink)
Problem is that the employees who follow the business take their liberal politics with them and ruin the  places they go to.
Texas - with the influx of these businesses- has been turning from red to blue for some time now.
People somehow think it will be different even when voting the same as where they ran from.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/11 16:37:49 (permalink)
Why I Wonder.... by BTDT the conspiracists .

https://www.post-gazette....e/stories/202005090064

NOTE: I hope ya can read the entire article before being required to subscribe.
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Pa. had an early plan to protect nursing home residents from COVID-19, but never fully implemented it.......




It is reported 68% of Covid-19 related deaths (in PA) have occured in PA nursing homes, a state having a very high number of nursing homes.

A question, followed by the look on Wolf's face, during a live interview caught my attention. Tom was asked about a letter calling for the resignation of his right hand man, due to the nursing home deaths. Wolf was like; wait...! What??

Also, when questioned about LeVines decision making, Tom defended with, "blaming the messenger". Wait...! What, isn't it Levine that Wolf refers to, as being the expert in making his (Wolfe's) decision to control the lives of the people.

Not to be mistaken for seeing my glass half empty, I do think laughter is good medicine and I would like to point out the humor associated with the same interview.

Tom was asked about his schedule to further open the state, just days "after" the primaries.

Why wait Mr Tom.... everyone know's Mondays are the norm, for getting back to work.
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2020/05/11 17:39:25

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/11 17:46:36 (permalink)
Wolfe is a stuttering mess especially when it comes to question time, don't think anyone knows what that are talking about to begin with. I respect Levine's personal choices but don't think coming from a pediatric background is enough to be given reigns over a pandemic for the whole state. The approaches to this are beginning to be far worst then the disease. Then again I'm one of those who agree to allowing it to burn through the population while asking elderly and those at highest risk to continue isolating.

Hope small business owners whose businesses collapsed and unemployed workers who haven't received a dime over the course of this due to outdated an failed systems seek somesort of legal retribution against their state.

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/11 18:35:53 (permalink)
MM the legal issue was also discussed and Wolf insist he has the right to do as he see's fit.

When asked about concerns of lawsuits, "No" followed by silence.

In the event of lawsuits, Wolf will not pay a dime from his own pocket and I'm guessing won't care what he may be costing the tax payers.

I agree on the elderly and those at high risk taking extra precaution and I think those people would do so without force. I include those now suffering news media induced paranoia.

For those of us who like a good challenge, bring it on.

Speaking of paranoia, I am jealous and maybe a tad bit disappointed too😞 not being offered any popcorn.

Dam just mentioning the word, takes me back to your post and creating long term giggles.

I enjoyed reading your opinion. 🍻
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/12 12:49:19 (permalink)
Welp.... Tesla is up an running. No forced shut down or arrest yet.

Sherriff says "that" person is responsible for decision before he can move, and "this" person says they must wait to hear from "someone else" and, someone else says they must wait to see a plan to reopen.

Meanwhile the Cal. Gov continues doing his impression(s) of PA Gov.

As the great Dr. "Now" would say.... got dat?
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2020/05/12 12:53:37

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/12 16:21:15 (permalink)
Enough is enough already.

Since I no longer have a truck, I need to rent a trailer to get any rental equipment. So, since I had to rent a trailer to rent a rear tine tiller (I plant 200 yards of wildflowers for my wife), I figured I would make use of the trailer for other things as well.

I picked up 4 apple trees and a plum tree at the nursery. Then I figured I would stop at the local Wally World ( it is 2 miles from my house) to get 30 bags of mulch (bags are easier for the distance between my trees). The outside area is roped off — all around. The plan was for me to load while my wife went in to pay for it.

So in we both go. Of course only one door in, as far away from where I parked at the garden center. Trek the whole way over to the garden center and they tell me that they are not permitted to sell any under the Governor’s orders until Friday.

So as to not waste the trip, I go into the outside garden center to look for landscape cloth and a clerk comes running out line I had entered a crime scene screaming that I’m not permitted in there under Governor’s orders.

We try calling Lowe’s and there automated answering just gives their new hours. A call to Home Depot finds they have mulch, at 33% more, and can sell it. So I drive 18 miles to get it. I pay for 30 bags, go to load it, and there are 25.

So the entire length of the property I go to let them know. After calling 3 people, they determine they have more and will bring it out. That was 45 minutes ago. This means the place I rented the trailer and tiller from is now closed due to all this running around and I get to pay for another day of rental.

I decided to go see what the hold up was and walked the entire length of the property for the fourth time. The guy at the door says I can’t got inside without a mask (I put in the SUV while waiting), so I asked if he could get on his radio to find out what happened to my mulch. He said it was indeed he that brought the bags of mulch from the back of the yard and it was sitting by the contractor entrance.

I told him that it was to come out of the garden center near where I was parked according to the person who made the call to get more. He said that he had to drop it by the contractor entrance because his duty was shifted to mask patrol and counting people in and out in accordance with Governor’s orders. When I told him I was waiting for 45 minutes, he said that, yes, he saw me standing next to the trailer loaded with bags of mulch, but could not leave his post counting people and making sure they were mask compliant.

Keep in mind that last I looked our county had less than 30 cases and 2 deaths. In fact, the only county with any appreciable numbers of cases , about 100 with 3-5 deaths, in a 10 county area, is open and the others are closed.

Any ventures to guess which one voted Democrat?
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/12 16:39:25 (permalink)
What a frustrating day for you. There doesn’t seem to be any logic in place as to what is open or closed. The lady who grooms our dogs called yesterday and said she will open for business at the end of this month with guidelines in place. Leash the dogs, a place to tie them when you enter, wear a mask and there will be a barrier in place and a place to put the payment. No big deal. I asked her why we couldn’t have just done that a month ago. She didn’t know. Crazy Times.

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/12 19:09:55 (permalink)
The wife and I took our female Dane to the Vet a couple weeks back. We had an appointment but had to call them from the parking lot. They sent an attendant out and she took the dog inside; half hour later the Doctor came out and told us what's goin' on, then in a little while the attendant brought the dog back out. (Let me rephrase: the dog dragged the attendant back out to the car) She took our credit card, and told us we could pick it up with a scrip at one of the doors, open to the outside, but you can't get in that way. Seemed like a lot of extra caution for Armstrong Co. I don't think the virus is rampant in our part of the state.

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/12 19:36:44 (permalink)
My turn.... my turn.

Drove to Ohio, walked into the grocery store. Young man, wearing mask cleaning carts stops and, offers us a freshly cleaned cart.

Mask required to be worn I asked and the answer was no not required but would appreciate maintaining distance, as well as following directional arrows found on the floor.

We bid our thank you and good day before entering the store, pushing our freshly cleaned cart.

Didn't take many steps before seeing customers at the checkout(s) as well as customers in the aisles ahead of us. Some were and some were not wearing mask.

Finished our shopping, checking out our newly found bounty and holding a nice conversation with a cashere wearing his mask around his neck. Only does he properly don his mask, if a customer approaches, themselves wearing a mask.

During our egress, we noted inbound customers some of whom were wearing mask and others were not. One notable mask being red in colorbwith white letters saying Trump/Pence 2020

My wife and I both had mask with us as we always ask what the existing policy is before we enter a store.

From the beginning of the lockdown till present, traveling from the deep south to NW PA, we have never been asked to wear a mask. NEVER until one day, returning from Walmart last week, I stopped at a gas station and filled a 5 gallon gas can at which time the pump informed me, to see the clerk for a receipt.

Following said directions, I opened the door to the facility and was greeted with "excuse me, do you have a mask"? Yes I do I said but I'm following the directions on the gas pump to see the clerk for a receipt. "You'll need to put on your mask before coming in here" came the order. Not a problem I said, pump 7, could I have a receipt I ask. "You need to get outside" came a stern command. OK I answered, pump 7, my receipt please and I'll go outside. "YOU CAN NOT COME IN HERE" WITHOUT A MASK" came the reply. Smiling and pulling my shirt up over my mouth I answered, do your job and service the pumps, so they print receipts and people won't have to come in here without a mask.

I guess I told him..... huh?

But seriously, if folks feel safer wearing mask then by all means do it. However, if folks feel unsafe because I do not choose to wear a mask.... pulleez feel free to leave the store and come back, when I'm gone.

ummm, is that being selfish?

Thing of it is, I'm not alone in choosing to, not wear a mask.

Well anyways, that's my story blah blah... blah blah.
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2020/05/12 19:43:58

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/12 19:48:42 (permalink)
Every where I go to shop or enter a place of business wearing a mask is required. I prefer it that way. Maybe it’s just a false sense of security but for the time being I will deal with it.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 07:35:53 (permalink)
What I didn’t get was Wally World, which has been open the entire time, with people inside, was not permitted to sell garden supplies, which are outside, until Friday, by order of Wolf, but HD is, as is the nursery (Mennonite, with no masks or distancing).

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 08:06:43 (permalink)
They are generally dumb azz rules by people with no training or experience whatsoever doing what seems politically expedient at the time- thus generally -as you found out- make no sense whatsoever to anyone with common sense,
Like the idiot from  Michigan saying ya can take your boat out but NO FISHING- Why?
Or NYC doing social distancing but keeping the Subways open and sending Covis patients to Nursing homes with the most vulnerable folks, then wondering why they top the country with cases.
This is what would happen even moreso with a more socialistic Govt- this is kinda like a trial run for those with those ambitions.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 08:45:29 (permalink)
Politicizing rational health decisions is really getting old already.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 08:57:31 (permalink)
Then LEAVE there not rational decisions there were nonsense
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 09:10:27 (permalink)
“I can’t buy mulch, I’m so oppressed”
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 09:41:01 (permalink)
Are all y'all talkin.......

Rules made by persons of political power, based on the opinion of 1 person touting "scientific" data gleaned from "models" produced by computer programs proven totally wrong, time and time again. A person using Scientific data gleaned from computer models being fed specific information to produce agenda meeting reports. (congestive heart failure "with" signs of C-19; death= Covid-19).

Rules based on the opinion of one man who said, no mask needed, take a cruise, the young may experience mild flu like or no symptoms at all. The same man still using the term "scientific data" says??? The same man, who knows the "true scientific" history of virus related deaths, in long term health care facilities.

Decisions by persons in political power, who fear the wrath of the anti-America journalist if the career fearing politician disagrees with the one man, who bases his opinion on a faulty computer model(s). The same man who disputes a drug "proving scientifically", in real time, to cure the sick? The same man who promotes another drug proven scientifically, to "only shorten the duration of the virus. The same drug, sources say, being tested to treat viruses in cats. But what do sources know anyhow?

Rules by politicians in power, who base their opinion in fear of the anti-America journalist who at every positive turn, create a new boogeyman?

Scientifically speaking, is Dr Fauci the "only" person capable of making decisions regarding infectious disease? Scientifically, I'd say Dr Fauci is a legend in his own mind who has his hand on the flush handle trying to pull his legacy out.

Scientifically saying...

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 09:43:44 (permalink)
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“I can’t buy mulch, I’m so oppressed”


Of course you've no need for mulch. Living in your (???) basement, playing with joysticks.
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2020/05/13 10:06:42

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 10:02:13 (permalink)
Addendum: Rules......

Rules based on a man who promotes "injecting" your children and grand children with vaccines that prevent kids from building their own virus fighting immunities so next out break the kids will need "injected" with more vaccines that first must be approved by the FDA & CDC.

Then produced by big pharma buying needed supply from a foreign country.

Good grief, save the children from pollution and pump em full of vaccines. Yeahhhhhhh buddy.👍


Butt that's only me being me..... based on scientific studies.🙊
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 10:41:45 (permalink)
I don't knock Fauci- he gives the medical opinions he is trained and expert in giving and asked for.
 In his world ya don't stop distancing and having restrictions or the disease may well reinfect -everything else be darned.
 
Others must work his opinions, as best as common sense allows, into economic and social realities as they exist in a not so perfect world.
There is no one expert opinion fits all realities as those opinions come from experts in different fields.
 
None are completely right or wrong- just doing their best in their capacities to make it work.
 
Trump has the hardest job of all having to meld the differences together to a workable outcome where, of course, many will find fault no matter how he manages it.
 
Enter Cryin Chuck- not so normal Nancy-Pencil Neck- Penguin- Lib Press - etc etc---Monday morning quarterbacks, with an agenda, all.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 11:09:56 (permalink)
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“I can’t buy mulch, I’m so oppressed”


Of course you've no need for mulch. Living in your (???) basement, playing with joysticks.


If that is what MyWar took from my post, no one needs to be concerned for them because they will soon fade away after winning a Darwin Award.

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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 11:18:56 (permalink)
Kerpins Fox article on state Govts dropping the ball and leaving Nursing Home residents to HUGE death percentages in many states shows the discrepancy between professional persons making decisions and politicians.
This is clearly a window into non professionals, or just plain no common sense individual politicos, making big decisions beyond their capabilities, resulting in chaos.
Pure health professionals like Fauci would NEVER have suggested such a thing IMHO.
Again - ya can take your boat out but NO FISHING--- nonsense
 
And YES-- it does go all the way down the ladder to something as non threatening as  buying mulch.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 11:48:18 (permalink)
“Rules are for other people, I should be able to do whatever I want”

I also took that from your post my dude.
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Re: Coronavirus opinions 2020/05/13 11:50:13 (permalink)
“Any time something bad happens, it’s because of Democrats”

That as well.
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