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2018/09/26 07:07:38 (permalink)

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Hello y’all. New to the steelhead game but eager to catch one. I went up 5 times last year and had no luck. Can anyone tell me if it’s too soon to go cast little Cleo’s into the lake from the mouth? Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 07:59:57 (permalink)
Not this year but I had fabulous luck wading in front of trout run. Don't be afraid to go to the east a hundred yards or so. Little Cleo 1/3 oz Chartreuse and silver my favorite. Best bite is pre dawn daylight. Fish go deeper on bright days overcast days like today would be best. 10' noodle rod 6 lb test sends it far. Seems like the first few turns get the hits,there out there just about a far as you can send it. End of the wall at the nut works but usually crowded.
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 08:00:28 (permalink)
Now would be a great time to do that-meaning “now” as in this time of year.

But you need to check wind conditions. If it’s too windy no one wants to stand down there and get pummeled by waves!

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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 08:07:34 (permalink)
Yes and yes. Take some time out of fishing and be a spectator to the people who know what’s going on. But whatever you do...don’t be the guy who plans on weaseling into a spot at 9 am after everyone is already settled in

Gill em to kill em then Rope em smoke em
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 08:13:10 (permalink)
I don't fish the creek mouths a lot, but a few things I've found helpful . . .
 
Now is good.  As the lake cools, it'll only get better.  All the way through the end of October can be productive there.  
 
A steelhead slamming a Cleo is pretty fun, but if you get tired of hucking hardware, soft plastics on a jig head fished under a bobber anywhere from 2'-6' can be effective too.  Just floating baits under a small float can work too - single eggs, sacks, shiners.
 
Don't be the guy that feels the need to wade up to your waist into the lake.  Although lots of people do it, steelhead cruise around surprisingly close to shore.  Ankle deep is more than enough.  
 
 
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 08:13:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FiveMilePete 2018/09/26 20:30:37
And also don’t be the guy who wades into the water too far! Sometimes the fish are very close to the surf.

Shoot that goes for the creeks too! Most times in Erie ya don’t gotta wade. I see duuds standing in the middle of the run and just move on.

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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 08:39:27 (permalink)
I seen a boy and his dad last September standing in the middle of the creek at the stop sign hole literally over top of about a dozen fish lol he kept moving with the pod around the stream regardless of who else was standing on the shore line fishing at the time don’t be that guy either

Gill em to kill em then Rope em smoke em
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 09:29:44 (permalink)
IMO waders are only really needed to cross the creek. Like PooFLinger said, spend some time watching and listening. There are a lot of good people that give good advice when you encounter them on the stream. A thin strong fluorocarbon leader helps a lot as well.
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 10:01:54 (permalink)
rsquared
soft plastics on a jig head fished under a bobber anywhere from 2'-6' can be effective too.  Just floating baits under a small float can work too - single eggs, sacks, shiners.
 

Set the hook on any pause or slight movement of your bobber out of the ordinary.  They often hit lighter than a 3" bluegill, but when the hook is set, turn into freight trains.  I don't know how many times I would wait for them to "take it", and missed out on a ton of fish.  Started doing this, and caught 10 times as many.  Who cares if you are setting the hook on nothing many times.  Very rarely will they hit and run with it.  Or, need to be patient for them to take it.  Usually, in their mouth to check it out, then spit out when feel the hook or not what they thought it was.
Minnie Foo or other jigs under said bobber, tipped with maggots catches a good portion of EirwE stEekhads//.  They seem to love those plastic "trout worms" in early season too.  Put one of those on a hook with a few pieces of lead 18" in front of it, and cast/retrieve like you would a Cleo.  Same thing in the streams with less lead.  You would be surprised how dumb these fish are.  I've had them charge from 30' away to smack those things.  They kind of look like an eel if hooked the right way, experiment.  Make sure your drag is set light enough for them to run, but not too loose to take an hour to reel it in.  Especially out in the lake, or someone might snip you off...
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 12:22:29 (permalink)
How far from the mouth of the creek (left and right) can you go and still catch fish? 100 yards from the mouth? or farther? Never tried it, but the videos make it look fun.
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 13:04:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cdcaddis 2018/09/26 17:09:25
You can go all the way to Canada.

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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 14:58:55 (permalink)
Fish swim,you can fish the beach and catch them,at trout run there's a lot of beach. My favorite spot is east by the rocks in the water. Nobody can predict where they'll be. You gotta fish,that's why it's called fishing not catching.
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 16:43:11 (permalink)
My preferred choice was to stay in the outflow mainly on most tribs feeding into the lake. For some reason they just prefer that current. Not that you can't catch fish further away, but staying in the flow is sometimes critical to more action. I've seen many occasions guys 50 feet away right and left barely hook up and guys in the flow just slamming fish all morning. Problem is the out flows are super crowded so be prepared. Years ago when I arrived early before light and the crowds I would grab some small sticks and toss them into the lake and watch how they flowed out ....that's was my best indicator where to be ! Sometimes the currents don't flow just straight out might be more east or west flowing.   
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/26 20:09:24 (permalink)
CAPTAIN HOOK
My preferred choice was to stay in the outflow mainly on most tribs feeding into the lake. For some reason they just prefer that current. Not that you can't catch fish further away, but staying in the flow is sometimes critical to more action. I've seen many occasions guys 50 feet away right and left barely hook up and guys in the flow just slamming fish all morning. Problem is the out flows are super crowded so be prepared. Years ago when I arrived early before light and the crowds I would grab some small sticks and toss them into the lake and watch how they flowed out ....that's was my best indicator where to be ! Sometimes the currents don't flow just straight out might be more east or west flowing.   


GREAT TIP THANK YOU !
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/27 12:20:49 (permalink)
Thank you for the information, it is appreciated! 
 
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/27 16:09:48 (permalink)
I picked up a new shimongo rill today powerbait was on sale too got 47 jars 👊🏼👊🏼

Gill em to kill em then Rope em smoke em
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/27 16:32:40 (permalink)
Mmmm powerbaits, sauteed with shrooms & onions in cast iron skillet over a open fire shore lunch. Gooder too when stuck on a fresh cut wiener stick and toasted over an open fire.

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a life time. ~Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie (1837–1919)~
 
 
 
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/27 21:32:04 (permalink)
When Power Bait first came out it was only a tan color and mostly non floating...about 5 bucks a jar. Later it came in floating ,all colors , with glitter , nuggets and whatever today. No doubt that stuff slams Steelies or Trout especially when floating off the bottom. No special technique roll in a small ball and fish it with a slip sinker and a BB size shot about a foot away and your ready.
 
Trout Run was so over fished with Power Bait years ago the surface was literally covered with floating rainbow colored balls ! Sea Gulls would feast on them too but still the surface was bobbing with plenty of colored floats that fishermen lost casting or false strikes....lol
 
I personally never used or bought Power Bait . I came up with my own design or material that worked as well as PB back then. The color is the main attractant , plus the floating, smell is last, but it all works together.    
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/27 21:56:03 (permalink)
I only keep one color on hand🤔 I only pull it out in desperation, and it has never let me down....

Gill em to kill em then Rope em smoke em
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Re: Mouth 2018/09/27 22:22:47 (permalink)
Chunk of Garlic Baloney on #10 snelled hook dangling below a 4 to 6" strip of "lead wrap". Unless ya could afford a 25 cent jar of salmon eggs then we would eat the baloney ourselves. The cool dudes had red eggs and us less fortunate got stuck using the stupid gold things.

Been awhile since I used salmon eggs, them things still stink? I remember getting that oil on my fingers and the smell would last forever.

Any wonder, when trout fishing, we preferred eating garlic baloney samidges... with mustard?

Ahh, them was the days.

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a life time. ~Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie (1837–1919)~
 
 
 
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