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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/25 20:26:25 (permalink)
Not a fan of my wife's grandmother recipe. Is similar to yours Clint with just pouring hot brine into jars. The extra process in recipe is to kosher salt and sit for 3hrs over ice then rinse. Seems like an additional process. Why not just add salt to brine and skip the 3 hrs of sitting and rinsing ?
I'm gonna tweak the next batch and just make brine, add cukes and onions, garlic cold in jars then add brine and cann for 15 minutes as usual.
Anytime I add vegetables to a jar I sterilize jars and lids then boil 15 minutes to remove air. Haven't died yet.
Tomorrow will be busy day for sure...

As a side note.
We vacuum seal a lot of our produce and all our chickens we do here. Our hogs and beef are done with commercial equipment but word of note for a home system.
We found a certain brand in bulk 50 foot rolls are awesome. Far better than food saver brand.
Very heavy duty. We use about 300 feet a year.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/25 20:32:33 (permalink)
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I never actually "can " pickles just pour hot brine over cukes and place the lid. It seals fine and the brine is what preserves everything. I use 50/50 vinegar to water I like mine sour. Dill , garlic , onion to taste. Used alum and or grape leaves to keep them crunchy. Some are ,some aren't, but I actually like mine a bit mushy so all us good . Did it like that for years, just like granny and her mom. No processing.


That's exactly how we do it. I got a recipe uses mustard seed, pickling spice and dill. Very anxious to do the tomatoes.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/26 13:46:02 (permalink)
Yeah, I couldn't find pickling spice the other day at the store.....just need to make my own I guess.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/26 15:06:42 (permalink)
Many things are difficult to find locally here, like jar lids. I'm so glad we stocked up good last season.
Speaking of which, the goodness is simmering in the 10 quart pot.
It took 5 colander worth and I finally got to use my own grown peppers too.
WAY to hot for me to do anything functional outside.

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/26 19:36:04 (permalink)
☝️☝️☝️ Yassssss!!
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/26 19:38:01 (permalink)
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Yeah, I couldn't find pickling spice the other day at the store.....just need to make my own I guess.


Stores I went to today were wiped out of everything. Took me 3 stops to get some stuff.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/26 20:41:37 (permalink)
No lids or jars anywhere. I gave plenty of jars and a few dozen lids. Will freeze veggies if I have to. I forgot salt to brine to taste, usually half cup or so to the gallon, don't like them salty

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/26 22:32:15 (permalink)
Clint I'm with ya there. Blanch and freeze. We froze tomatoes and potatoes. Vacuum sealed a few pecks and they remained good for more then a year.

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 07:46:27 (permalink)
☔Rain on the way today for my neighborhood in PA. Unfortunately, the weather dude say, not in a long term gentle way. (🙄) I know a poet I am not, but anyway.

NWS saying heavy rains to be expected and areas receiving multiple storms may see localized flooding.

🤥High damaging winds are also possible with the storms.

According to my weather clock, my neighborhood can see the rain begin sometime around noonish.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 10:51:08 (permalink)
Looks like I'll be ordering pickling spice and canning lids from Amazon....it is showing they are available there.....for now...
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 11:09:31 (permalink)
well...maybe no canning lids from Amazon....prices are really jacked up on there.....
 
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 12:09:29 (permalink)
Giant Eagle had pickling spice. Maybe check a Sam's or Costco for a bigger portion. I actually found bands and lids at a Savalot near me and jars at Dollar General. Definelty have to scrounge around. Everyone grew a garden this year. Canning supplies have become the new toilet paper🤣🤣🤣. Good luck. Already went through 13 pints and the 6 quarts I had laying around, in pickles.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 12:22:08 (permalink)
We made our pickling spice from scratch, it wasn't to difficult really.
I had my wife look on Amazon for jar lids as I can never have to many and when she told me the price I said no way.
I'd check out the places you might not normally go , hardware stores, agway and such.

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 17:26:12 (permalink)
Tonight I have to cann the sauce we made yesterday. So far we've got 20 quarts sauce ( counting tonight) towards our goal of 100 quarts. I don't like freezing sauce, seems to get watery.
A quick rundown on the pigs and a pick from the garden.
Everyday will probably be a harvest of these and while I can't wait on pickles, we will do another 10 quarts sauce this weekend.
I do miss green beans but they will come heavy in September.
This heat sucks.

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 18:48:13 (permalink)
I found small mouth lids and wide mouth lids and bands at country max. I bought what they had. I have plenty of small mouth lids now and 40 or so wide so I should be good. Each place had jars , spices , pectin also. If I would of looked closer the lids with bands were only $3 less than jars lids and bands but I really dont need any more jars LOL, . When this quiets down I will try the reusable lids and pull some of the old glass lid jars from the cellar and see what got, as the rubber seals are reusable to a point. Still waiting on the first tomato, but I have plenty green. Corn 2 weeks, onions zucs and beans coming in. My cukes again only did fair and we are getting enough to eat but not pickle. I still have a later plated batch that look good with many flowers though. Rain missed us again

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 20:36:43 (permalink)
I get about 3 years from rings before I call rusty. Lids I change after every jar. I'm partial to wide mouth and probably have 200 plus jars dating back to grandparents. Obviously cleaned and sterilized every summer.
Clint, I'd say we are 3 weeks ahead of you. I'm 2 weeks ahead of my son just below the blue line ( adirondacks).
I will say, your country is great for garlic, taters and deep roots veggies. Mine not so much. Corn , tomatoes and beans thrive down here.
We just got screwed by lack of rain since corona came.
I can't wait for the pigs to go in this heat, I know they are suffering as much as me tending them.

It's great to turn off the news and build a garden..

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/27 20:36:43 (permalink)
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/28 20:43:04 (permalink)
Picked a 5 gallon bucket of green beans tonight. Canning half , freezing half. Should have enough cukes for pickles by this weekend

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/29 08:29:11 (permalink)
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well...maybe no canning lids from Amazon....prices are really jacked up on there.....
 


Whenever Walmart is sold out of lids, my local Dollar General will have lids. They are the Golden Harvest brand, but they are made by same people who make the Ball brand. They have worked great for me.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/29 19:24:46 (permalink)
I am absolutely NOT a fan of my wife's grandma or any online grandma pickle recipe for bread and butter pickles. I have no clue as to why one would salt and ice fresh cukes for 3 hrs then wash/ rinse and cann. It all seems soggy to me at that point.
I really like the pre pack mix of boil and pour on fresh. Maybe I'm missing the purpose of salting first ?
I am in process of doing another 8 pint jars and it will probably be my last pickles for this year. 16 is enough.
I planted 4 coke seeds and have plenty still producing, rest with be given away.
Picking tomatoes daily with another batch of sauce this weekend.
Still haven't started my fall harvest crops yet. To hot, no rain. Like NO rain here. I can't remember a day of steady rain since the mud season of May. For 2 months we have not had a full day of rain..
Is it 2021 yet ? I want a do over for a year..

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/29 19:34:09 (permalink)
The rain has went around us again too. Syracuse got it , sandy creek got it .we got none

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/29 19:58:55 (permalink)
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The rain has went around us again too. Syracuse got it , sandy creek got it .we got none

Haven't you already gotten some measurable rain events ? We've only gotten trace rainfalls or 10 minute gully washers.
I'm jealous but the bright side, mosquitos have been non existent this year.
Happy gardening

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I usually have large fires, either burn or hangout. The burn ban was March 15th- May 15. Since May 15th, its been so dry I haven't lit a match outside here
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/29 20:44:02 (permalink)
Watering every other day for weeks- one decent 20 minute rain a week or two back - thats it -keeps missing us.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/30 08:16:28 (permalink)
I planted 6 tomatoes on 5/21, and none of them are even close to having a ripe red tomatoes. Each plant is absolutely loaded with green ones though, so I should be knee deep in salsa making sometime in August. Picked a bunch of sweet banana peppers last night, my green peppers didn't fare to well this year. I'll get a couple green ones in August, but for 8 plants, will be a bad harvest.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/30 09:13:59 (permalink)
Apple trees are aborting most all apples.
Been so very dry and now temps in the high 90s for over a week.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/30 09:47:13 (permalink)
Yea we got one day of rain a few weeks ago. Other than that a 5 minute down pour or a few drops

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/30 11:05:45 (permalink)
My apple trees (4 years old) have very few apples, but they are hanging on. What did them, plus the peaches, pears, and crabapples in my woods was 4 nights in the 20’s in a row after the trees had flowered.

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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/30 11:45:03 (permalink)
Had a late frost here too and the blossems suffered greatly-
There were still plenty of young apples about an inch around that dropped like crazy over the past few weeks in this heat and long dry spell.
They always drop the extras early but this time seems bout 90 percent dropped.
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/30 12:27:01 (permalink)
Getting into drought condition locally,every time rain clouds show on radar they are near but far from me.Mowed some of my lawn yesterday and dust was billowing up in some area's,not good!
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Re: The garden thread 2020/07/30 14:05:06 (permalink)
I haven't mowed my yard in over 2 weeks.
I'm watering my garden daily and adding water to my inground pool every 3 days.
Our streams here are little more than a trickle.
There is a fire ban, water use ban and drought condition alert.

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