Congratulations! Next generation of first mates for the boat!

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Have a very large public owned area nearby where my favored Trout stream flows. Have been fishing there since I couldn't go alone and am now 71.
There is a 'FRIENDS OF' kind of organization managing the place having put in many miles of long hiking, bike and horse trails and maintain them very well.. To their  credit.
Have met some of them while fishing and had come to the conclusion the tail is starting to wag the dog. Some have  have come to think they own the place and try and put out restrictions or 'strong' suggestions' about use. 
A farmer leased a field from the Town for hay and one of the 'friends' came to him and told him he couldn't cut hay till late August ---after the birds finished nesting in the grass. 
I could go on with examples of the 'quirky' conservationist things they have said for pages.
Most recently though we had a tornado/big storm in early May leaving lots of trees down. The group had the entire hundreds of acres area closed. Every entrance has been clearly marked since the storm.
Seems  hikers and such are deemed, by the all powerful, to be unable to walk around trees on the trails.
That includes fishermen.
Seems they aren't gonna open it till they clear the down trees -for safety.
With all the signage now months after the storm it is questionable if the place will even get a State stocking next season- It stopped this May.
Big brother watching out for us 'no common sense' idiots.
Have read about similar things in other States- too bad.
Self styled conservationist big brothers are NOT our friends. The 'swamp' isn't just in DC.
 
 
 
 

Have read things from guys in other states where the conservatory is viewed as OK-NOT FROM MY SEAT.
Every piece of land they pickup around here  is immediately posted no hunting or fishing- --hikers welcome.
Have lost some great fishing streams to them.
Another bunch of snowflake, self styled, anti sportsman so called  conservationists.
Watch their signage too- they commonly post way over their actual acreage.
One state Forrest I used to hunt had them take an adjoining property and they posted a parallel Forrest trail quite some distance from their line.
Thinking about it those signs you mentioned might not be in accordance with the deal- these people are  anti  IMHO and capable of anything therein.
Around here its mostly put and take fishing -so when they post the fishing is over with. That said I had a few where some natives were mixed in but --NO.
I hate antis-----------
If I was younger I could easily for see becoming and Indian again- just out there unseen and unheard  doing my thing.
My hard hunting/fishing cousin - a retired Warden- always says we are the last generation to be able do the things we do.
 
 

Leader of that 'friends' group here told me once while I was trying to fish that they were gonna cut out all the deadfall in the stream so' the stream could flow naturally".
I went nuts and told them of the benefit of logs and debris in the waters slowing the flow and keeping the stream from becoming a gutted out sluice, also making places for ducks and deep holes and shade for the fish in warm weather.
Told them in no uncertain terms THAT the debris and fallen trees were normal - not what these 'all knowing-thought it up all by myself- 'conservationists' think.
That was a couple of years back- they didn't do it. Will hope they don't during this idiocy they are doing now.
I sure hate busybodys who got all the answers to things nobodys asking about.

Every organization-at some point- gets a bit hijacked by some who seem to be interested in themselves- just human nature and likely not intended to be nefarious. They have  a particular point of view that isn't what someone elses may be.
That don't make it right.
EX-a golf course moves up t-boxes of women or seniors so as to improve play times- a bunch of 'regulars' -all with low handicaps- complain.
Why?? ( a real example)
The new boxes will improve the scores for some-makes them more competitive with the low handicappers- sooo -complaints that have nothing to do with scores but the 'beauty' of the course and 'expense' of the new closer boxes- as well as having to possibly print new cards.
Real concerns -yes- but not the real issue for the complainers.
Deflect-deflect
Have seen a bow club or two do similar things wherein the only ones who are allowed to be in certain places open for bow- must be clubbies to apply-
Not for the club, but to guarantee a certain level of competence and safety-( guess the rest of us are bumbling idiots)
Deflect -deflect`

I belong to the second oldest chartered sportsman's club in NYS.  We lease a couple of large tracts of private and posted land in the central Tug Hill, and some smaller plots south of the Northern zone line where does can be taken.  We also own a nice parcel with clubhouse and grounds.  Over my time in the club, I have helped financially to the tune of over $8000, in dues and workday fines when I was working and on call 24/7.  We do participate in some public activities, generally things like the bow tournaments that are valuable practice for hunters and raise funds for the continuance of the club, but also sponsor a kid's ice fishing derby (when there is ice, LOL), a kid's trout derby (fish from anywhere on the Tug Hill qualify), bow hunter and hunter education classes, etc, and we cooperate with the Tug Hill Snowmobile groups in agreeing when the landowners agree to allow public use of the roads for snowmobiling in the winter.  We also pay the taxes on the large tracts for the landowners, and while this does not benefit hunters who are not members of the club, (except when deer leave the relative sanctuary of the club lands, as TH deer do when the snow starts to fly), some major developments that may have taken a lot of ground out of forest production and turned it into "second home city" have not happened because of club action, along with other clubs in the area.  We have some very large state tracts adjacent or nearby, but have done nothing other than maintain our lines to hamper their use by the general public (that said, we don't build trails for everyone's use across our land to the public land.)  While there are a lot of people on the hill who resent the club for posting land, virtually every square inch of the Tug Hill that is not public land is posted, and has been for the last hundred plus years.  While I was never a big fan of clubs in my socialist youth, as I began to understand reality, I began to understand that the lease was one component of a landowner's capability to make his land provide return on investment, and without ROI, the land might get clear cut and abandoned, which is what happened to the 'dacks, and as the public lands I frequent were getting more and more crowded, and in many cases abused by the less educated or more careless newcomers to the outdoors, the club offered me a place to camp and fish, and hunt if I got back into it, without the worry that I might drive 200 miles up to the mountains and find all the campsites full where we planned to go (and this nearly happened to us once on a Labor Day weekend, the Rangers actually closed the gates to the Moose River Plains because it was full.)  The Club has been a valuable addition to my options, and the club has contributed greatly to the outdoor sports in Central New York, and now that I am retired, I donate a lot more time to keeping it going.  So I can see the other side of clubs.

Probably the most exclusive club around right now is DSR, $900 per year dues, or $70-80 per day!  Of course, ya could rub elbows wit' the Chartist!

Not much work getting done as I'm loading up for some fun starting tomorrow on this day of my labor holiday weekend.
Son, grandson and friend will be relaxing on a recon at deer camp to tend to things and put cameras out. Fires will be built, stories will be told, good food cooked , loud music played, shots fired and hopefully some work done but it's always minimal.
I'm sure they will bring an arsenal, you may notice on the back atv my weapon of choice is a daisy red rider 😁
Enjoy your fun stuff this weekend, I'm outta internet range

r3g3 are you saying well intended organizations are being overpowered by selfserving cliques? Whose only agenda is to benefit for the chosen few?


HT have a great time this weekend. When ya get back into internet range look for a pic of my new All Terrain Vehicle along with my new camping buddy.

Guess will be up with a friend and perhaps one of my Sons mid Oct. Gonna try a late Sept trip myself too.
Chompin at the bit.

I thought it was kind of odd that DSR posted no report for yesterday.  750 cfs is up, but should not totally curtail fishing, unless of course it has all been sight and line placement for those early passholders!

Sometimes they skip a year, especially if the flowers get burnt by the frost. The big one in our pasture (really two really close together) skips every third or fourth year

Long term weather- as of now-isn't all that encouraging for cooling waters.

Read a blog or two where others have also been seeing deads.
Typical for the few poor scouts running too early.